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Title: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 20, 2008, 04:58:08 PM I stopped by the pawn shop today and picked up a few things. The guy helping me asked if I had heard Nintendo's big, new announcement. I said I hadn't. He told me that Nintendo sent out a message telling them to destroy any classic NES and SNES games that they receive, presumably to boost the sales of their Wii arcade. Has anyone else heard anything about this? It was news to me, but not really shocking news. It seems like something Nintendo would do to ensure that they are still getting paid for anything with that Nintendo seal on it...
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: phoenix1967 on February 20, 2008, 05:21:29 PM ...a pawn shop guy, eh?... ::)
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 20, 2008, 05:28:20 PM I have talked to him numerous times, and he knows his shit. He works for Pawn America so it seems likely that they'd get a request like that, if one exists.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Tondog on February 20, 2008, 06:20:24 PM Very interesting...and I must say a great business move on their part.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 20, 2008, 06:44:26 PM Very interesting...and I must say a great business move on their part. That's what I was thinking. The last estimate that I saw was that they had already made $50+ million on their virtual console sales. A decision like this would only lead to more profits. I honestly don't even think that it will affect classic game collectors all that much. From the sounds of it, it was more of a "we'd like you to do this for us, but you're not obligated to." Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on February 20, 2008, 07:18:17 PM Fucking Nintendo fags are turning into M$.
FUCK THEM Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: NES_Rules on February 20, 2008, 07:35:10 PM [img width=700 height=525]http://i76.photobucket.com/albums/j22/Mike_2_0_0_6/GIVEUSTHEGAMES.jpg[/img]
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: ganonbanned on February 20, 2008, 09:18:37 PM This...just pisses me off on so many levels...but...What Pawn shop guy is going to destroy there old games? I mean, only if there fuckin stupid. They damn well know there worth money.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Hydrobond on February 20, 2008, 09:28:45 PM NES_Rules: that picture cracked me up.
Team Nintendo: World Police (The Quest for Elian Gamezalez) This...just pisses me off on so many levels...but...What pawn shop guy is going to destroy their old games? I mean, only if they're fuckin stupid. They damn well know they're worth money. Three swings. Three misses. Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 20, 2008, 09:33:40 PM Quote This...just pisses me off on so many levels...but...What pawn shop guy is going to destroy their old games? I mean, only if they're fuckin stupid. They damn well know they're worth money. Three swings. Three misses. Thanks for cleaning up that mess :) Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Hydrobond on February 20, 2008, 09:40:52 PM ^I wasn't trying to be mean/grammar nazi, but it really isn't that hard to keep homonyms like their/they're/there, two/to/too, and its/it's in their proper place.
Note to the Internet: Spell check doesn't catch everything! edit: A list of homophones: http://www.cooper.com/alan/homonym_list.html And today's XKCD.com comic. [img width=300 height=330]http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png[/img] Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 20, 2008, 09:44:08 PM I gave up trying to correct people. Everyone takes it so personally, like I am trying to sleep with their mom or something. Just trying to help you look more respectable, that's all.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: NES_Rules on February 20, 2008, 09:57:26 PM NES_Rules: that picture cracked me up. It's amazing 8 years later, Elian is still relevant. Team Nintendo: World Police (The Quest for Elian Gamezalez) ^I wasn't trying to be mean/grammar nazi, but it really isn't that hard to keep homonyms like their/they're/there, two/to/too, and its/it's in their proper place. That bugs the hell out of me too. Yesterday, a kid gave a presentation in class and spelled "their" as "there" on the PowerPoint. I was tempted to ask him about it in the "Q&A" segment, but didn't. Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Fuyukaze on February 20, 2008, 11:00:41 PM I could sooner believe I was in the middle of having a sex change as believe nintendo could care a rats ass about a pawn shop chain selling classic games. Every single time they release a classic title on the wii the original cart's value takes a dive. You should call Nintendo's tech support line (it's on the back of the SNES) and tell thim this rumor, I'm sure they'd love a good laugh.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: jcalder8 on February 20, 2008, 11:51:53 PM I don't believe this at all, there just isn't a need for it.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 21, 2008, 12:49:47 AM I don't believe this at all, there just isn't a need for it. Really, it makes perfect sense. In a lot of cases, buying the classic games is cheaper than paying the $8-$10 for the Wii arcade games. It's the reason why I haven't purchased one online game since I got my Wii almost 2 years ago. I can go out and find the games for $4 or $5, and Nintendo doesn't see a dime of that money. Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: jcalder8 on February 21, 2008, 09:47:44 AM Really, it makes perfect sense. In a lot of cases, buying the classic games is cheaper than paying the $8-$10 for the Wii arcade games. It's the reason why I haven't purchased one online game since I got my Wii almost 2 years ago. I can go out and find the games for $4 or $5, and Nintendo doesn't see a dime of that money. The average person isn't going into pawn shops to buy games instead of buying them on the Wii. Also it isn't cheaper to buy them at a pawn shop unless the ones that you shop at are a heck of a lot better than the ones here.Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 21, 2008, 10:20:26 AM Really, it makes perfect sense. In a lot of cases, buying the classic games is cheaper than paying the $8-$10 for the Wii arcade games. It's the reason why I haven't purchased one online game since I got my Wii almost 2 years ago. I can go out and find the games for $4 or $5, and Nintendo doesn't see a dime of that money. The average person isn't going into pawn shops to buy games instead of buying them on the Wii. Also it isn't cheaper to buy them at a pawn shop unless the ones that you shop at are a heck of a lot better than the ones here.They must be, because it seems like I never spend more than $5 on loose, classic games I find in the wild. Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: philosophyst on February 21, 2008, 03:34:17 PM I purchased my Wii on launch day here in the US and have had it 1 year 3 months.
Bad Enough Dude, you said you had your Wii for almost 2 years. ??? As far as Nintendo asking pawn shops to destroy games, I think not. What is in it for them? Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Tondog on February 21, 2008, 03:45:50 PM As far as Nintendo asking pawn shops to destroy games, I think not. What is in it for them? Money. More sales on the Wii Virtual Console.Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: philosophyst on February 21, 2008, 03:54:18 PM I think that came out wrong....I meant what is in it for the pawn shop owner. I understand that Nintendo may benefit from this if it were true but I don't believe it is and my original thought was what would the pawn owner get out of destroying games.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 21, 2008, 04:29:03 PM I purchased my Wii on launch day here in the US and have had it 1 year 3 months. Bad Enough Dude, you said you had your Wii for almost 2 years. ??? My mistake. Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 21, 2008, 05:01:00 PM I think that came out wrong....I meant what is in it for the pawn shop owner. I understand that Nintendo may benefit from this if it were true but I don't believe it is and my original thought was what would the pawn owner get out of destroying games. Sorry for the misunderstanding. Usually in cases like this, the store would report what they destroyed and they would receive a credit in exchange for the lost merchandise. Obviously they can't make them do something like this and not offer them anything in return. Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Fuyukaze on February 21, 2008, 10:56:37 PM Seriously, this is the dumbest rumor I've heard this year for the following reasons.
1.All those old games require the old systems. As collectors, sure, we probly have them but for the general population, chances are they got rid of them years ago. 2.Pawn shops would report destroyed merchendise to who? Their supplier? Well, I highly doubt the person who sold them the cart only copy of mario/duck hunt would care if the pawn shop took a sledge hammer to it. They pawned it to the shop or browed money and couldnt pay on the loan hence it becoming property of the shop. If Nintendo somehow offered to pay them for each of their destroyed games, they'd go bankrupt because every single pawn shop would claim to destroy hundreds of games valued at thousands and they'd have no way of proving differently. 3.There is absolutly no great profit for Nintendo to do this as they've already made millions off of VC downloads without requiring anyone to get rid of anything. 4.Wii VC games start off at 500 points, not 8-10. I dare you to find a copy of Alien Soldier for $4-$5. Maybe you could also grab me a copy of Harvest Moon. Or Lords of Thunder. Maybe even Sin & Punishment even? If not, you could also try finding them for me for twice the price the points are charging even. If you can find me a cart only copy of S&P for $24, I'll give you $30 shipped right now. 5.Nintendo doesnt own the rights to every game released for their own systems let alone for all the games released on the other systems featured on the VC. Do you honestly believe Hudson, SNK, and Sega would agree to have their games destroyed because Nintendo saw the potential for personal gain? Think Konami, Capcom, SONY, EA, or any other 3rd party would give an OK to that either? Now, call the following number and share this entire delightfull rumor with these folks please. 1-800-255-3700 Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 21, 2008, 11:10:18 PM Since I started the thread, I will take it upon myself to try and confirm it's validity. I have sent an email to Nintendo customer care, and we'll go from there.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Tan on February 21, 2008, 11:27:56 PM Nintendo can't fart in their sleep without it making breaking news all over the net. If this was legit, shouldn't someone have covered it by now?
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Tondog on February 21, 2008, 11:39:29 PM Since I started the thread, I will take it upon myself to try and confirm it's validity. I have sent an email to Nintendo customer care, and we'll go from there. Good. I hope you can get to the bottom of this.Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Cobra on February 23, 2008, 06:53:25 PM I'd say it's a rumour and nothing more, otherwise I've just found a new career path if Nintendo will pay us to eliminate old stock.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: phoenix1967 on February 25, 2008, 04:58:28 PM Nintendo can't fart in their sleep without it making breaking news all over the net. If this was legit, shouldn't someone have covered it by now? You mean to say that you DOUBT pawn shop guy? ::) Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Jared on February 25, 2008, 05:21:53 PM Since I started the thread, I will take it upon myself to try and confirm it's validity. I have sent an email to Nintendo customer care, and we'll go from there. So what happened? Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Tan on February 25, 2008, 06:14:26 PM Nintendo can't fart in their sleep without it making breaking news all over the net. If this was legit, shouldn't someone have covered it by now? You mean to say that you DOUBT pawn shop guy? ::) Not at all. I'm sure he believes it, and I believe he believes. It's a matter of whether I believe the source that told him. Tens of thousands of pawn shops just in North America alone, dozens of chains representing many of them. Nintendo will never give you anything but a politicians answer if you email them directly. They are only candid with analysts and journalists on their best of days. But the fact that no one has ever heard of this, even as a reported far fetched rumor, leads me to believe that there's little if any truth to it at all. If anything, this rumor is a twisted "monkey telephone" version of the story in Japan where the government wanted to ban and recycle older electronics including video games. But that's old news and no longer a concern, even for the Japanese. http://www.engadget.com/2006/03/27/japan-drops-ban-on-resale-of-used-gear/ Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: OatBob on February 26, 2008, 02:47:32 PM the Japan thing was based on legislation to get rid of old electronic appliances that had a higher potential as a fire hazard, in addition to getting rid of less efficient electrical deices from the past. Of course, this ban seems a bit rediculous, especially to gamers as it includes classics like the FM Towns and Famicom.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: BadEnoughDude on February 26, 2008, 03:00:28 PM Well, here was my original email:
Quote I heard a rumor from a trusted source that Nintendo is asking game shops, pawn shops and second hand stores to destroy any classic game cartridges that they receive, presumably to ensure that all games purchased are purchased through the Wii Virtual Console. I don't need any detailed information, but as a classic game collector I would just like to know the validity of this rumor. Thanks a lot. And here is the reply that I got: Quote Hello, I'm not aware of such a program. We do offer a way to dispose of games when consumers aren't able to take advantage of local recycling options for either rechargeable batteries or hardware. However, for those who wish to recycle, there are a variety of other programs available in most local areas. Like you mentioned, consumers who purchase our products tend to hang on to them long after having upgraded. In addition, consumer demand for used Nintendo products remains high, resulting in very infrequent requests for recycling options. Also keep in mind that Nintendo is not the only publisher of games relating to our systems, there are many other (licensee) companies that have also released games for our systems. To see a list of these licensee companies, go to the following web address and click on the company name: http://www.nintendo.com/corp/licensees.jsp As you know, there are countless websites on the Internet that post Nintendo news and information. Many of these independent websites take the liberty of posting news based on rumors, speculation, or assumptions--and that is just fine. We understand that Nintendo fans are eager for as much new information as possible! However, as a publicly traded company in Japan, Nintendo has a responsibility to our retailers, suppliers, employees, and stockholders to provide accurate, official information on our products. Therefore, what we present on our official website will always be confirmed and reliable. Although officially confirmed information can still change from time to time (like product release dates), Nintendo's own websites will be the most current official source for all Nintendo news and information. Our website is also a source of information on products produced by our third-party licensees. However, because these products are not produced or sold by Nintendo, we may not have all of the latest details. In these cases, we recommend that fans visit the website for the actual company who produces the product in question, or contact them directly for the latest news. Sincerely, Nintendo of America Inc. Neil Dunkin Seems like more than a typical 'tow the company line' type email, but the answer was predictable. Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Tondog on February 27, 2008, 01:59:19 AM Seems very PRish, but I can still see them saying this to pawn shops, however unlikely it may be.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: ColecoVisionist on March 04, 2008, 11:36:25 AM Sounds like an urban legend to me, but I've heard dumber things from corporations, like trying to stop the selling of used books and CDs.
Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: philosophyst on March 04, 2008, 05:07:40 PM Sounds like an urban legend to me, but I've heard dumber things from corporations, like trying to stop the selling of used books and CDs. Wasn't that Garth Brooks that through a big fit about stores selling used CD's? Title: Re: Nintendo: "Destroy our old games" Post by: Tynstar on March 26, 2008, 12:54:26 PM Really, it makes perfect sense. In a lot of cases, buying the classic games is cheaper than paying the $8-$10 for the Wii arcade games. It's the reason why I haven't purchased one online game since I got my Wii almost 2 years ago. I can go out and find the games for $4 or $5, and Nintendo doesn't see a dime of that money. The average person isn't going into pawn shops to buy games instead of buying them on the Wii. Also it isn't cheaper to buy them at a pawn shop unless the ones that you shop at are a heck of a lot better than the ones here.I agree with that. Most people are not going to go looking for a NES with games to save a few bucks. |