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Title: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: captain_nintendo on June 01, 2006, 06:34:23 AM
So are you going to fork out the big bucks to be the first to own a PS3 on your block, or are you going to try and profit from the launch of this console?



Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on June 01, 2006, 09:16:32 AM
Hell no


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on June 01, 2006, 09:55:18 AM
I voted no. I'm not willing to drop any money on a deposit for something that expensive which has a significant risk of turning into a total flop. Now I hear that there's no dual shock function on the controller?

I realize that profits can be made, though. So if you know you can get a buyer quickly and make a significant premium on it (i.e.$200+) it may be worth your while.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on June 01, 2006, 11:05:11 AM
Nope, I'm just gonna get a eighty dollar video card and be set for quite some time.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on June 01, 2006, 11:43:35 AM
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Nope, I'm just gonna get a eighty dollar video card and be set for quite some time.


Now you can be caught up with the consoles and finally be able to play Hitman: Blood Money!  |D


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on June 01, 2006, 01:22:18 PM
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play Hitman: Blood Money!  |D


Exactly.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: shaggy on June 01, 2006, 03:59:06 PM
What a ridiculose price or however you spell it.  I'm going to frcikin' resell one, though, for those jackholes who need to have it and waste there money for an already over priced piece of shit.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Pop Culture Portal on June 01, 2006, 04:13:59 PM
I don't have that kinda scratch...kinda reminds me of when the 3DO debuted at about $700 (I think).  Those of us working in the game stores back then could smell eventual death in the air for the 3DO not only for its stupid launch price, but for eventually not living up to the hype surrounding it BEFORE it debuted...I think I smell a repeat...or maybe that's just me. :-/


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on June 01, 2006, 07:05:18 PM
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I don't have that kinda scratch...kinda reminds me of when the 3DO debuted at about $700 (I think).  Those of us working in the game stores back then could smell eventual death in the air for the 3DO not only for its stupid launch price, but for eventually not living up to the hype surrounding it BEFORE it debuted...I think I smell a repeat...or maybe that's just me. :-/


Nope, it's not just you. 3DO came to mind as soon as I heard $600. The only thing that may save the PS3 is that it has Sony backing it.



Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Izret101 on June 01, 2006, 07:58:37 PM
I said yes for resell.

Who knows maybe there are stupid people out there who will want this thing buggy and expensive as hell just to have it first.

Hopefully sony sends a short shipment :)


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on June 02, 2006, 04:22:51 AM
I'll probably pick it up when the price drops to $150...which means I'm probably waiting until somewhere around 2010 or 2011.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Hydrobond on June 02, 2006, 05:08:58 AM
Wow.  I figured at least 1 person would want to buy one...

Prolly wont get any of the next gen systems.  If I do, its going to be the Wii.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on June 02, 2006, 07:42:54 AM
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I don't have that kinda scratch...kinda reminds me of when the 3DO debuted at about $700 (I think).  Those of us working in the game stores back then could smell eventual death in the air for the 3DO not only for its stupid launch price, but for eventually not living up to the hype surrounding it BEFORE it debuted...I think I smell a repeat...or maybe that's just me. :-/


I agree. I hope it does poorly just to knock Sony off their high horse some.

I might reserve one just incase they are hard to get at launch. I will then Ebay it.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: shaggy on June 02, 2006, 09:01:54 AM
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Wow.  I figured at least 1 person would want to buy one...

Prolly wont get any of the next gen systems.  If I do, its going to be the Wii.


With a price that high who can frickin' afford it?  Hell no!


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: shaggy on June 02, 2006, 09:02:43 AM
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I agree. I hope it does poorly just to knock Sony off their high horse some.

I might reserve one just incase they are hard to get at launch. I will then Ebay it.


I also hope it does poorly to knock Sony off of their high horse.  Damn bastards!


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Necrosaro420 on June 04, 2006, 07:55:15 AM
No way....I think Sony's ego is now showing with the pricing.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: captain_nintendo on June 05, 2006, 05:56:29 AM
18 total votes and nobody is buying one for themselves!?  :o



Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on June 05, 2006, 07:18:58 AM
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18 total votes and nobody is buying one for themselves!?  :o



3 words: Six...hundred...dollars!


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on June 05, 2006, 07:21:19 AM
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18 total votes and nobody is buying one for themselves!?  :o



Thats awesome!


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: TraderJake on June 05, 2006, 08:42:58 AM
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3 words: Six...hundred...dollars!


:rofl:


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: captain_nintendo on June 05, 2006, 10:13:52 AM
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3 words: Six...hundred...dollars!



But you can get the lesser one for 500 right
::)  LMAO.

Seriously though. If I had enough money to spend and didn't care at all about cost, I would buy one. I am sure it will be an amazing machine.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on June 05, 2006, 10:24:12 AM
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Seriously though. If I had enough money to spend and didn't care at all about cost, I would buy one. I am sure it will be an amazing machine.


Even if money wasn't an issue I don't think I would.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on June 05, 2006, 01:04:43 PM
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But you can get the lesser one for 500 right
::)  LMAO.

Seriously though. If I had enough money to spend and didn't care at all about cost, I would buy one. I am sure it will be an amazing machine.


Even in the best case scenario that it IS an "amazing machine",  I can still think of many better uses of $600. And realistically, it's more like $700 because who's going to buy the system and not buy at least 1 game for it...and let's not forget the sales tax?

It's just too much.






Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Rejinx on June 05, 2006, 06:36:56 PM
Christmas 2007 for me.  I always wait a year.  The price will most likely go down some by then and the games will be getting much better by then.  It always takes a year for the games to really start utilizing a new peice of hardware.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on June 05, 2006, 08:07:20 PM
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Christmas 2007 for me.  I always wait a year.  The price will most likely go down some by then and the games will be getting much better by then.  It always takes a year for the games to really start utilizing a new peice of hardware.


I'm not so sure that 2007 will be early enough for a price drop on the PS3...and even if they did drop it $100 to a $500 price, by then 360 will be down to about $300 and Wii to $150 or so.

I agree that the game quality will likely be on the upswing after the console's been out a year, but imo that still won't be good enough for me...I'm still thinking at least 2010 before I get one.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Antimind on June 06, 2006, 07:57:23 AM
Hell no here. If we had the money to buy one to resell we'd prolly do it but otherwise no way. Too expensive and nothing worth mentioning being released for it.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on June 06, 2006, 04:26:26 PM
I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on June 06, 2006, 05:13:34 PM
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I'm just gonna keep my mouth shut.


Because it is raw?


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: tholly on June 27, 2006, 02:18:25 PM
Yup, I am preordering one as soon as possible....as well as the Wii.....


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on June 27, 2006, 03:14:28 PM
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Yup, I am preordering one as soon as possible....as well as the Wii.....


Damn Mr. Money


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: tholly on June 27, 2006, 07:32:06 PM
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Damn Mr. Money


I wish.....and my wallet wishes I wasn't addicted to having the newest video game stuff as soon as possible....


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: donkeykong1 on June 29, 2006, 10:37:08 AM
I will but as many as I can get my hands on. Then I will sell all but one. That one I keep would have come out to free, because of the profits I would make from the others. So far I have 2 on preorder and going for more soon.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Alabama-Shrimp on June 30, 2006, 12:20:02 PM
Well we wont have a choice in England its the bigger expensive one where getting at arounf £500 at that much i think i'll wait a long time before i get one, Espically after borrowing an Xbox 360 this week and so far im not impressed it dosent do anything my PC cant.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Speedy_NES on June 30, 2006, 12:24:19 PM
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Espically after borrowing an Xbox 360 this week and so far im not impressed it dosent do anything my PC cant.

I agree that PCs are generally better in a lot of ways, but one thing that a PC can't compete against is splitscreen multiplayer fun! ;)


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: TraderJake on June 30, 2006, 07:29:23 PM
And you all thought the Wii was an awesome name.

According to Kotaku Sony has filed a patent for their PS3 controller. It's name...

P oo S

or poos. Really It should be P(infinity symbol)S, but I think all cynics and haters of Sony would much rather it be called poos. I can see the marketing possibilities already:

"Dearest, will you not come and play with my poos?"
"I play with my poos all day long!"
"POOOOOOOOOSSSS!"

Personally, I am humored, what is up with Japan and weird names? Now I can play with my Wii and follow that up with some poos flinging! Thank God for that motion sensing capabily Sony, now I can fling my poos! Too bad I am not buying a PS3. Perhaps Sony erred and put the infinity symbol in when they meant just to put in an O. Poos? Nah, PoS fits much better.


http://www.kotaku.com/gaming/p-oo-s/ps3-controller-is-a-poos-184547.php


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on June 30, 2006, 07:43:47 PM
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Well we wont have a choice in England its the bigger expensive one where getting at arounf £500 at that much i think i'll wait a long time before i get one, Espically after borrowing an Xbox 360 this week and so far im not impressed it dosent do anything my PC cant.


Well I'm fairly certain PS3 will be a little more impressive than the 360. At least it better be.

But I agree, at this point with consoles it's like, ooo look, their clothes are moving and they're shiny because they're sweaty.

I am not impressed. The only way I'll get a ps3 early on is if I hear it's a God monster machine.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: RetroYoungen on June 30, 2006, 09:45:43 PM
Chuck up another vote for "not impressed."  All of the graphics are getting to the point that they all look too much alike for me, and they're all capable of nearly the same things (save the HD-DVD and Blu-Ray crap).  I haven't seen anything that really grabs my attention, and they're "innovative" controller (covered in my Majestic Thoughts entry on my Blogger site ::/plug:: ), I'm not planning to buy any time soon.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: incubus421 on June 30, 2006, 09:53:45 PM
This year is all about the Wii.  Cheap, great, and I have high hopes for it.  Not to mention it's starting lineup kicks the shit out of the PS3's (in my opinion of course, because it depends on what you're into).


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: David_J. on June 30, 2006, 09:56:58 PM
I could buy a nice project car or a winter beater for that much on ebay, or even locally.

That and I have no intrest in this gen, or next gen gaming.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on July 05, 2006, 09:43:35 AM
I will but as many as I can get my hands on. Then I will sell all but one. That one I keep would have come out to free, because of the profits I would make from the others. So far I have 2 on preorder and going for more soon.

Last holiday season, the premium you could get for a 360 on Ebay was so high partly because there was no other next gen system on the market. This Christmas, if the Wii comes in at it's 199-249 price point, due to the competition it will provide against the PS3 it may be a lot tougher to sell a PS3 at premium pricing (i.e. $100+ profit).

I'd be very wary of investing too much in PS3 consoles.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on July 05, 2006, 12:56:30 PM
I have been talking to people at game stores and they say everyone that is getting a PS3 it is for resale. Might be a flood of them on Ebay.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on July 05, 2006, 04:03:15 PM
Yup. Wouldn't surprise me.

And where there's a glut of sellers, the market favors the buyer. A lot of people that are planning on being able to resell just may get stuck with a PS3 that they really didn't want at the $600 price tag.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on July 05, 2006, 06:09:27 PM
That would be awesome if they didnt even reach 600 on Ebay. Doubt that will happen but it would be funny.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on July 07, 2006, 07:23:18 AM
Yeah. But most people trying to sell would likely set the minimum bid to $599.99 with around $40+ shipping (to recoup taxes).

It will be very interesting to see how that buy-resell strategy plays out this time around.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: TraderJake on July 13, 2006, 06:30:53 PM
If I told you I liked Sony I'd be lying.

IBM Lucky to get 10-20% Yield on the Cell Processor (http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3295)

Now perhaps I am really, really evil, but I surely hope that this inability to get a high yield causes manufacturing problems and shortages, and bodes terrible for the PS3. With all the stealing of ideas (although they "didn't"), I hope this system does terrible.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on July 27, 2006, 07:38:42 AM
I'm surprised that it's almost August and there's been no sign of pre-orders being taken on either the PS3 or the Wii.

I'll bet that as soon as everyone has their Madden '07s they'll start taking reservations.

Just my $.02.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: TraderJake on August 19, 2006, 01:49:45 PM
I don't have the link, but in an interview with Gamespot Kaz Hirai (Sony Head Honcho) amongst other things mentioned that the PS3 has yet to start production. Kinda makes you wonder whether or not the damn thing will actually launch on November 17, and if it does will it launch with more than 100000 systems available.

EDIT: here's the link
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6156046.html?tag=latestnews;title;0


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on August 19, 2006, 06:11:47 PM
From what the article says, to give the benefit of the doubt, approx 700K or so PS3s will be available on launch day. The fact that they haven't even started production on them definitely raises a red flag, though.

I still haven't heard ANYBODY say ANYTHING to the fact that this thing will be anywhere NEAR being worth spending $600 on.

And I don't know if this is true, but I've heard that the games will retail for $74.99 each!
 :speechless:


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: TraderJake on August 19, 2006, 06:13:32 PM
From what the article says, to give the benefit of the doubt, approx 700K or so PS3s will be available on launch day.


Would it surprise you if those 700K PS3's were distributed throughout all regions?


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: phoenix1967 on August 19, 2006, 08:51:50 PM
Watching the coverage from E3 forward on the 3 major consoles, I'm thoroughly surprised by the lack of perspective that Sony has on the gaming audience. Nintendo and MS are at least cognizant and wary enough to respect that their brand names, impressive as they are, are not enough to sell a system. Sony seems to have lost that grasp.

To answer the question, nothing Sony would do at this point would surprise me. They have proven to me that they are becoming more arrogant about the console market as a whole and are increasingly becoming more and more out of touch with their consumers. From all indications, PS3 sounds like it is going to be a P.O.S.





Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on August 19, 2006, 10:25:26 PM

I still haven't heard ANYBODY say ANYTHING to the fact that this thing will be anywhere NEAR being worth spending $600 on.


Jesus Christ phoenix would you look at the damn thing?

First of all its specs are far and above all competition. Secondly, if Blu-Ray is anything to shake a leg at then SONY will sell lots of PS3s to people who are looking to buy Blu-Ray players because PS3 is 300$ cheaper then all the other Blu-Ray players out there. Also, to just believe that everybody who was happy with SONY's other systems will just switch systems is, I believe, ludicrous. I know I have been happy with both PSX and PS2 and if I continue to game on consoles I will choose PS3 because SONY is the company I know and trust. And if it means I have to save my money for a week longer then so be it.

If Johnny wants a PS3 Johnny will get a PS3, if Johnny wants a Wii he's a homosexual... I mean, Johnny will get a Wii.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: TraderJake on August 19, 2006, 10:33:25 PM
Apparently you forgot about this amazing video:

http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=3562.0


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on August 20, 2006, 12:08:11 AM
First of all its specs are far and above all competition. Secondly, if Blu-Ray is anything to shake a leg at then SONY will sell lots of PS3s to people who are looking to buy Blu-Ray players because PS3 is 300$ cheaper then all the other Blu-Ray players out there.

I disagree with that statement. A videophile (spelling?) are the people that are going to buy a Blu Ray player right now. And I dont think they would buy a PS3 for that. I know I wouldn't.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on August 20, 2006, 12:39:14 AM
Why not? What if you are gamer videophile?


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: James on August 20, 2006, 04:25:46 AM
And I don't know if this is true, but I've heard that the games will retail for $74.99 each!
 :speechless:
Well Xbox 360 games are $90 over here, so there wouldn't be much difference. Launch titles have come down in price, so I don't see why that wouldn't happen with the PS3.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on August 20, 2006, 01:02:44 PM
Because for some reason the lines have been drawn.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on August 20, 2006, 03:07:50 PM
Why not? What if you are gamer videophile?

I still dont think you w/uld. I have never once used my PS2 or Xbox as a DVD player.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on August 20, 2006, 03:14:42 PM
Not even to save 300$? I'd jump on the sucker.

I use my PS2 as a dvd player all the time, no reason to have two DVD players hooked up. Besides I kinda like using the controller as a remote, can't lose it.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: TraderJake on August 20, 2006, 03:27:53 PM
Hmm... there is a rumor going around that Aussie ads for the PS3 advertise the PS3 as a revolutionary game console that is ALWAYS-ON (Connected to the Internet)

Hmm... Let's recap:

Original PS1 controller looks strangely similar to the SNES controller
PSP Launches a WarioWare Clone
PS3 controller ends up with Motion Sensing abilities and no developers knew about it.
PS3 is always connected to the internet

Sony(R). What's wrong with stealing? We do it all the time.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: captain_nintendo on August 20, 2006, 03:37:57 PM
Wow! This thread is hilarious :laugh:

I guess we'll find out when the system launches. I think Sont is going to do fine, but they wont have a death grip on the gaming industry like they have had.



Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: TraderJake on August 20, 2006, 03:46:35 PM
Well, the highly respectable gaming website SPONG (HA!) reports that there will be a PS3 announcement tomorrow that will be out of the blue. Maybe we will know something tomorrow, but then SPONG reported it, so god knows given that SPONG is a horrible media outlet.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on August 20, 2006, 05:16:16 PM

PS3 controller ends up with Motion Sensing abilities and no developers knew about it.


Sony(R). What's wrong with stealing? We do it all the time.

The controller is not EXACTLY the same. Wii is full motion and PS3 is just tilt (I think). Personlly I think motion sensing will be annoying as hell but it's been around, you know those fishing games where you have the reel and yank it around when you get a bite? Same thing.

I think SONY's releasing their motion sensor thing in response to the Wii, I wouldn't say they stole it, I'd say they had the tech and when they saw Wii had it they released theirs too. I think they are trying to kill the Wii, not steal it.

It's competition, everyone steals, World War II anyone?

Anyways, WTF? If nobody copied each other where would we be? One guy would be sitting in a skyscraper with his computer and the rest of us would be grunting and trying to get the ants out of the hill with our fingers. Ever hear of Micro$oft and how they got started?

Besides, I sure didn't hear SONY say N64 stole 3d graphics.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: captain_nintendo on August 20, 2006, 06:44:24 PM


I think SONY's releasing their motion sensor thing in response to the Wii, I wouldn't say they stole it, I'd say they had the tech and when they saw Wii had it they released theirs too. I think they are trying to kill the Wii, not steal it.




Sure they are doing it in response to the Wii. Why not copy Nintendo? Nintendo kicked Sony's ass in the handheld department, so Sony is probably thinking they need to steal....er, I mean copy a Nintendo idea to keep up (extreme sarcasm used due to total fanboyism detected) :P


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on August 20, 2006, 07:11:38 PM
Hell I'm not a SONY fanboy really I'm just trying to level the playing field here.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on August 20, 2006, 09:28:40 PM
Not even to save 300$? I'd jump on the sucker.

Nope but then again I dont want a Blu Ray player at all or an HD-DVD player (is there such a thing yet?). I will get teh one that wins out down the road when a player is 100-300 dollars.

Also I ont buy the HD-DVD attachment for the Xbox 360 either.


Title: Re: Buying a PS3 at launch?
Post by: Tynstar on August 20, 2006, 09:30:51 PM
The controller is not EXACTLY the same. Wii is full motion and PS3 is just tilt (I think).

Well if thats the case they still stole it from Nintendo.

http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-069-S-01720-A&   ;) :P