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DS $149.99 stand alone, $179.99+ with 1 game
PSP JAP (current import prices) $200.00-$249.00 USD

DS Release List:
NOV 2004:
Feel the Magic: XY/XX
Madden NFL 2005
Metroid Prime Hunters: First Hunt
PictoChat Nintendo DS
Ping Pals
Rayman DS
Ridge Racer
Spider-Man 2
Super Mario 64
Tiger Woods 2005
Urbz, The: Sims in the City


2005:
Atari Classics
Pac Pix
Pokémon Dash
Ultimate Brain Games
Ultimate Card Games
WarioWare Touched!
Yoshi's Touch & Go


ANNOUNCED:
Advance Wars
Air Assault 2
Animal Crossing
Another (temporary title)
Asphalt Urban GT
Boktai (working title)
Bomberman
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Frogger
GoldenEye: Rogue Agent
Jam with the Band (temporary title)  
Mario Kart (tentative title)
Mr. DRILLER: Drill Spirits
Need for Speed Underground 2
One-Line Puzzle (temporary title)
Pac'n Roll (working title)
Puppy Times (temporary title)
Robots
Sprung
Super Mario Bros.
Viewtiful Joe
Zoo Keeper

PSP Release List:
**not a full list, just the ones likely to come to the US

Armored Core: Formula Front
Ape Escape
ATV Offroad Fury
Axel Impact International
Bomberman
Burnout
Crazy Racing: Kart Rider
Darkstalkers Chronicle
Death, Jr.
Devil May Cry
Dynasty Warriors
Fighting Spirits
Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children
Formula 1 '04
Free Running
Frogger
Ghost in the Shell
Gran Turismo 4 Mobile
Hard Corps
Harvest Moon
Hot Shots Golf
Infected
MediEvil
Mercury
Metal Gear Acid
Metal Shell
Mobile Suit Gundam
NBA ShootOut 2005
NBA Street
Need for Speed Underground
NFL Street
NHL FaceOff 2005
Professional Wrestling
Project S
Puyo Pop Fever
Puzzle Bobble
Ridge Racer
Spider-Man 2
Sticky Balls
Syphon Filter: Logan's Shadow
Tales of Eternia
Technic Beat
Tokyo Xtreme Racer
Tony Hawk's Underground
Twisted Metal World Tour
Tiger Woods PGA Tour
Viewtiful Joe
Ys: The Ark of Napishtim
Zero Hour

I hate to admit it but... I think the PSP wins.

Yeah, it's looking pretty good for the PSP. If only it had a longer battery time.

@ Anti Asphalt Urban GT is already out and Pictochat is not a game.
@ Arrr Don't worry you know they are going to(or at least damn well should) release a new battery in the future. There is no way they are going to lose because of a battery.

Yeah, they might do that, but how much longer would that make the battery life? Even if they get a 100% improvement it'll still only be 4 hours. If only they made it so you could use regular batteries in it.  At least you can replace those much easier yourself.

I heard some where (Newsweek I think) that the PSP's battery life will last for quite a while when playing games, but is cut to 3 hours when watching movies.

Wow, I definatley think the PSP wins out.  :o

There really aren't any games in the DS launch that I want that much.

Remind me not to watch 'The Cure For Insomnia' on one :P

The PSP final battery life was announced at 2 hours. It was speculated 6-7 hours gaming 3-4 hours movie.
Not positive on those original speculations though.

That's worse than a Game Gear.  Still, it does definitely win out over DS in terms of what games will be available.  It is kind of sad that Nintendo can have two screens running and still beat out PSP in terms of battery life, though.  Somebody ought to call up the people that designed the NGPC and get them working on a solution for PSP.  That thing was announced at 40 hours on two AA batteries by SNK, but I have had mine run well over 50.  Sure, it's not backlit, but that's still amazing.

@Sureshot - You don't actually have that movie, do you?  I've been looking for it for ages.

Come on - how many of these PSP games have we not played already?  I have to admit that FFVII: Advent Children and Ys: The Ark of Napishtim are reason enough for me to buy the PSP, I'm really not sure it will be that much (if any) better than the DS as a system.

I honestly think the DS touch screen is a stroke of marketting genious.  Being an avid PDA user myself, I can't tell you how many times I wish I had gameboy control and quality on my Palm.  Well, DS is the answer.  This will have MASSIVE appeal to school kids - like cell phones and their games/ringtones/face plates did.  Not only can you chat on it, play a ton of cool touch-screen wifi games on it, but it allows for incredible control.  I was able to control my character in Metroid just as well as I could with a keyboard/mouse combo.  I wasn't expecting that.  I think Sony is banking on an old formula, and while it may do well at first, it won't have any lasting appeal.

Like I've said before - Nintendo can out-game Sony.  I'm just hoping Sony doesn't out-market Nintendo again.  Could be VHS vs. Betamax (or Sega Genesis vs. TurboGrafx 16) all over again.

OD

One look at that release list however shows that the PSP will have about twice as many games  available as the DS. Even if the DS would outgame the PSP quality wise (Which I doubt), the PSP would still win Quanitity wise, which is just as important if you want to sell something.

Did anyone else realize that the new handhelds just stole ideas from hanhelds that all died?
Game.com- Stylus
N-Gage- Wireless
GameGear- shit battery life

Anyways Sony is probably going to win this one too. They have the ability to churn out TONS of decent titles and i just givesa much wider array of games to appeal to a larger market.
Compare the N64 and PS library, compare the GCN and the PS2 library. And i in the future i will be saying compare the DS and PSP library.
Nintendo has some solid games but just can't hold up against Sony like it could Sega. Plus they no longer control 75% of the market and developers.

I just found out something pretty cool today. When you are near someone with a multiplayer game you can temperarily download a complete copy of that game to the systems memory so you can play.

I think it's also pretty important to keep in mind that the hand held gaming market is not necessarily the same as the console buyer market.  I think Sony is making a mistake - I'm willing to wager the PSP will end up like the other systems made by big-name companies who tried to enter the portable market, but got crushed by Nintendo.

OD

that feature sounds really cool, granted there are people that own the ds near you. if it succeeds in the first year i'll get one rrather than wasting money on a system that everyone thinks will do poorly