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That's what I listed it as and it cane be found here
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300122127596

How well will it sell? Only time will tell.
Bidders from the US and definitely Europe and the UK have a big advantage with their currency being worth considerably more.

I saw that yesterday. I see no reason why that would get 6k.

It cost me well over 8k to make the creation, plus you can't underestimate the rareness of the collection.
eg. The Video-CD Saturn alone is the only one on eBay at the moment, and a Google search doesn't help much.

Not to mention it's a PAL version, but modified to play any games.
Plus the rareness of some of the games,  Radiant Silvergun sells for over $200au on it's own.

Don't get me wrong there is some nice stuff but in large lots people are looking for smoking deals I think. I wish you good luck. If you want to make money off it try breaking it up.

I'll give this a few attempts first. But if all else fails I may have to break it down.
9 watches so far, and was hoping this would make a bigger splash since it's only 50 games shy of a complete PAL collection, something I have never seen on eBay in all my years using it.

Thanks for wishing me luck.

Why are you selling if you don't mind me asking?

My love of Sega has finally run dry.
I would always stick up for them and I feel rightfully so. Once upon a time anything they touched turned to magic. It was a company you could be proud of. I know it was talked about a long ago in this thread started by Dramcaster
http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=4176.0

But why sell it now, after all that post was from last year even?
Because every last decision Sega has made has been the wrong one. Now it's finally got the the point I have no pride in them at all. Hell, I only even brought one game for my Saturn this year, and have only played the Saturn twice this year, and one of those times was to play the game I had brought for it.

I can say I like companies like Commodore and Apple with pride because they stay true to themselves. Commodore died, but with honour. They could of hoped onto the new trend and just become a reseller of IBM's Frankenstein PC design, but they stayed true. Apple likewise, while still with us, they still make their Macs. Regardless of how much they lack in sales compared to PCs, they don't care and stay true. They don't suddenly make their oppositions product just because that's where the real money is.

Ever since Sonic and Mario teamed up that was it for me. I couldn't think of any bigger insult having been such a hardcore Sega fan for all those years.

I understand but decision made today doesn't change the fact of how great they where in the past.

i think you should keep it all, who cares if sega sucks now. that is a pretty nice lot with alot of good games, you will miss it when it's gone.

Exactly, you only deny yourself that chance to re-live Sega's glory. Realistically you should have sold it years ago when they went third party if you really feel that strongly. In the end it will still be a silent protest and you may never have the opprotunity to have it like this again so make sure it's a financial decision and not a personal one.

How did Commodore stay true to itself? it's name has been whored out and abused as bad as Atari's. Have you looked at the new Commodore lately? Is ipod, itunes and iphone staying true to Apple? Don't forget these are businesses, and ones that have adapted and changed with the times. The hardcore fans may not agree but Sega hasn't been a well respected leader since the Genesis. Saturn and DC's sales figures and commercial failures tell that tale well enough.

You should look at it from a half-full perspective. Nintendo is notoriously protective about it's franchises. To have Sonic side by side with Mario is the biggest sign of respect and admiration they could possibly offer Sega. Considering the terrible games Sega has released under the Sonic name over the past while Nintendo is taking a big chance. Either way it doesn't affect what Sega did in the past.

Microsoft's involvement in the Dreamcast didn't shake you why should this?

Commodore did stay true though, and died in '94. They went bankrupt.
That's why we see the name getting tossed about and even separated (Amiga is no longer one with Commodore).
I believe Apple is still staying true, but simply expanding their business into other areas of success. Sega did the same thing, they started off just repairing arcade machines. Then they also started making them as well, then they went from repairing and making arcade games to making home computer and console games. Then to making their own systems, followed by handheld systems.

It's not any one thing, simply the final nail in the coffin for me.
Dragon Force being ported to PS2 actually annoyed me more than all else, since to me that was the Saturn. It was the one game that made me buy a Saturn when I was already enjoying my MegaDrive/Mega-CD/32X/MegaMaster Converter machine with no intention of ever upgrading.
I don't hate Sega, but no longer have any passion in maintaining and building this collection any more. I honestly feel there is someone out there that will be more dedicated, and get a lot more joy out of it than me now.

http://www.commodoregaming.com/pcshop/Splash.aspx

You could argue it's just name abuse but they had their price, all businesses do. Not that far off of Sammy buying Sega 3 years ago.

Commodore had no say in any of this however, as stated they went bankrupt and its assets were liquidated in '94. It had been struggling ever since '92 and had almost gone bankrupt then but was bailed out then but there was no escaping their fate in the end.
That company dose own the name and trademarks, logos, technology, etc.

Those that acquired these from the government after Commodore's death are playing on the whole nostalgia idea for sales.
Like you said, the name has been tossed around ever since and this is where it stands at the moment. Before this, it was a mobile phone game company.

Funnily enough, out of the multiple companies that now own the Amiga trademark, one seems much more dedicated to the original Commodore, with them currently still making updates to Amiga's original OS for power PCs.

If you decide to split it up please put it on here first. It's much easier for me to buy off an Australian than going on Ebay. ^_^

Long time no see cobra.

Good luck with it.

oh btw

SCAN & SUBMIT EVERYTHING BEFORE IT SELLS!!!!
;)


EDIT
Oh and if you split it up keep me in mind for MK2 ;)

Hi Izret, yeah I been away for a little while, although lost track of just how long.
MK2 for that Saturn is wicked, because their is virtually no loading apart from Shang Tsung morphing.
The only disappointment is that it doesn't say the characters names when you select them.

Hopefully I won't have to break it down, but only time will tell.


Selling local is always good, it saves a LOT on postage, especially when you offer free shipping  :D

Yea Tsung load times and i thought load times for the fatalities and such???

Oh yea UMK3 aswell ;)

But like you said hopefully you don't have to break it up.
If i had 5k and some odd dollars to play with i would pick it up :)

I second that!

Shang Tsung was the only really notable loading, but that's because it pauses game play haha.

I better get scanning tonight sine there is a bit to do.
Any one know what games have already been done?

I am not sure what games have been scanned. I would say a lot of the PAL games but they might be under the old size of 450 pixels on the short side. We now do 550 on the short side. So the older ones could be replaced.

Yes and it's a shorter distance (so you know it's arrived sooner) and theres no ebay commission fees or paypal withdrawal fees for you if you decide to sell on here. xD

You can do a image search. It will tell you what games have images already and which specific scans they need to make that title complete. As for games that don't have any images is beyond me; though, I'm sure there is a way to find out.

To find out what games currently have images and what doesnt is actualy very simple. At the top is the link "submit".  At the bottem of the menu that should appear when you highlight it is "submit images".  Once you click that, it will take you to a screen that has "submit game image" as well as "submit hardware image".  Ignore the hardware one and just click the game one.  Once you've dont that, it will take you to another screen that'll show you a screen with a number of fields.  The first one "title" is not important at the moment, so ignore it.  The next is "console" which you should select the saturn from.  The next is "region" which will allow you to select which you want.  As your games are from all 3 of the major releases for the system, you can select Europe, Japan, or North America as needed.  All the fields after that are not important.  Once you hit the search button you'll see every game for that region as well as what games have pictures available, what ones dont, as well as what ones are only partialy covered (ie has front but no back, has disc but no manual).

There's no way I'm aware of to display everything on the same screen using this search so you'll still have to go thru each page.  Atleast this way you can find out what does and does not have images already in the database.


If you find any titles currently not in the database though, then they need to be submited for aproval.  If posible, please try to include all details pertaining the game such as parts numbers and such.  It would be greatly apreciated as it would help us speed things up so we were able to get it into the database quickly.

You've got yourself some free publicity:

Joystiq Post (http://www.joystiq.com/2007/06/14/every-saturn-game-you-could-possibly-want-and-then-some/#comments)

That's awesome! Wonder how much his auction viewed number went up?

I think it definitely had an effect. 22 watches this morning before I went to work, and now 32 when I just checked. I may have to drop Kyle Orland a thank you if it goes for more because of this. Also thank you Tan for sharing the link  ;D

Thank you for linking to us in your auction, RFGen can use the publicity as well and maybe we got a few more hits ut of it.   :)

Ah, you noticed :D
I'm hoping we may even get some new members out of it. :)
I believe that Joystiq Post did the trick, plus the fact there is just one day to go.
41 watches at present.

Just in, a message I got sent on eBay amazingly enough had nothing to do with just wanting to buy some games of my collection separately this time. Here it is below:

New link
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=300122127596

Will me making over a $4000 loss be enough to sell it?....
Probably not, but if I set my RF Gen collection to all games for sale, and sold them separately this was instead of over 200 separate eBay auctions, how well, and how much of it do people think it would sell on here alone?

If you were to sell it on here at that price I'd accept it on those same terms. For you, you would save on ebay commission fees and whatnot and you're guaranteed to save a bit on what you've set aside for posting it overseas. I can also pay by direct deposit too so you won't have to give paypal anything when you withdraw the money. Have a think about it. ^_^

I certainly will consider this, and thank you for the offer.
My rule is never to sell anything for less than half of what you payed for it... just something because some RPG I use to play way back, whenever you sold items to stores you only got half of what it cost you and for some reason that kinda stuck with me. So I appreciate the offer. Will definitely think about it.

Thanks again ;D

no problem. If  paying for the postage tips it in my favour, i have no problems with it. It'll probably be minimal anyway if sent in the largest boxes allowed by Aust Post. Couriering will probably be even cheaper but will probably be a bit more of a hassle to you.

I can understnad what you mean about getting half back. I remember walking out of shops after having just  bought a full price game and having buyers remorse hit me and how I would never get the money back. I'd soon lose the feeling after I get home but the internet and buying 2nd hand has made it a lot easier. :)

Benefits of selling it to yourself
1.) Australia's biggest Saturn collection stays in Australia
2.) RF Gen's biggest Saturn collection stays on RF Generation

The advantage of keeping it on eBay.. not much really, all I can really hope for after seeing people aren't willing to go up to $6000 is to hopefully at least cover postage costs with whatever bids go above $4000, so SOLD.

I believe this community to of been a very great and trustful community for some time now, so to get the most accurate postage cost, I'll send you the receipts along with the collection and the total can be payed after you have received it all :)

oh wow now I'll have to find the place to put them. It'll go to a good home I promise. I always wanted to get more into the saturn;s shooters and fighters but by the time I found out about it it was already a superceded console. (I started gaming mostly with the Dreamcast). Not that it would affect the sale but a couple of questions... how did you set it all up for playing? Would this be the most ideal - optimized  pal games on the pal console, and unoptimized pal + us ones on the us console, and the japanese ones on the vcd one? Are the voltages on the consoles changed or would they need a stepdown? Some fighters require 1 meg and 4meg carts which the action replay does both huh.

I guess we can movethe rest of the trade to PM huh? :D

I'll answer the current questions right here, but then contact you further via PM  :leo:

Basically, it's got everything you need. There is a 4MB cart included that works with any games already in the collection aside from KOF '95. This had it's own RAM cart, that is used purely to play this game, that is also included :)
(I had the Action Replay before the 4MB cart you see)

As for what systems to use. The white one dose everything, the other Saturns were from earlier on in creating the collection before I had the white one. The special thing about the white Video-CD Saturn is that it is 240v, so no adaptors or anything are needed.

The left switch is the region
UP = PAL
MIDDLE = US
DOWN = JAP

The right switch is the 50/60Hz switch to get the optimised speed and screen space out of your games.
UP = 50
DOWN = 60
You can write this on the front if you want, but the modder didn't want to ruin such a rare console by writing on it, and I agreed this was for the best.

All JAP & US games run best at 60Hz, PAL games differ from title to title, so it's your call, try them out. It is safe to change the Hz switch during gameplay. However never change the region while the system is on.

If you ever need any help or advice I'm just a PM away.
So that just leaves CONGRATULATIONS!!!  ;D