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Title: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Izret101 on October 04, 2005, 05:31:19 PM
http://money.cnn.com/2005/09/30/news/international/sony_jesus.reut/index.htm


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: TraderJake on October 04, 2005, 06:12:28 PM
I saw that, and as a Catholic, I in no way find it appalling.

It's funny, but it does suggest arrogance on the part of Sony, as lots of things can be construed from the ad.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Odonadon on October 04, 2005, 07:17:32 PM
I think everyone needs to chill out and stop being offended by symbology of this nature, and a whole bunch of other silly things.  And I mean everyone.

-You won't find a Sun in Canada or US with topless Sunshine girls, whereas other parts of the world you can.
-Swearing and occasionally nudity is not always censored on Canadian prime-time TV
-Video game violence is not real violence.  Get over it.
-If Jesus were alive today I'm sure he'd own a PS2
-Alcohol and pornography are against the law in some parts.  Thankfully not here :)
-Marijuana is legal in some parts, but not others

The entire world is not Chrsitian.  How many Hindu's do you think get offended by an American cartoon (Simpsons) portraying a recurring character voiced by an actor who probably ins't Hindu as such (Apu)?  The answer could be alot, yet nothing has changed.

This is just stupidity.

OD


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Vladimir on October 04, 2005, 07:21:32 PM
XD

That makes me laugh.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Tynstar on October 04, 2005, 07:25:39 PM
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-If Jesus were alive today I'm sure he'd own a PS2


That was one of the funnest thing I have read in a long time.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: NDiddy on October 04, 2005, 09:03:09 PM
(http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1800/ps2side2sj.jpg)


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Arrrhalomynn on October 05, 2005, 12:28:26 AM
(http://www.bakkenes.net/images/uploads/SONY.jpg)

This is it. It doesn't look that offending to me. The guy doesn't like like the way people nowadays like to portray Jesus. It's just some dude with a crown of thorns.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 05, 2005, 04:41:18 AM
Hey Arr, is that the full ad? It looks like it may be cropped.

If you could please post the full ad, that would be great. Doing so would keep everything in context for purposes of the discussion.



Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: captain_nintendo on October 05, 2005, 05:18:17 AM
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(http://img372.imageshack.us/img372/1800/ps2side2sj.jpg)



Damn it .... Why isnt that link working  :P


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: yap on October 05, 2005, 09:02:31 AM
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(http://www.bakkenes.net/images/uploads/SONY.jpg)

This is it. It doesn't look that offending to me. The guy doesn't like like the way people nowadays like to portray Jesus. It's just some dude with a crown of thorns.




No that's not the whole thing.  The bottom of the ad says "Dieci anni di passione" which translates "10 years of passion".  Passion being a play on the suffering and crucifixion of Jesus Christ to Christians.

(http://img.engadget.com/common/images/3060000000047333.JPG?0.05755486164882473)

Taking the whole thing in context, I can see how it's offensive to Catholics/Christians, I can see why they're upset.  There would be bombs exploding right now if the PS3 ad was a depiction of Mohammad with an equal play on words regarding Islam and the PS3.

But as an outsider, I do not understand the ad or what Sony is trying to say by it.  Pretty strange.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: yap on October 05, 2005, 09:08:36 AM
I tried several times to get the image to show in my post, I have no idea what I'm doing wrong, but I think you can click on the link to see the full ad.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 05, 2005, 09:15:09 AM
I was able to open it up. Thanks.



Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 05, 2005, 10:41:15 AM
As far as marketing ploys go, this was a smart move by Sony. By running the ad in Italy (with Rome being the HQ of the Roman Catholic Church) they assure themselves visibility with the crown of thorns ad. Which in turn would lead to the outrage over the imagery. Essentially, Sony now has obtained significant information regarding the Italy demographic and who will notice their advertizing in the future (note to Sony advertizing agency:. Insert new ad *here*, it will get noticed).

So it comes down to:
1. Place cheaply produced and potentially offensive ad *here*.
2. See what happens.
3. If response is significant and negative, apologize.
4. Place expensively produced ad in the exact same place since you know it will succeed at getting a significant audience.





Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: den68 on October 05, 2005, 10:57:33 AM
I'm offended, everyone knows Jesus prefers Nintendo.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: TraderJake on October 05, 2005, 11:53:42 AM
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I'm offended, everyone knows Jesus prefers Nintendo.


Say it, Preacher!


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: yap on October 05, 2005, 12:01:23 PM
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As far as marketing ploys go, this was a smart move by Sony.


Maybe?  The stock market types seem to disagree with you..

http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2005/mft05100306.htm
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Moving from the theological to the practical implications of Sony's snafu, the company couldn't have picked a worse time to offend its customers. Sony has already conceded a six-month head start to competitor Microsoft (Nasdaq: MSFT) in the upcoming market-share battle for the next generation of game consoles. Microsoft's Xbox 360 is expected to debut this fall; Sony's PlayStation 3 will not arrive until the spring of 2006.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on October 05, 2005, 12:13:15 PM
http://basementofdoom.net/photoshops/passionforps2.jpg

From the official site of The Evil Leon's basement.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: TraderJake on October 05, 2005, 12:26:42 PM
^Too bad he moved out of his basement. I bet they painted it pink.

I'd buy that game.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on October 05, 2005, 12:47:27 PM
I kinda figured he'd just kinda slink into the basement of the new place.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: phoenix1967 on October 05, 2005, 12:49:01 PM
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Maybe?  The stock market types seem to disagree with you..

http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2005/mft05100306.htm


"Stock market types" can blow it out their butts.

Yes. The initial shock value may cause a temporary dip in the stock price. But this is Sony we're talking about. In a week all will be forgotten and the stock will bounce back.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Shimra on October 05, 2005, 01:17:36 PM
Umm i was offended in all honestly. Also, that is completely arrogant of Sony.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: yap on October 05, 2005, 01:30:20 PM
I think I'm still going to wait for the Revolution.  This ad hasn't made me want to get a PS3.


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Odonadon on October 05, 2005, 05:52:42 PM
K, I have never been able to understand that stupid YaBB icon for "quote".  Anyway....

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A Fool has to wonder how many gamers of the Catholic faith will wait around to buy a PlayStation after being dissed by Sony


Give me a fucking break.  Talk about a completely biased article.  Did you see anyone getting "dissed by Sony"?

OD


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Izret101 on October 06, 2005, 03:31:47 PM
OD i just wanted to say i agree 100% with what your saying about people being offended by stupid stuff like that.

The generic population is just to easily pissed off about "offensive" material

Fuck political correctness


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: CatchFiveBats on October 06, 2005, 04:21:05 PM
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Fuck political correctness


Thank you.  We should put that in every newspaper and on every station in the country, because seriously, people just need to learn to shut the hell up and deal with it.

- CFB


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: NDiddy on October 06, 2005, 08:02:19 PM
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Thank you.  We should put that in every newspaper and on every station in the country, because seriously, people just need to learn to shut the hell up and deal with it.

- CFB



You both speak the truth!


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Tynstar on October 07, 2005, 09:48:52 AM
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I'm offended, everyone knows Jesus prefers Nintendo.


Wrong Jesus cried when the Dreamcast was killed.

JESUS LOVES SEGA!!!!!

SATAN RUNS SONY!!!!!


Title: Re: Sony Jesus ads pulled in Italy
Post by: Mike Leon on October 15, 2005, 05:04:00 PM
I wasn't sure about buying a next-gen system, but now that I've seen that ad I'm definitely getting a PS3!