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Title: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: ganonbanned on July 12, 2006, 12:45:12 PM
i love my NES.  i hate the term oldskool nintendo though.  a few months ago at school i was wearing a pac-man shirt and some random queer walks up to me and says "hey i remember that pac-man game.  i had it for the old-skool nintendo."  the next day, the same person (i had no idea who this kid was)  goes up to me and started talking about "oldskool nintendo" some more.  i finnally got pissed and told him to screw off. does anybody else notice that the more people that start collecting, the more media attention it gets, and alot of those people suck?  there a few other kids at my school that have no idea what the difference between an atari 5200, virtual boy, and turbografx-16 is but claim to love classic gaming.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Tynstar on July 12, 2006, 01:04:11 PM
No one I know says "old sckool" so I dont have that problem. If I was around people like that I would have to agrree with you though.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: the_wizard_666 on July 12, 2006, 01:16:29 PM
I just hate people that think they know more about it than I do when they know nothing.  Granted, there's people with more NES knowledge than me, but don't act like you know more unless you can back it up.  Shit...


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Izret101 on July 12, 2006, 02:01:27 PM
I agree that i hate when people try to act like they know what they are talking about and really know nothing.

But at the same time i will try to carry a convo with them and educate the ignorant should they allow me.

You guys have to remember you don't hear the old school BS because your not hanging out with kids.
Hot Topic isn't helping that any either though.

As for media exposure, sure it is going to pull in more ignorant fools but it might bring in more rich ignorant fools.
For those who had pretty good collections before it becomes a fad they can possibly make a pretty good profit ;)


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: ganonbanned on July 12, 2006, 02:04:31 PM
I just hate people that think they know more about it than I do when they know nothing.  Granted, there's people with more NES knowledge than me, but don't act like you know more unless you can back it up.  Shit...

i could not agree more.  there is actually someone else i know that claims to be a retro gamer when in reality he knows nothing.  he could only name 4 NES games(mario 1,2,3 and tetris) and claimed that xbox 360 was better than NES.  sounds like a "retrogamer" to me.

EDIT:  yes, hot topic isnt helping neither.  i have also heard classic gaming called "emo"  a couple of times now.  thats just fine and dandy.  classic gaming is associated with kids that cut themselves.  i guess mortal kombat made them do it.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Izret101 on July 12, 2006, 02:16:27 PM
Yea alot of classic gaming or popculture stuff has been picked up by emo fags(sorry emo's  it is true though).
I was very pissed to see an eBay auction for a Rayden Mortal kombat T-shirt with emo plastered all over it.

In anycase being a retro/classic/old "skool"(as you put it) gamer is not effected by your personal favorite system either. That is all just a matter of preference.
If you want to get technical NES isn't even anything special there was plenty of gaming goodness that started in the decade preceding it.

It is all just a matter of preception. Depending on how old you are and what you were exposed to different things are classics, different things are ancient, etc. I know plenty of people who reminisce about growing up on there SNES, Genesis, PSOnes even Dreamcasts.

Hell my girlfriends daughter will grow up and talk about her SP being her first system and being oldschool or retro in a decade.

I think your just being a little hot headed about some things though.
Why let people get you so riled up about something so trivial?


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: ganonbanned on July 12, 2006, 02:26:04 PM
well, i dont know really.  i guess i just dont want to see something i love so much being exposed as something bad. (already happened to dungeons and dragons once or twice).  i can already see it being on my local news station (my local news station lets parents email them about things that are "bad"  and does stories about it.  i already see mario kart and mega man can give seizures.)


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: phoenix1967 on July 12, 2006, 02:46:16 PM
In reference to the original post, the term "old school" is being very overused these days with reference to just about anything from more than 5 years ago...so I agree with your annoyance with that. Personally, I prefer the term "throwback" when describing something from years past which is still respected today.

As far as being riled up by what others think, I agree with Izret in that it's not worth getting upset over it. And it's not worth arguing about with the idiots you may have to deal with. A motto I live by is: "Never argue with an idiot because they will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience.". I don't know who said it, but it makes a lot of sense.

Good luck.

 





Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Izret101 on July 12, 2006, 02:49:56 PM
The term old school is miles better than old skool at least.

When i think throwback i think of team jerseys.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: RetroYoungen on July 12, 2006, 03:20:33 PM
I just hate people that think they know more about it than I do when they know nothing.  Granted, there's people with more NES knowledge than me, but don't act like you know more unless you can back it up.  Shit...

I hear that completely.  I knew a guy in high school who decided to tell me he knew more about games and gaming than I did.  So we pushed questions back and forth (mines were about things like "first handheld system with carts" and the like, which he was absolutely lost on), and he stumped me on a few questions... all of which were about the first Resident Evil game.  So I asked him...

"What's the name of the PRODUCER of the Resident Evil series?"

He went dead silent.  And didn't claim to know ANYthing about games (to me anyway) after that.  I turned back to him after a few seconds and told him...

"By the way, it's Shinji Mikami, ass."

He decided to stay away from me. :-D

But yeah.  I hate it when people call things "the Sega" or "the Nintendo" or any of that.  I make a point to inform them of just which system they're probably talking about.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: AndyC on July 12, 2006, 04:23:25 PM
I really wouldn't worry about it too much, if your getting grief at school over being a gamer wait until you get a job and the rest of the staff find out. 9 hour days of make believe stories of past achievements, which have obviously never occured, games which never existed and then there's of course the constant question of "why do you buy stuff for 20 year old computers, I have a 360, I therefore must obviously be better than you".

You try and educate, but there's only so much you can do.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: James on July 12, 2006, 04:58:12 PM
Now, I don't claim to be a hardcore retro gamer. I just like playing old games. I'm the same way with music. I enjoy certain songs but don't usually care about the background or story behind the artist. I have ten Pink Floyd Albums but don't know much about the band. I'd feel stupid wearing a T-Shirt showing an inflatable pig saying "Blow Me".

[img width=152 height=92]http://img183.imageshack.us/img183/199/blowmepic7rx.th.jpg[/img] (http://img183.imageshack.us/my.php?image=blowmepic7rx.jpg)


Things like "old school Nintendo" or "THE Sega" really annoy me.

When I saw this (http://www.forum.ebaumsworld.com/showpost.php?p=2407698&postcount=5) post, I was amused but annoyed. I only got into collecting old games about a year and a half ago but I don't like how anything older than the PS2 is seen as cool because it's "different" and seen as rebelious to modern games.

In another post, someone posted a picture of themselves and said something like "I didn't buy the Dreamcast in the background in a pawn shop, I've had it since it was current." Uhhh. Ok? Why does that matter? As long as they enjoy it, it doesn't matter where or when they got it.

Hey, Duck Hunt! I remember that on old school Nintendo! Shooting the dog was the shizz. Did anyone else try doing that? [/unique individuality]

I don't collect games to be different. I buy them because I like the variety you get from ten different consoles, instead of the current three (or four if you count the 360 (Then there are handhelds)). That, and it's become a habit.

Edit: Bleh. I go off on non-sensical and possibly contradictory rants when it's late.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Tynstar on July 12, 2006, 05:37:24 PM
Hell my girlfriends daughter

 :o :o :o


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: atari_wizard on July 12, 2006, 07:29:12 PM
It doesn't bother me one bit. I like to talk video games with anyone who even seems slightly interested. =) I seem like a weirdo at many pawns and thrifts...they all know me as the Nintendo Guy. lol.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: ganonbanned on July 12, 2006, 07:30:53 PM
i dont mind THE sega, because a few years ago i was a say-er of THE sega.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Izret101 on July 12, 2006, 11:35:41 PM
Hey i think that shirt that says blow me is really cool.
I wanted to get one when i first saw it. But it was like 20$ and i don't really like buying clothing nevermind a 20$ shirt i won't be able to wear very often.

I still hear people say Nintendo failry often when refering to any nintendo product and generaly you can assume which system they mean.

Hell my girlfriends daughter

 :o :o :o

I have mentioned Sophia on more than one occasion you know ;)
She is 3. We play Dora, Spongebob, Mario Kart, Super Mario 64 DS, Princess Peach, etc, etc she is still mastering the DS and Sp so we haven't moved onto console gaming. lol
She also likes anime(My Neighbor Totoro a Miyazaki film is her current fav) and Sprout(a station run by PBS).
Cute kid.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Izret101 on July 12, 2006, 11:38:34 PM
i dont mind THE sega, because a few years ago i was a say-er of THE sega.
So you can deal with any ignorance you use to have but have no tolerance for the ignorance other currently have?

Thats fair ;) :P(don't take offense just joking i know text and smilies don't always convey that so i am blatantly pointing it out.)

I always called it THE sega genesis.

I use to say Shang Tuhsung though
And i called coins from mario rings(i grew up mostly on sonic give me a break)
lol
But that is from a long ago time in a far away place.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on July 12, 2006, 11:51:52 PM
I pretty much hate everything.

So yeah, people who say something is oldskool when it's from the nineties...PHAUGH!...bastards. Oldskool is like me falling of my horse and getting pissed and raising an army to go pillage Poland.

I don't know what I'm talking about either.

And Iz has a kid? Duuuuuuuuuuuude.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: the_wizard_666 on July 13, 2006, 01:28:00 AM
I think the worst is when people use the word "Nintendo" to describe ANY game system...although I do have some tolerance for it because I had to stoop to that level to explain what I was doing when my mom would ask...

Mom - "What are you doing?"
Me - "Playing Dreamcast."
Mom - "What the hell is that?"
Me - "Um...I'm playing Nintendo..."
Mom - "Oh, okay."

It's not that she means to be dumb, she just doesn't get into it.  You just gotta remember, people don't always know everything about your hobby, even if they have an interest.  Hell, I can't even identify a screwdriver by name except for a Phillips.  It's "flat head" or "square" or whatever...I know my dad gets irritated, but it's something that can be accepted.  Remember that :)


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Izret101 on July 13, 2006, 06:39:05 AM
I pretty much hate everything.

So yeah, people who say something is oldskool when it's from the nineties...PHAUGH!...bastards. Oldskool is like me falling of my horse and getting pissed and raising an army to go pillage Poland.

I don't know what I'm talking about either.

And Iz has a kid? Duuuuuuuuuuuude.

Pillage poland? lol
Are you german too?(If so i can join you on said pillage as my lineage would make it ok.)

The kid isn't mine, she is my girlfriends. I was 15(ish) when she was born.

I think the worst is when people use the word "Nintendo" to describe ANY game system...although I do have some tolerance for it because I had to stoop to that level to explain what I was doing when my mom would ask...

Mom - "What are you doing?"
Me - "Playing Dreamcast."
Mom - "What the hell is that?"
Me - "Um...I'm playing Nintendo..."
Mom - "Oh, okay."

It's not that she means to be dumb, she just doesn't get into it.  You just gotta remember, people don't always know everything about your hobby, even if they have an interest.  Hell, I can't even identify a screwdriver by name except for a Phillips.  It's "flat head" or "square" or whatever...I know my dad gets irritated, but it's something that can be accepted.  Remember that :)

Very good point with the tools.
Alot of people don't know because its not something they are into or spend time doing. My mother is fairly well educated about various gaming things because she wants to try and carry convos with me about them and even use to pick up some stuff for me when she went tagsaling.

But alas those days seem to be over :-/(I think she only bought me 2 or 3 small things from tagsales anyways.)


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: NationalGameDepot on July 14, 2006, 04:03:05 PM
I don't care for the old skool term either.  I think Hot Topic is the reason for the NES prices going to crazy as of late.  So many n00bs have gotten into collecting that it is more about who has the most games than actually playing the games.  Anytime I hear someone call NES emo, I want to :grrr: stab them.  Emo and old retro gaming have no direct ties.
~~NGD


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: JWZZR on July 15, 2006, 11:57:16 PM
I don't care for the old skool term either.  I think Hot Topic is the reason for the NES prices going to crazy as of late.  So many n00bs have gotten into collecting that it is more about who has the most games than actually playing the games.  Anytime I hear someone call NES emo, I want to :grrr: stab them.  Emo and old retro gaming have no direct ties.
~~NGD


see i hate words like that noob and pwn and all does other dork words along with all the cool words like emo and oldskool

at a yard sale i saw kids looking at some sega gen games that i got and they were talking about there gheto graphics

that made me laugh


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Alabama-Shrimp on July 17, 2006, 01:48:35 PM
ok for a start what the chuff is emo???

As for this "old skool" shit things like this get banded about all the time generly by wankers that dont know shit about anything tere just trying to be diffrent, it all wears itsself out in a few years leaving all the people that were into it before back being happy that the fuckwits have gone.

As in i have 2 cars 1 is 23 years old the other 17 as most people rae wanker sthey just think there old and should be scrapped if i paint "retro wank" on the side dos that make them cool to them?

i tthink the only other thing i dont like about games is being done now the same as it was years ago and that in America you dont say THE in front of a consoles name, As in im playing SNES or sonic on Genisis (hate this name too) its just wierd!


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: CatchFiveBats on July 18, 2006, 11:39:45 AM
People referring to NES as "Nintendo" or "old-school/skool Nintendo" or anything along that line drives me up a wall, but I have some serious issues with people who don't know how to pronounce things correctly (and this, in a very loose sense, fits under that category).  I have a friend who refers to rings as coins and vice versa just to tick me off, although I've gotten over that.

And I swear, if one more person mentions Duck Hunt to me when I tell them I have some older game consoles, I'm going to rip out their eyes.  Everyone played Duck Hunt as a kid.  We get it.  Shut up.

Also, I try to avoid buying game shirts unless it's just a game or company logo, so as to avoid the question "OMG DID U GET THAT AT HOT TOPIC I <3 THAT STORE LOLZ!!?!?!?!11!1!1one!1?!!". 

My sister, who hasn't seriously played a Mario game since Super Mario World, bought a shirt the other day with a kind of faded, Abercrombie & Fitch-style picture of Mario on it.  All I can say is WTF.  Not only is that a horrible representation of Mario, it's a crappy use of a franchise to look cool or rebellious or whatever these kids are trying to project through this stuff.  I just think it's funny that the same kids who say "heh, SNES is so lame, I like my Xbox 360 cause it's uber-graphics pwnage x10" will wear a shirt that says "Mario + Mushroom = Big Mario".  Apparently contradiction is the new black.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: logical123 on June 01, 2008, 07:50:21 PM
I love reviving old topics. ;D ;D

I have one of those little mario + mushroom = big mario shirts. Its kick ass!! :laugh:

I love the original nintendo, or NES, as I call it. Some people are just dumbasses. You must accept this and move on.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: cyberfluxor on June 01, 2008, 08:33:27 PM
Nothing like sitting in a game store and some 16 year old calling the Nintendo 64 old-school. Now that bugs the crap out of me more so than the NES. I've even heard kids talk about how the Dreamcast is a classic console and is some underground, leet piece of hardware. I'll give the DC props but my god, classic already? Embarrassing.

How do some of you feel about old school hip-hop or house? A DJ friend of mine complained about how I was calling some late 80's, early 90's house LPs I picked up the other day old school and was preaching about 70's being the foundation of the earlist house. I guess it's because I've never really experienced, let alone knew of an earlier existance without calling it disco or some electronica music. Maybe it's an interpretation error of music genres? No clue.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Cobra on June 01, 2008, 09:40:32 PM
The fact retro game collecting has been branded as emo while really ticks me off comes as no surprise. The emo fad (not the music that none of the emo faders even listen too) has no identity. They simply steel everything. Their fashion sense is stolen from Goth and Punk. The music they listen to is anything, but because they like it, it has now become emo! The only new thing that they have even done that is new is the cutting themselves. But that is just censored retarded! I'll just leave that there though as if I start a rant against this stupid fad before the end I might as well change my avatar into Foamy the squirrel.

I still refer to Nintendo simply as Nintendo, but I was never a big follower so the fact I still see them as the same company now as back then really doesn't have any merit. I do refer to the old Sega as something different though as it truly isn't the same company. I mean heck, Sonic's creator isn't even with Sega any more the last I heard.

As a kid I got kind of annoyed how the Master System was pretty much called Sega. In retro spect it makes sense though, unless you are really into it, you won't know Sega is the company name. After all it was their 1st system here, and the Sega writing stood out way more and was a quicker easier word to use. Even if we pronounce Sega differently to the US. (We say it as Seega)


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: TraderJake on June 01, 2008, 09:52:01 PM
This forum censors! What the deuce?


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: logical123 on June 02, 2008, 07:17:52 AM
What the doodle bug? Donkey doodling creepo!!! I like this new censoring thing!!! Its fun! :laugh:


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: CodysGameRoom on June 02, 2008, 11:04:31 AM
I find it quite amusing when people refer to N64 as old school.

As far as the Hot Topic thing, it doesn't bother me. I like wearing shirts of things I like. I'm not too concerned with what other people are buying I guess.

I've picked up a few sweet TMNT, Chip N Dale etc shirts there.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Cobra on June 02, 2008, 06:18:43 PM
Not really, I decided to make my post family friendly and did it myself  ;)


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: hXd on June 05, 2008, 09:35:34 AM
EDIT:  yes, hot topic isnt helping neither.  i have also heard classic gaming called "emo"  a couple of times now.  thats just fine and dandy.  classic gaming is associated with kids that cut themselves.  i guess mortal kombat made them do it.

Great, kids that cut themselves are associated with a fantastic music genre. That's just fine and dandy.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on June 09, 2008, 04:03:26 AM
The fact retro game collecting has been branded as emo while really ticks me off comes as no surprise. The emo fad (not the music that none of the emo faders even listen too) has no identity. They simply steel everything. Their fashion sense is stolen from Goth and Punk. The music they listen to is anything, but because they like it, it has now become emo! The only new thing that they have even done that is new is the cutting themselves. But that is just censored retarded! I'll just leave that there though as if I start a rant against this stupid fad before the end I might as well change my avatar into Foamy the squirrel.

I still refer to Nintendo simply as Nintendo, but I was never a big follower so the fact I still see them as the same company now as back then really doesn't have any merit. I do refer to the old Sega as something different though as it truly isn't the same company. I mean heck, Sonic's creator isn't even with Sega any more the last I heard.

As a kid I got kind of annoyed how the Master System was pretty much called Sega. In retro spect it makes sense though, unless you are really into it, you won't know Sega is the company name. After all it was their 1st system here, and the Sega writing stood out way more and was a quicker easier word to use. Even if we pronounce Sega differently to the US. (We say it as Seega)

What the fuck?

Also: Old School hip-hop seems valid to me.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Cobra on June 09, 2008, 05:32:14 AM
What the fuck?
What part did you want me to clarify?


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on June 09, 2008, 01:43:02 PM
I thought the forum censored. My head was asplodin.

That is all.


Title: Re: does anybody else hate "the oldskool nintendo"?
Post by: Cobra on June 09, 2008, 08:11:15 PM
Oh okay :laugh: