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Title: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on January 20, 2006, 07:32:22 AM
Kratos on HardcoreGaming.org posted this and i  freaked out about it last night.
Understandably.

I am looking foreward to this more than any game i have heard of coming out in 2k6 so far.

Hopefully they don't change the fighting system too much though...
I don't want it to be like others where you have to memorize a million move combo and you can only be good with one character after massive amounts of usage.

In anycase check it out:
http://www.joystiq.com/2006/01/13/mortal-kombat-armageddon-to-feature-every-kombatant-ever/

I have been able to read up a bit on forums and some people seem to think this is going to be the final installment in the Mortal Kombat series.

They had all better shut their blaspheming mouths.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: captain_nintendo on January 20, 2006, 07:50:49 AM
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this is going to be the final installment in the Mortal Kombat series.




We can only hope  ;)        :P


:laugh:


Seriously though. Every Kombatant ever.......

Sounds cool.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on January 20, 2006, 07:53:38 AM
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I have been able to read up a bit on forums and some people seem to think this is going to be the final installment in the Mortal Kombat series.


Why would they kill a cash cow?

Then again it is called Armageddon and has all the fighters from the series in it.  :-/

Why no Motaro?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Sauza12 on January 20, 2006, 08:46:20 AM
Wow, if all that comes to fruition I might have to break my self imposed ban on buying fighting games brand new.

I wonder if the character list includes the different forms of characters (ie human and robot Smoke)?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Arrrhalomynn on January 20, 2006, 09:12:44 AM
I'd be interested if it were 2D. 3D Mortal Kombat never felt like Mortal Kombat to me.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: phoenix1967 on January 20, 2006, 10:40:46 AM
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Why would they kill a cash cow?

Then again it is called Armageddon and has all the fighters from the series in it.  :-/

Why no Motaro?


From what some of the posts on the link have mentioned, it would be too difficult to include him due to the way he is drawn.

Hopefully, with so many characters they'll also be able to find a way to make them more balanced with regard to being able to pull off their special moves (i.e. Baraka).

I would definitely get it, though. It sounds very impressive. And the ability to create your own Kombatant clinches it.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on January 20, 2006, 11:18:26 AM
Is Shaolin Monks worth 19.99?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on January 20, 2006, 11:25:15 AM
I just finished reading the game informer article for it.

They want to use this game to tie up all the loose end of all the characters.

The way it is worded it sounds like they are going to end Mortal Kombat for these characters but want to continue the series in another generation with new charcters.
But Boon said "It's can't imagine coming back [in the next generation] and not have a Sub-Zero or Scorpion character, but my feeling is that i would like to introduce as much newness as possible."

He compared this game to turning off Star Wars before the Death Star blew up or Lord of The Rings before the One ring was cast into the fire.

And they probably won't work in Motaro because he is the only quadraped character. It would be nearly impossible to integrate him as a useful character since. Unless he was broken and far to powerful.

As for the cast i have read elsewhere that all the versions of characters are going to be selectable.
Probably as a costume swap.

The cast will be:
Shang Tsung
Scorpion
Sub-Zero
Shinnok
Shujinko
Kai
Kung Lao
Quanj Chi
Reiko
Kabal
Kano
Cyrax
Sonya
Jarek
Stryker
Rain
Ashrah
Sindel
Kitana
Johnny Cage
Lui Kang
Reptile
Baraka
Raiden
Kenshi
Li Mei
Dairou
Sareena
Tanya
Darrius
Noob Saibot(they are still keeping the Saibot out of his name apparently)
Smoke
Nightwolf
Ermac
Movado
Kobra
Kira
Fujin
Frost
Havik
Jax
Bo Rai Cho
Hotaru
Drahmin
Mokap
Mileena
Jade
Sektor
Hsu Hao
Nitara
Onaga(The Dragon King)
Kintaro
Shao Kahn
Goro
Sheeva
Moloch
Blaze


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on January 20, 2006, 11:26:30 AM
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Is Shaolin Monks worth 19.99?


Yes.
I saw somewhere it got rated as the unexpected greatest game of the year.

And if you can get me a copy for 20$ i would <3 you.

So long as you don't mind holding onto it till i get 20$...
lol


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: yap on January 20, 2006, 12:15:16 PM
I don't think it would be hard to make the best Mortal Kombat game, since the Mortal Kombat franchise has always sucked.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on January 20, 2006, 12:19:36 PM
Boooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!
You are dead to me.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on January 20, 2006, 12:30:05 PM
I'll have to agree with yap and be dead to you too. Never did like the MK's, I think by the time I really played any MK's I had played Tekken.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on January 20, 2006, 12:42:55 PM
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I don't think it would be hard to make the best Mortal Kombat game, since the Mortal Kombat franchise has always sucked.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: yap on January 20, 2006, 01:26:56 PM
Well, hey, Mortal Kombat franchise may suck but it was always better than the Killer Instinct franchise.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on January 20, 2006, 01:39:48 PM
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Well, hey, Mortal Kombat franchise may suck but it was always better than the Killer Instinct franchise.


Wasn't there just one Killer Instinct game? If so that doesn't make a franchise just a game.  ;)


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on January 20, 2006, 02:02:45 PM
Nope Killer Instinct on SNES and Killer Instinct Gold on N64.

War Gods was a pretty bad fighter...

But back to the MK: Armageddon awesomeness.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on January 20, 2006, 07:51:37 PM
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Nope Killer Instinct on SNES and Killer Instinct Gold on N64.

War Gods was a pretty bad fighter...

But back to the MK: Armageddon awesomeness.


I knew there was Gold but I though it was the same as Killer Instinct but with extra and better graphics.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: yap on January 20, 2006, 08:10:55 PM
There was also Killer Instinct 2 in the arcades at least.

Mortal Kombat fans should be happy for any Killer Instinct incarnation, as it makes Mortal Kombat look better.

I did like Atari's fighter from the same era, Primal Rage.  It was a little more balanced than Mortal Kombat, plus you could do the Golden Shower as a fatality.

No 2d fighter could ever come close to the Capcom fighters, followed by the SNK fighters.  Everything else just sucks.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Odonadon on January 21, 2006, 09:38:55 AM
To me, MK II was the closest a fighting game has been to perfection.  I'd love if they could bring that "feel" back again.  And I have to agree - MK 3D just doesn't work.

OD


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on January 21, 2006, 11:40:45 AM
That was touched upon in the article.
MK in 3D isn't the same on one respect because they eliminated the aerial combat almost completely.

They are bringing that back and its going to not suck.

I agree though MK in 2D was amazing.
MK in 3D for me was cool but it definately lost alot of charm.

Hopefully they won't lose all the MK charm by killing off all the current story and characters and starting anew....
:'(


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on May 10, 2006, 12:51:09 PM
The image i have been waiting for:
http://www.mkarmageddon.com/mka_wallpaper01.jpg

BTW this is my new desktop probably forever.

The site has some good content up.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on May 10, 2006, 12:57:29 PM
Thats a cool picture. I don't  think I can name a thrid of those characters. Like the big monster made of flames.

In the back row I know Goru (spelling?) and Shoa Khan (spelling?). The rest no clue.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on May 10, 2006, 01:10:12 PM
Shao Kah and Goro and the huge flame guy is Blaze.

His origins are from MK 2 were he can be seen fighting Hornbuckle in the background of The Pit II.
Long story short Hornbuckle was never made a character and his story has yet to be expanded upon beyond fan fic.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on May 10, 2006, 01:33:32 PM
2 Goro 's?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on May 10, 2006, 01:58:18 PM
The other goro like guy is Kintaro
Also first from MK II.

The female "goro" is Sheeva from first in MK3 i believe.
I know she was in UMK3


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on May 10, 2006, 03:10:14 PM
I dont see Mintaro in that pic.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Shimra on May 11, 2006, 01:28:27 PM
So anyway, I need a good fighting game, but the stores around me only have crap like Mortal Kombat. I mean, I've been searching for Guilty Gear X2 for a while now.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on May 11, 2006, 01:41:32 PM
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So anyway, I need a good fighting game, but the stores around me only have crap like Mortal Kombat. I mean, I've been searching for Guilty Gear X2 for a while now.


:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I have Guilty Gear X2 for the Xbox and it actually is pretty fun.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on May 11, 2006, 03:50:35 PM
If this game has Snake in it I'll buy it.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Shimra on May 11, 2006, 04:41:59 PM
I was serious when I said I've been searching for Guilty Gear X2. I want that game so bad.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on May 11, 2006, 05:31:28 PM
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If this game has Snake in it I'll buy it.



Super Smash Bros. Brawl has Snake.
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I was serious when I said I've been searching for Guilty Gear X2. I want that game so bad.


I have the one for Xbox.
It is pretty good.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on May 11, 2006, 05:54:07 PM
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Super Smash Bros. Brawl has Snake.


Really? I didn't know that. :P ;)


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 13, 2006, 11:11:20 PM
Here's some of the latest info from IGN:

http://xbox.ign.com/articles/732/732627p1.html

The kart game alone looks hilarious!

Also, good news that they're going to do a MK game for next gen systems!



Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on September 14, 2006, 09:58:18 PM
Yea armageddon was supposed to only be available on PS2 and Xbox but it was later announced that a Wii version was in the works.

Originally Ed Boon said something like "they would end the old franchise on the old consoles".
Liar.

Also the PS2 version is getting a Limited Edition version so i may end up swapping my reserve from the Xbox to the PS2 LE one.

Still have to think a bit about it.
Since i will probably be able to pick it up in a few months after release on eBay for like 30 bucks anyways....


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on September 14, 2006, 10:02:51 PM
Are limited edition games realy ever limited?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on September 14, 2006, 10:13:16 PM
Eh sometimes.

But they do come with some pretty sweet shit most of the time.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: David_J. on September 14, 2006, 10:50:05 PM
So, no Motaro?

The *only* MK I really liked was Trilogy. Anyone have a copy for the Saturn for sale?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 15, 2006, 09:28:56 AM
Still have to think a bit about it.
Since i will probably be able to pick it up in a few months after release on eBay for like 30 bucks anyways....

Yea. It kind of pisses me off that the MK franchise doesn't hold it's value long after its release. When I bought MK:Deception at release, I was upset to see it drop to $29.99 only a few months later.  It's value drops at the rate of a sports title!

So while I'm looking forward to Armageddon, I'm not going to get it day 1.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on September 15, 2006, 02:14:13 PM
I am getting it day 1.

Its only a 40$ release.

I will hold out for the "LE" version though.

If i am lucky it will turn out like the Deception Limited Editions. Some of those are harder to come by than others but still not that uncommon.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 15, 2006, 07:10:08 PM
I hear that the Raiden MKDeception is the toughest one to find.

$40 on MK:Armageddon...hmmm... ^-^


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on September 17, 2006, 01:06:14 PM
Yea Raiden is hard to get.
My copy is incomplete, even though the seller told me it had the outter case and metal card and what not.

The Armageddon limited edition is going to be a Game Crazy exclusive.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Mike Leon on September 18, 2006, 08:42:31 AM
This does look pretty cool. I'll have to check it out.

Wasn't there just one Killer Instinct game? If so that doesn't make a franchise just a game.  ;)
There are 2 Killer Instinct games, 3 if you count KI Gold, but I'm pretty sure it's identical to KI2.
And while MK has always been more popular, KI has much more depth. I've always felt it to be a far superior game. It's funky how it bombed as badly as it did.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 18, 2006, 09:42:17 AM
Yea Raiden is hard to get.
My copy is incomplete, even though the seller told me it had the outter case and metal card and what not.

The Armageddon limited edition is going to be a Game Crazy exclusive.

Good to know. Thanks. PS2 only or Xbox also?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: djbeatmongrel on September 18, 2006, 03:19:55 PM
the day i think mortal kombat is a good series is the day capcom, sammy, snk, and namco ceased to ever exist.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: IceBladeX on September 19, 2006, 05:33:12 PM
Isnt saying "Best Mortal Kombat ever" kind of like saying "Best Star Wars prequel ever!" or "Less painful way to die!"?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on September 21, 2006, 07:35:22 PM
You all die now.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: djbeatmongrel on September 22, 2006, 01:14:54 AM
Chalk it up for one more fighter that is better than mortal kombat. KoF 2006 is pure blyss, best 2d-3d transistion yet(KoF maximum impact is close second lol). really it bridges the gaps nicely between 2d and 3d fans alike and for $30 its a steal.  :^D


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 22, 2006, 12:02:35 PM
does KoF have fatalities? how about interactive level design? kan you make your own character like what mk:a is set up do do? how about minigames? any KoF puzzle fighter? kart racer?

all fighters have advantages and disadvantages, but i'm basically a fan of the genre in a general sense and when i hear someone saying how much "mk sucks" or the like, i defend what mk does that the others don't do. sure it's not perfect or as polished as some of the other fighters out there, but it's got a balance of fun gameplay, kool well-animated kharacters that don't look like they've come out of an anime kartoon, and buckets of bloody karnage which many of the others kannot klaim.

and at least mk has made the jump to 3d, unlike the SFII series which keeps repackaging essentially the same game over and over and over....





Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: djbeatmongrel on September 23, 2006, 12:47:37 AM
i really wouldnt care about the mini games, kart racing and puzzle fighting (all ripped from other games, especially the puzzle fighter. that looks exactly like street fighter puzzle series). it all seems like a distraction from the mediocre gameplay (have not played the final mk but if its anything like the others it will receive the same response). i agree fighting games should be fun but mk is just the opposite, the gameplay is weak, animations are weaker, fatalities are a cheesy end "bonus".

and to correct you, street fighter has made a jump to 3d although they were horrible attempts. your are also forgetting sf3 and the alpha series. granted they may be repackaged, the gameplay is solid.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on September 23, 2006, 12:09:17 PM
The only good fighters are Bushido Blade 1 and 2, and Tekken 3.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on September 24, 2006, 10:52:20 AM
Fighters suck


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on September 24, 2006, 10:56:03 PM
Tynstars suck.

This thread isn't about any other fighters but the new MK game.
Take your bullshit to a new thread please.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on September 25, 2006, 12:09:17 AM
Tynstars suck.

This thread isn't about any other fighters but the new MK game.
Take your bullshit to a new thread please.

You can modify the post.

Actually MK is the only fighter series I still buy. I will prolly get the new MK once it is 20-25 bucks.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on September 25, 2006, 06:39:39 AM
It was their friendly warning.

I know the PS2 and Xbox versions are coming out at 40$s.
The PS2 GameCrazy Exclusive is probably 50$s
Wii will probably be 50$s.
60$ if i am wicked unlucky.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 25, 2006, 04:22:09 PM
The one thing that I'm concerned about with MK:A is that from the footage I've seen, they took out the combo-breaker. Which sucks because I like having the option of getting out of a "broken combo" situation.

And now, with all the aerial attacks that they're adding, the casual player is more likely than ever to get cremated against online opponents.

Another problem that I hope they fix is the balance of the characters special moves. The characters with easy special moves (i.e. Baraka, Liu Kang) are often the only ones that seem to get played online while many of the other interesting characters don't get any play at all. It would be great if they could get a "Fiesta" mode for online play where you never knew which character you'd be playing, both players would get a random character. That way, there'd be less skill disparity between those that only play a character like Baraka or Liu Kang and those that play the more complex characters like Mileena, Bo Rai Cho, and the like.

I'm probably going to get the game eventually, but like Tynstar I'll probably wait for the price to drop before doing so. Although I'll admit that could change if the game gets ratings in the 90% or higher...and the create your own character does look like an appealing feature...we'll see.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on September 30, 2006, 09:20:33 AM
Pre orders come with a art cell.

So i will be getting the game, art cell, store display all hopefully day of launch.
I am debating taking the huge window cling off the side of building too..... but i am told that those are stickers?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Shimra on September 30, 2006, 09:47:33 PM
Ironic, this game actually interests me now.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on October 01, 2006, 01:22:54 AM
Just because of an art cell?

Or something that was said earlier?


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on October 04, 2006, 11:22:01 PM
The Art Cells are all over eBay already which seems sketchy to me.

There are a bunch of posters too.
Most of which are obvious fakes.


Fuckshit.

I just found out too that there are multiple Premium Edition covers :-/
I guess i will keep my preorder on the non premium version and hopefuly pick up a lot on eBay with all the variants like i use to see for Deception Kollector's Edition :-/


EDIT:
Strange on mkarmageddon.com they say Gamestop is giving out Art Cells with preorders and GameCrazy is giving away posters with a preorder.

But i am supposed to be getting the art cell with my preorder from GameCrazy... as well as the store display and store poster and any other freebies they get.

Or so i was told. I better that was the only reason i got the MVP card >:-0


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 10, 2006, 03:41:15 PM
Just found out that the xbox version of MK:A doesn't come out until next week...WTF!!!


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on October 10, 2006, 04:26:29 PM
Well i have a few hours to decide if when i go there i try and get an Xbox copy early, if possible or swap my preorder to the PS2 version.

Then i have to take the PS2 from my bro and that opens a whole new world of hassles.

Why can't things ever just work out right?



Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: captain_nintendo on October 10, 2006, 05:21:25 PM
Just found out that the xbox version of MK:A doesn't come out until next week...WTF!!!

Which is why it hasn't been added to the database yet. ;)
It is wierd that the releases would be a week apart ???


Not that I care since I will wait until it drops to 9.99 to pick it up ;)


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on October 10, 2006, 09:06:37 PM
How dare you add a Mortal Kombat title!

Steal my thunder.

Don't you dare add the Xbox or Wii version :-P


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on October 10, 2006, 10:46:00 PM

Don't you dare add the Xbox or Wii version :-P

Already done!


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on October 11, 2006, 03:47:27 PM
I hate you guys.

In anycase i don't have enough gas to drive over to the store and have them tell me they can't give me a copy of the game yet.

I might call them up and find out though...
I really should keep doing homework though.

I am taking a break from math after almost 3 hours of assignments :-/

I only got a 66.7 on one test i took and i still have to take another :-/

I hate math.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Tynstar on October 11, 2006, 05:05:38 PM
I was joking I didn't do any.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: TurboGrafxer AKA DCer on October 14, 2006, 09:10:21 PM
the opening movie to the game is freakin sweet. i will be buying this for the xbox when it drops in price a lil. the only game that i am going to buy on release is the family guy game. got it preordered for xbox. freakin' sweet.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on October 14, 2006, 09:31:46 PM
The movie and commercials for the game are soooooo good.

I can't wait till monday.

Too bad i have school stuff.
So i won't really be able to play till this weekend. :-/


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on October 15, 2006, 11:14:45 PM
You can already pick the game up for 10+$s cheaper on eBay than in stores.

Good news for all of those hoping for a price drop ;)

Good news for me too.
Maybe it won't be a huge pain in the ass to get all the KE versions complete like Deception is turning out to be.


Title: Re: New game = best Mortal Kombat ever?
Post by: Izret101 on October 17, 2006, 11:36:37 PM
Thus far what i have played of the game, only an hour (2 tops), it is pretty sweet.

Konquest is pretty cool thus far.

I have already unlocked the character Meat(whooo only 3 more unlockables).

I beat Arcade with Onaga. I normally beat the game with Scorpion and Sub-Zero first but the ability to play as ANY character i might continue beating arcade with the wicked cool badass characters.

Eh maybe not... i really want to beat thru with
Scorpion, Sub-Zero, Shao Kahn, Goro, the rest of the Ninjas and Cyborgs and Meat to figure out why the hell they gave him a real story line.

lo