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I noticed that the Gamertag thread was etting alittle off course so lets bring the talk in here.
Sauza i accepted you invite FYI.
Could we set up a time when all of use would be able to play? It would be cool for all of us to play together.

If you guys can get a time setup before hand i will do my best to talk my way into using the livingroom to play at that time.

Hope we can get a match set up soon.

I will talk to my wife to see what is going on tonight. But I was thinking maybe 7-8 tonight AZ time?

Shoot me a IM before hand and i will let you know if i clinched the living room.

Will do! Will Dan be playing? If so Rick and I look foward to kill the both of ou repeatedly |D  :cannon: :redvsblue: :beating:

I will be up for some Halo 2 action tonight. 4 day weekend for me  :D And like Scott said .....

If so Scott and I look foward to kill the both of ou repeatedly  :shooting:

Oui?....

Anyways Dan isn't here tonight so he wouldn't play tonight. If worse cones to worse my little brother might play.
Also we could invite AlphaLancer(a.k.a N-gagedefender) too.

Any one thats wants to play just get on and look for us.

CN and Izret that was a lot of fun.

Have to love ended the game on a killing spree of 15 in a run!!!!!! I love that sword!!!!!! |D

My little brother is banned from all further games that go past midnight because he starts to get irritating.
I might have Dan swing by this week while i am off so he can get in on some more multiplayer fun.

I am going to be playing probably most of the rest of the night. If anyone comes on send my a message and i will join your match.

General, Captain and Monster great games tonight.
I will see what i can do about this lack of a headset though.
I was going to ask for the 12 month live package for Xmas because headset is included.

Does anyone know anything about the Halo2 headset?

Friend o fmine has it and he says it is a pain in the ass.

Fun games last night everyone!

Yeah.... Good games last night. Glad we could level you 2 up  :) Now if only I can move from a 7 to an 8.

Anybody hear anything about why we could not log on for an hour last night ?

Because Microsoft is a piece of shit.

But i don't know if it would have anything to do with the Halo2 tounrey that was announced to start 11 Eastern Time on Xbox.com.

I wanted to play in it but it doesn't say how to join.:-/

If the tourney was an official one the sign up was through http://www.bungie.net I would guess.

I will probably be back on tonight between 10-11(eastern) if anyone is going to play

You know I will be there.
Is every Halo2 player here at rf gen in our clan ?

NGageDefender is AlphaLancer.
But he is a traitor. I told him i like the new clan i was in and he said he wanted to leave the same clan too then he sent me an clan invite to rejoin.
I might not be on till after midnight (my time) but i look foreward to us matching up.

We need to get AlphaLancer on the Darkside. Rick, Anthony, Sauza and I should all send clan invites to him.

I will be on tomorrow day sometime because i was "Forbid" from playing tonight.
When i see him i well bombard him with invites for you.

Yes ...... Come join the dark side . We could always use more clan members online so there will always be somebody to team up with  :)

AQ little late responding to this thread, but hey, I was busy.  

It was alot of fun playing with you guys the other day.  I might be playing again tonight with a couple of guys so if you guys are on I will send you invites.  Oh yeah, Izret sorry I didn't respond to your message yesterday, but I was just getting a quick Halo fix in before I went out.

Izret I did get a couple of messages from you asking to join my games , but I have no clue when you sent them :shrug: I asume that they were old or the message system was messed up yesterday. Anyhow , I had fun playing with everybody this past weekend.

Everybody but tynstar. He is an ass......(just kidding)

Thats alright. I don't see myself meeting up with anyone for the next 2 weeks at all really because i am going to play in the early afternoon during the week if i play at all and this weekend i got to my dads and he has dialup.

But it was fun to play with everyone and i look foreward to being able to play again.

@ Cap'n Actually the messages i sent were from the day before. Tynstar told me the system was screwed up.

:FU2:

Hey Tynstar we both own you remember our ranks are higher. :laugh:

Hmmmm I remember beating the both of you 3 games in a row. SCOREBOARD!!!!!! YOu losers just play more ranked games then me.

3 in row doesnt matter. I think I won our last slayer match :cannon:

When you , Anthony and I have played I have won more matches than any of you.  :ninja:

I don't think i have ever come in first place ever.

No you have not and you never will when playing Rick and I!!!!!!! :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:insomnia: Its because I play way to much Halo. :(

You seem so dissapointed by that.

Anyways you should have plenty of time to catch up and surpass my rank because i am only level 6 and 5 depending on the game type.
I might be able to get the tv from 9ish-10ish some night if i am really lucky this week.
So if Cap'n and Tynstar can be on between 7ish and 8ish your time we could get in a few games.
I don't really think it will happen but i will inform ahead of time if it does.

Sauza and Ngage are both in my timezone so if they are just on then it will be cool to play you guys too.

Don't play with Ngage till he joins our clan!

I don't think I will be able to play much this week. I am getting ready to move on Friday and Saturday.

Last night I played with tynstar and another clan member. We were doing ranked "team skirmish" matches and I had one of my best games ever !!!!!

We were playing classic capture the flag on Midship and I was doing base defense. I had 25 kills in a row without dying :redvsblue: And I got a medal I have never earned before :

Berserker
Award: Kill 20 opponents in a row without dying
Availability: All gametypes
Visual Representation: a gold 8 sided star
Difficulty Factor: 9


We won the match 3 flags to none thanks to my guys getting the flags and to me destroying anything coming at our base. :shooting: I had 21 medals in that game.
http://www.bungie.net/stats/richgame.aspx?g=17801302&mn=0&mx=556&v=100&p=1&zs=1

There was also a few more games where I had 17 medals and I think I had another last night with more than 20.

Good times !





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Very nice but you have to be signed in to view the link Cap'n.
D'oh

When do you guys plan on playing again and what time?
So i can try and get in on it.

I will be online tonight around 5 - 5:30 my time.

Jesus.  I knew you could check your stats online, but I didn't know you could get a detailed map of your kilss like that!  Guess where I'm going to be for the next hour or two.

You did and and the team did kick ass last night!!!!!

I f I get on tonight it will be late again say 9ish.

Yep ! Its awesome isnt it  :drool: Notice that all of my kills took place in the same spot. You would figure those idiots would have figured that out after 25 kills in a row. But I guess a shotgun blast to the face at short range doesnt really give them time to kill me  :)

If i didn't have a project due tomorrow i would definately be in tonight to play with you Cap'n.
But i have to get a mousetrap propelled car built by the end of the night.

This just in !!!!!!!


http://bungie.net/News/Story.aspx?link=86544DED-8864-4F2C-95BE-C290DF4E1FDC

More stuff added to live play  :)

Now we need new maps ! Read the link and enjoy. Everything that has been added makes me happy , especially team slayer :rock:

I thought something looked new. I guess i should try and get on after school tomorrow and get the new content.

Team Slayer will kick ass with our clan!!!!!!!

Team?
And yes... yes it will.
I had enough time for 2 matches today(16 minutes LOL)
I went up to rank 5 (or 6) in head to head.

I love playing Team Slayer, but lately I have been getting stuck with the worst teammates on Earth.  I hate it when I yell out "Hey everyone stick together, and everyone shoots out in different directions.   >:(
More often than not, I end up playing Batman by coming to thier rescue when one guy is up against three enemies.

I was lucky in my 2 team slayer matches to actually end up with teammates that stuck close together.
Actually the second game though was on Ascention  and I went lone wolf for a little while :) But thats my map where I do the best. (finished first)

I played with 2  <10 year old kids. They were really good teammates which surprized the shit out of me.

Played less this weekend  :o Actually had some stuff to do. But I did play with a few clan members and had fun.

Also was promoted from staff to overlord of the clan.  :)
That makes 5 overlords and with my staff position needing to be filled, I think I know who is getting a promotion in the clan ;)

WHO ME?
Anyways i was on last night no one else was it was rather boring.
Did play with some friends from school for about an hour.

Yeah , sorry about that. I was playing hockey and when I got home I was too tired to play Halo :o
I will be online tonight though

I won't its no biggy. I played. Went up a rank or 2. I will be on later today probably. Play some ranked stuff.

Does anyone know how to get a second gamer tag on your account?  I'm trying to set up my little brother with his own account, but I don't want him to have to shell out cash for something I already have.

BTW, In the next week or two he may be playing on my account, so keep that in mind when sending invites.

So he isnt as good as you ?

By the way for everybody here .... I will be playing alot on Friday night. (unless something comes up)

I too want to know about multiple gamertags on live because my brother is getting an Xbox for Xmas.
So it would be cool to dominate him in ranked matches and he wil want to play on his own.

No. not really.  I don't want him to go up against higher level  guys right off the bat.  Besides, I don't want to mess with my ranking.

WOW :o :o thats a shocker!!!!

He will also be playing Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thrusday, and Saturday night!

 :laugh:

:FU2:


Hey guys ...... Everybody in the Illinios Hicks was sent a clan invite from GuessWho. This will be our new clan because the other clan was cluttered with people we didnt know :o

We are going to try and keep this clan at or around 20 members. I made sure to give invites to tynstar , Izret and Sauza.

There wasnt any other friends of your in our clan was there ? Anyhow , try and be online a little this weekend if you can to meet the new condensed clan. (name of new clan is: Shut up you)

I should be on Friday and Saturday night around10 or 11pm Eastern till early in the morning. At least that is the plan.

BTW
Is that Nick1118 and Hightwiztid still in our clan?(If i even got their names right.)
They were fun to play and where pretty good too.

Nickm and Hightwiztid are still in our clan  :)
What we basically did was take the guys who seem to play more with the other clan members. Also if they were any good was a factor as well  ;)

I should be on for a little bit today, so I'll make sure to pick up that invite.  

I might be on again one day  :-/

Heads up ..... I am on alot  :o

Come join the clan for some fun. Even if your not a clan member , come play with us.

Sauza and Izret , you guys need to play some more ;)
Might have an inner clan tournament this weekend. (if not , in the next week)

I won't be on this weekend i am going to my dads. You remember he has dial up....

I'll be on this weekend.  I haven't had much time to play lately.

Also, I don't know if I've mentioned this yet (read: I'm to lazy to check the thread), but my little brother will be playing under my screen name until I set up his own account, so if you send me an invite and I don't respond, it's probably him.  I know this has happened at least once as I went to my messages last night and had about 80 unanswered messages.  Fun, fun, fun.

I probably asked this before to but . How do you set up another Live Tag?

You can do that through Bungie.net , I believe there is a link and a walk through on how to do it.

I mean for all games not just Halo 2. Or does that not matter.

Doh ! I actually mis-understood what you were asking.... I have no clue how to do that. Might be something answered about that on Xbox live in the FAQ section ?

I checked the Hell out of both sites, and I can't find anything.  If anybody does find out, let me know.

Call 1-800 4MY- XBOX

At least I think thats the number.

Was playing big team battle with 5 other clan members and Chevyguychvy last night. We werte doing really good. One game though drove us all nuts. We got stuck with this annoying kid with a high piched voice. He kept on signing Chickity china, Chinese chicken over and over again. It actually made my ears hurt. We all put him on mute eventually  ::)

He attacked me a little bit and I told him I would boot him if he betrayed me. Later in the game I took him off mute to see if he was still being a stupid little ass and all he was saying was "Can you hear me..." "Why wont you guys talk to me" I told him he was on mute and I was going to mute him again too  :D

In the post game report he did the same thing and the other team got pissed at him. I told the other team he wasnt in our group and suggested everybody leave the kid feedback for screeming  :P

All in all it was a good night though.

Nice story. 16 year old kids suck!!!!  :P

Yes 16 year old kids do suck... o wait fuck you guys.

He was singing One week by Bear Naked Ladies.
That song is another of me and Dans long running jokes.
Chickety china the chinese chicken you have a drum stick and your brain starts tickin watchin X files with no lights (....) I hope the smoking mans in this one like Harrison Ford im getting fratic like Sting im tantric like snickers garunteed to satisfy. Like Kurasawa i make mad films ok i don't make films but if i did they'd have a samuria.
Gotta get a set of better clubs find the kind with tiny nubs so that my hands arn't always flyin off the back swing. Get in tune with Sailormoon cuz that cartoon has got the boom anime babes that make me think the wrong things.

I bet he didn't get that much into it but i did. BTW (...) was a guys name who i can't remember.
I can only hope it makes you relive his singing.

I can't stand it when annoying little screws like that wont shut up on Live.  I was playing a little while ago and had some little prick say "I'm Tony Montagna (or however you spell Scarface's name) and I kill you" for the entire match.  and he was trying to do a Scarface impression the whole time that just made him sound like he was mentally handicapped.

Izret... Dont worry about the reliving of my pain. tynstar allready handled it for you. He e-mailed me the lyrics for the whole song yesterday to my work :cussing:


Sauza....The mute option does wonders :)

:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

It was really good to get back online and play against you guys again.
I should be on more now because i have a TV in my rom now and i wired my Xbox into the living room.

Sweet you got s TV in your room. Kiss your live goodbye!

Why its not like i went to sleep last night at 4 and woke up today at 11 or anything....

Man I remember those days! |D

I wish I could find time to get on Live.  Maybe this week.

On another note, my little brother finally got his own live account, so he won't have to use mine anymore.

I am on and off all day. Its good to have 2 weeks off.  |D

I should probably hop on in the day.
I haven't been doing my english paper so i might as well do something constructive... like level up.

What is your current highest ranking on Halo 2 ?
Mine is a 13 in Big team battle. When it comes to planting the bomb on Headlong I'm the man ! (some thanks to tynstar)

I hover around 10 or close to 11 in nearly every category with the exception being head to head.
I am only a 3 in this one because I never play it. I have played it 3 times and have 2 wins.

I heard from one of my friends (Lightbody 11) that all of the rankings were wiped out.  Is this right?  

I was at a level 9 in Team slayer and Rumble Pit.

I know Rumble Pit was last week as of Monday night the other rankings had not been reset.

It was a rumor gone bad. I guess Bungie said they had a slight problem with the stats (a bug or something) and it wiped everybodies rumble pit out.

I looked last night and saw everything was back to normal  :)

So i should be over a 10 now that means on Rumble Pit.

Unfortunately I am probably going to drop my live account for awhile.  :(
I don't have 50 bucks to spend on it right now.

Nooooooooooooo !!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sell something !

Your soul unless you have already sold that.

49.99 BIN on ebay. I dont think anybody bought it though  ;)

Twice but hell it is worth another shot right?

I am going to cancel before then end of the week though. I think my sub will run out before the next time i will play.
I will sign up again and i will give everyone my new  gamertag.

You should give Guesswho the heads up though. Tell him i will be getting a new tag within the next 3 weeks. When i sign up with a new one drop my old name from the clan. Until then leave it there. Never know what might happen.

So in the last week of playing I have come up against a new strategy twice that has really pissed me off.
On the Headlong map during assualt (plant the bomb)
the other team will take the bomb and hide with it if we are ahead. One of the times we had a game last 1 and a half hours because the other team flew the bomb up on top of the building  >:( We finally got him and when we won they were dicks about it.

The purpose behind this stategy is to make the other team quit if you are behind. If you quit you finish last even if you were ahead ....... >:(

At one point we were ahead 2 - 0 and it was thier last time on offense so they hid and wanted us to quit. I took the Banshee and flew to the top of a building so they couldnt take it  :king: Basically we went around looking for the bomb and didnt even defend the base because even if they scored we would have won.

After about 20 minutes we found the guy holding the bomb and the game was over. What makes matters worse is the other team chews us out ??? FOR WHAT ?????? Beating your stupid strategy that involves no skill ? :cussing:

Anyhow , thats my rant.

Yes that has become the new form of cheating i guess you could say. I would have given them all a bunch of negative feedback for being dicks.

At least you know how to stop it now.

On another semi-related topic, do you guys consider it cheating or cheap in any way if you hide somewhere and kill anybody that wanders in front of you, and then go back into hiding again?  I managed to squeak in two games yesterday for the first time in a month so I was quite rusty and that was the only way that I could stay competitive.  I felt dirty the whole time I was doing it though.

I did. :)  Muwahahahahaha

Sauza : No I dont consider it cheap because in a slayer type match its kill or be killed.

I don't consider it cheating.

On a side not I think my Halo playing days are going to be very limited. The game just pisses me off. All the cheaters and cheap ass players. Until Bungie fixes those problems I won't be playng much. Only "Dawn of the Dead" type matches.

You can still play team slayer matches without coming across cheaters :) On a side note , I am almost a 14 again in big team battle and almost a 13 in team slayer.

Still I suck and you guys are all to high a level so it really is not fun. I don't want to take all the time playing to get to be a level 12-15.

Dude ! you do not suck.... You can beat me ;) And I am one of the best in our clan. Your just mad because you killed me when I had the bomb  "BETRAYAL"

No big deal.

I hate chearters and all I like to play is slayer and you guys like to play other stuff. Hell even the last time I played a slayer I really didn't have any fun and my team won.

When we do the team stuff i get killed a 3-4 times in a sitting at least. Sometimes much more though.

I still haven't cancelled my subscription so i hope to play this weekend. If i am home this weekend that is.

Bungie drops the BANHAMMER !!!!!!!!!!

http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=weeklywhatsjan14

For all of the honest players out there in halo2 , take note that your feedback does work ! Make sure all members of your party leaves feedback on a cheating team or person. Also , player can recieve short bannings for cursing and racism  :)

The Banhammer has fallen , I only hope it continues to fall .....Again , again , again .....ect

Good I hope it works. But now will there be anyone to play against? MAybe I will start to play again.

That is great and all but what happens to people who lie? Say you are in a match do the bomb trick other team loses thinks you cheated? Well your banned thats what.

There was one guy screaming as loud as he could into the mic for the whole match so i sent like 8 negative feedback messages one would have sufficed but it REALLY pissed me off. Hope he is banned for all eternity.

Well there is a record of what you did in the match so it can be checked out.

Use the mute feature it is wonderful.

No , if you read all of the artical and all of the questions from gamers. Then you would see that Bungie can determine who is "glitching" and who is actually using the router cheat. Therefore people who glitch ( while it is annoying) will not be banned.

Shouldn't the glitches be eastyier to fix the the modem cheat? I wish they would fix all the glitches because I think that is cheating as well.

True , but not everybody can do the modem "stand-by" and everybody knows these glitches. You can defend against glitchers and there is no defens against the stand byers :P

I think some of the coming updates will fix the glitches  :)

All of the glitches i know of are cool. Adds a new unexpected level of play to the game.

I disagree. I still see it as a cheat. Not on the same level as the modem cheat.

so what are some of these glitches?  are they all related to online play? I've only played Halo2 multiplayer once. I've got a buddy who plays online a lot. the only time we played together he thrashed the rest of us. I hope to provide a better challenge next time.

Grabbing things thru walls and floors, homing in with the sword from massive distances, jumping huge distances. There are others though but those are the ones i run into the most.

are those online only or can you do that in regular multiplayer? just looking for any advantage, my buddy wreaks havoc with that damn plasma sword. especially in the close quarters maps.

I don't know if they are only online or not, but most of them wont help much in a slayer match.  They really only help in objective matches.

Good lord man ! You mean to tell me you can play Halo 2 offline  :o Seriously though , the glitches in which we refer to would only help in flag and bomb type matches.  :P

You can try jumping when he is charging you sao he launches way away. But that is risky because it requires wicked good timing. So more or less your best be will be to run backwards and shot as fast as you can with dual weapons and hope to win or grab a shotgun and hope your trigger finger is faster than his.

Dual magnums (pistols) work good against the sword if you are backing up.


Also use the plasma pistol and charge it all the way and fire it when you have a lock on him. when it hits his shield will be down and your other weapon can finish the job.

I will have my Xbox hooked back up by the end of the night or much sooner.
So when are you guys playing usually now so i can hopefully get some matches in again.
I should be able to get on almost anytime friday.

5 - 10 my time during the week I am on and off. Kind of hit and miss.  ;)

Thats what 7-12 here.
Sounds like my time frame :)
It will be good to get back into the game a bit.
BW Tips and Tricks is on their second issue running Halo 2 tips and unfortunately all of the ideas we used i think are in there. I didn't read the article yet but based on he screenshots they had it looked like all the stuff we took the time to figure out. :-/
Flag bounce, the other people who would jump off with the ball, the spot on collosus for oddball there were 4 or 5 others too. I was actually dissapointed that they did their job well....

Well there goes the advantage over noobs :P
Oh well , as long as people dont use stand by then my team always has a chance to win  :D

I figured anyone who cares is going to see it in here so rather than start a new thread.

It is talking about the DVD that came with the Halo 2: LCE. I have yet to even watch it so i am going to have to try this as soon as i can use the DVD player.

Cool I will have to give it a try.

I completely forgot about the bonus disk that came with that.  Time to watch!

Me too ! I think my Halo 2 has left the Xbox a couple of times and even then it was temporary and I put it in the Mechassualt case :-/

whoa, i havent been here in a while, didnt know i was in such high demand

Finally made it back upto a 15 in Big team battle after getting knocked down to a 13. Lost a bunch of games due to stand by and unfortunate events.

But soon I will be in the top 1000 players at big team battle. :)

Your mama must be so proud!!  :P

How is that black eye of your doing Scott ?

I got a chance to play Halo2 online last night. I was ata buddies and he has an account. since he signed us in as guests we were limited to what we could play. I think the one we played was called rumble training. It was a bunch of annoying little kids making stupid comments. One of our guys did allright. He was at 23 kills when someone hit 25 to end the game. I only had one. it seemed like everytime I respawned there was someone directly behind me. it was brutal.

??? What are you talking about? Me killing you?

Rumble Pit can be brutal Den.
What map did you play on?
I am going to guess Ascension.(It has a huge "satellite" like bowl in the midle of the map)
Also what level is your friend?
That will influence the level of the people you play against.
Playing a Level 9 or 10 (or higher) is totally different than playing against level 4 or 5s.
In some cases even 1 level of differance can be a huge change in the skill.

we only did 2 maps. Beaver Creek and Midship. I don't know what level he is. We had to go in as guests so I'd guess that was lower level players. I guess the 2 times I'd played were not sufficient preparation. It was the first time I'd had more than 3 other people shooting at me.

So glad i decided to play tonight.
It more or less sucked.

I will just spend the rest of the night waiting for a party invite because leveling up in team matches is not nearly as fun with people you don't know.

Hit both ends of the spectrum today.
Stereotypical peurto rican/black person when doing a small amount of stuff with clan members. Which was annoying but somewhat entertaining.
To a racist white supremacist redneck hick who kept yelling some rather racist shit at the black guy who was playing for no reason.
He did that no more than 2 times before i had some words for him. He  asked me if i was going to cry the rest of the people told him to shut his mouth (not in so many words) and he did so for the rest of the game. Until the rankings page that is.
He had plenty of time to spout off during the first disconnect then the second when we had the third i cut him off mid "Hey monkey lips" right when the blue screen came up.

I hope he gets hit by a convoy.

Yeah , it was good playing with you again. Dont be a stranger now ;)

That Choob guy in the clan is an idiot ::)

Ya he is off the wall.

If i can get on it wil be between 2:30-4 eastern time so i probably won't catch up with you for awhile longer.

I ended up going on around 10 pm last night and played 2 or 3 matches with GuessWho we played some ranked Team Slayer and he is still getting back into the game so we lost but it was still alot of fun.

Made it to level 16 in Big team battle the other day.
Very soon I will be back in the top 1000 Halo2 players for this category :)

I talked to your mom and she is very proud of you.

:'( you made me cry Scott......... :fu:

I was playing with a Irish guy named Niall8r yesterday.
He was pretty good and his friends were fun to play against.

I played with alot of people from outside the US yesterday. It was strange. Could i have been on another server or something?

If you play in the morning or early afternoon you will catch players from across the pond.

I am making a new custom game type this weekend called Escape from Alcatraz or something to that effect.

I have been playing between 2:30 and 5 Eastern for the last week.

I have never played against as many people from outside of the US though.

Then i played a few rounds with Blazin, Cream, Lazy, 4 others and myself.

For awhile when it was just 7 of us we were going into Rumble Training pretending we didn't know eachother and then in game we would focus on the guy we didn't know.

Tons of fun. A few of the guys we played against were good sports about it too.

One guy almost one even with 25 deaths. Blazin pulled ahyead in the end by killing everyone else.

Watch out for a player named T3am Slay3r

He and some other friends were all cheating in head to head.

Everytime i got a good weapon he would put on standby on his 4 thousand dollar motherboard and  apparantly worked for Bungie.

Check out his stats page.
http://bungie.net/Stats/PlayerStats.aspx?player=T3am%20Slay3r
Something really fucked up going on here.

Here is another name but this isn't the T3amSlay3r i played against
http://bungie.net/Stats/PlayerStats.aspx?player=T3amSlay3r

I played for the first time in 6 weeks for maybe an hour. I now remember why I stopped playing.

Dude , it was fun and you did well in that sniping match :)

Also I would like to welcome Laurel to the list of Halo 2 players here at RF Gen. |D

Yes i hope to meet up to play her soon...

And Scott if you play with just people we know it will be pretty fun.

I did play with people I know. The sniper match was fun. The otehr match I hit poepl point blank with a shotgun and they dont die turn around and kill me with one shot piss's me off. Or when I die and I have no idea why that irks me as well.

I will play more but not for long periods of time. Plus everyine has still played and are getting better.  When I played a lot I still sucked.

That zombie game we use to play was cool.

Next time we all play I will hook it up with a game of Zombie...AKA Dawn of the Dead

Sounds good to me.

AKA T Virus AKA Resdent Evil


I played some head to head matches and got paired up with a level 10.I am level 6.


Problem? Yes.

I actually like playing against people that are a higher level than me.  It gives me a bigger challenge, and if I lose I'm not losing as many points compared to losing to a same level player.

I haven't played in a while either.  Maybe I'll get on sometime this week.

I got owned BAD by the "n00b" combo. Plasma Pistol and Battle rifle in head to head on Beaver Creek.
It was 10-0 the guy was a 14 rank outside of his 6 on H2H. He wasn't a dick though after he toom some time to chat with me wished me good luck on the rest of my games and then we went our sperate ways. 1 kill was with the sniper rifle and one was with dual SMGs when i had spawned.

Played this really really strange variation of Juggernaut today.
Everyone hid and Juggernaut had to run around and find them and if they saw you they would yell taunts at you.
It was stupid.
I ended up winning the only game i played because everyone didn't know what they were doing at thew begining and i took everyone out with shotguns. (The only usable weapon)

Later they did a match were Juggernat had a Sword and everone had pistols and i don't know what was on map because i quit.

It wasn't all that bad.

@ Laurel
Make suer Rick lets you in on some tricks of the trade. I will share what i know with you but he knows a hell of alot more than me.

@ Rick what was the Lock Out protection everyone was talking about last time i played with the clan?

Right now I'm just tryin to get my aim down but I'm learning my way around the maps quickly. Too bad I don't know location names or I could be of more help when playing team stuff. Gonna play some single player or random games later tonight I think. Work on my aim a bit.

@Anthony : Lock out or "Lock in" protection is basically a way to make sure you do not get locked into a game where you are not the host.

You do it by having a member of your party go to the "leave party" screen and if you are not host and the configuring game screen comes up (the number 3) then that person backs out and he will cause your whole party to back out of the game. If he doesnt do it right then he may quit out and leve you a man short for the game. :-/



Played a few new game type variations last night before I had to head out to hockey. Chevyguy made a few new types : Retardo3000 and Tremmors.

Retardo3000 is basically a form of juggernaut where if you become the jug you have asome time to change your thumbstick layout to legacy southpaw and let the stupidity begin. Its hard to control the Retardo3000 when you have it....

Tremmors is basically you have 2 teams on Coagulation. a red team and the blue team. The red team can  be as many as 12 people and the blue team up to 4. the blue team drives ghost and can only splatter people. the "humans" start at one base top and try to reach the other base on foot without being  run over.

Everybody should play this weekend ! Custom games will be fun , also have to finish my clan tournament.
Laurel , I will get you a clan invite out today.

Welcome in advance to the clan Laurel.

99.9% chance i will not be on this weekend. My dad has dialup.

Aaawww, a clan invite. I didn't think you guys took sucky players...hehe :girl: Well the good news is, I just got done playing some matchmaking and I lowered my sens to 1. I'm hitting 45% or better and I took 2nd and 3rd in the two games I played! I'm gonna prolly play all damn night after my pizza gets here and I eat it. It's on the way now. I got the house to myself most of the night, perfect for some Halo.

This one dude was like aw man, the girl got me again. It cracked my shit up. I was like chill yo, I only been playin a few days. Gimme time...heh

Nope I am in the clain so shitty players are OK!

I was playing some head to head (and pretty much losing more than half of them)
But i played a match with this one guy and he got a kil off them i one 10 straight.
So he says good game and we go our seperate ways(i have no mic ATM)

Next game we i start up and go figure who it is?
The guy i just beat! Not even a match apart it was the very next one.
He got irritated after 3 kills and quit.
I sent him a message and he is now on my buddy list.
Too bad i couldn't really chat with him.

Thats cool Anthony. I dont play much head to head.
I think I have played 7 games and won 6. :-/

Oh what an unsightly belmish that one loss must be!

I wish there was a way to clear your ranikings.
I would start over at 1s and no wins or losses

I don't think my rankings are too bad considering I've only been playing for a week. The plan is to eventually be at least a 20.

Good to see you have your sights set high  :)
I could probably make it to a 20 , but I like to goof around mostly.

She wants to beat the highest ranked girl in Hao 2.
A 14 year old mind you.

She's a 22 and yea, 14. Normally I'd feel bad about wanting to beat the snot out of a kid but if she's the best then dammit I wanna beat her. I don't care if she cries to mommy afterward either! >:-)

Its good to be so young and have time to play this game enough to be that good.

Halo 2 the job we all love.  :-/

http://www.tiscali.co.uk/games/news/2003/11/27/reallifehalotestdriveawarthog.html

Real life Hog  |D

That concept is so so cool.

That thing would cost a fortune.

I can't imagine what someone would pay for a real life model that was even closer to the Xbox one.

Played last night (suprise) and leveled Blazin Younguns upto level 19 in team slayer. I leveled myself upto level 14 in team slayer as well :)

We played our first match against a group that stand byed us several times until Blazin un hooked his ethernet cord and somehow the other team lagged out  |D

I would like to get the team slayer rank into the high teens..... However one match I had 1 kill :-[ We did win however :) Sucks when you cant find a good weapon  ::)

Man is that the truth.

That is awesome that Blazin was able to get back at those jackasses with something so simple.

It was horrible ! We were on Colosus and anytime we started to get a big lead (4 or 5 kills) they would kick in the stand by :cussing: It felt really crappy to find myself spawned in another spot and know that they killed me.

I cant believe 3 of them were stand bying though..... Because 3 of them lagged out and one was left. The one left found us and said he had nothing to do with it. We told him if he quit we would not report him for cheating as well ;) He quit and we recieved double win points |D

I was playing with some guys who did that.
I mae sure i told the other team while the game was going on who was doing it.

It was a JohnnyTapia style move.(At least i think that was his name...)
Ran at them let them know who was cheating and helped them.

It ended in a tie even with the 2 dudes on my team cheating.

That real "Hog" is cool looking.

Hell yeah it is ! I would love to own one  :D

Welcomes Sensei_Fu into the Halo 2 madness :)

Heh, well thanks for the welcome.  I know I'm not nearly as good as some of you, but  I'm practicing, so watch out.  

I just started a new Clan with some friends.  Any advice for a relative noob on how to get organized and improve quickly?  

Starting a clan can be tough.... Sure the perks of being an overlord are nice :P But getting a solid group of people who wont argue and compliment each others skills is tough. Not to mention people who are both good at the same thing (sniping) In my clan I have 4 really good snipers , but  2 of them are better than the others. Anyhow , look me up on live tonight and I will give you some advice.  ;)

I have some general clan advice that should carry over to any game...

Don't take people in based on skill alone. Play with them for a bit to make sure that you A: work well together and B: can tolerate them. Being that there are so many n00bs around it may not hurt to pick up some lower level players that are really into it and want to do something with it. That way folks can learn and improve together ;) Just don't pick up everyone that says lemme join your clan. Make sure they actually want to play first. A weeklong tryout period prolly wouldn't hurt. All the teams I've ever been captain of had a 2 week tryout, half the time without the rookie knowing it was a tryout. Takes the pressure off them a bit and lets em have some fun with it.

So not really multiplayer related but kinda I suppose. Where the hell was everyone tonight? I mean like -nobody- was around after 9ish. I played Halo 2 for 12 hours straight today but mostly single player. I'm halfway through and I got sooo damn lucky!

So when I was after the heritic (playing as the elite) I ran out of ammo totally. I couldn't find a replacement weap or any ammo so I had to fight my way out of there strictly by stickin em. I firmly believe that had I not been used to playing with peeps that kick the living shit out of me I wouldn't have had a chance in hell...heh I used the sword through the whole thing till the end too. I'm getting pretty decent with it.

Anyways it's 2:16am here now. If anyone's still awake and tryin to play some Halo lemme know. I doubt I'll be sleeping anytime before the sun rises. Halo owns me...hehe

http://bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=weeklywhatsmar18&p=2645901

A small list of fixes and and additions Bungie says they are implementing.

I am especially happy about the bit for cheaters.
As for the glitches like sword flying, flag bouncing and grabbing thru walls that is kind of a dissapointment. But in the end it makes the game more skill based than trick based.

I don't care what they do as long as we can still go to McDonald's and other nifty places.

Laurel and Sensei_Fu .....

I went hard on you both last night in that team slayer match on the Mounds. I was just trying to push you both. Playing tough competition is part of the game and you both want to get better. Most of the time I "fluff" off when playing with friends , but you both have been asking to get better. Anyhow , I am sure it was frustrating......  :ninja:

For me not really. I really appriciate that you don't take it easy on me cause I'm a chick and a n00b. I don't want no easy kills. I wanna earn em.

If Bungie can get rid of all cheats and glitches I think the game is that much better.

I kinda figured you had the gloves off since you got 45 out of 50 kills by yourself in team slayer.  

I just want to get better, and there doesn't appear to be a wealth of info on how to do it.  

CN, if you have time, I'd like to chat with you later about some things.  

Catch me on live and we can chat.

Anyone know teh trade in value of Halo 2?

Sacrilege!!!!  May the great Ring show mercy for your soul.  

A few bucks, You should of got 007 for 64!!! :)

OK you have lost it.  :laugh:

I was thinking more like a great shooter..... Like Night Stalker for the Intellivision.

God I hate cheaters.  I got cheated on last night in a capture the flag team skirmish map with stand by.  Death is too good for these asshats.  

Heretic!!!

it was a gift from me and his wife so he cant do this....It would be against the rules. :P

getting worse. Man you need to unplug!

okay, "asshats" is another one of those terms like "teh" or "pwned" or "kewl" that bug the snot out of me.

An asshat is one who participates in asshattery

that includes all incarnations of the word. you can take your "asshat" and shove it up your "asshole".

I type "teh" all the time but I don't mean to do it.

And I pwn j00 all :P

grrrrrr!

How about Butt Pirate?  

You just can't play Halo without using gems such as "assrapeage"

and analblast

I just wanted to post that Antimind is getting a lot better.  

Yes she is..... She is working hard at it and playing alot of matches with me and the clan. :)

Yup. Rehab will do that for ya.

Ya it surprised me how well you did in that Rumble Pit match the other night.
I was just dicken around most of the game until i saw you were like 5 ahead of me then i did my best to catch up in the fleeting 2 minuttes of the game.

Keep it up and you will take out that 14 year old in no time.

Were you there in the sniper match with nick? I think it was with your buddies? When we arrived the leader had 19 kills. By the time he hit 25 both me an nick had 7. I'm gettin pretty quick with that thang :girl:

I will play you in a sniper match.

You would rape me in a sniper match.

I have been getting a bit better on my sniping. I think if the 3 of us played it would be relatively close.
Unless i am underestimating myself or Anti.

Well boys only one way to find out. I'm game if you're huntin.

I definitely need to practice my sniping, a lot.  

I was in a couple of big team battles and nobody wanted to snipe.  You can't win Big Team Battle on Coagulation without having a good sniper.  

or 4 ;) Seriously..... You need to have many guys who can snipe a tick off a dogs nose so your bases are covered. I have several good snipers in the clan , but we know who gets the sniper in the game. (mostly) Like some teams , we do not fight over weapons......

Yup. Everyone knows their job. Mine seems to be decoy, human shield, or pimp the n00b combo...hehe ;)

Actually human shield ain't no joke. I saved nick's ass good last night cause I knew he had a better chance than I did. I think if I give up a kill in favor of saving a far better player to assrape the leftovers we'll do a lot better.

Don't worry about it i put myself into the huma shield/decoy position.

I will run headfirst into any fight and get the asist so someone else can get the kills.
My one death to the enemies 3 seems like a fair trade off to me.

And i will try to get on tonight between 10 and 11 Eastern and get a few matches in.

And as for everyone knowing what weapons to get i always go for the swords and rockets and everyone hates me for it.

I dont think they hate you for getting them..... I think they hate the betrayals that follow you getting the rockets :P

BR PP combo works for me  ;)

I get betrayed more than anyone on all of Xbox live.
And maybe 1 or 2 times in a whole sesion of live will i betray someone with rox unless on purpose
And i mean people in general hate me getting rockets and sword.

Then they start yelling about me being a noob.

As I see it, I need practice in the rumble pit (tho I hate individual matches as it rewards those who are reckless and get killed a lot) because my aim isn't near good enough.  I'm a killer with the PR, SMG combo because I'm not forced to go for headshots.  I'm damned near useless with the BR.  

I also need sniper training, as I can't always have the one Clan guy who's a sniping wiz having the rifle.  The problem with playing "snipers" is that everybody switches how they play so it isn't a realistic set up.  

My sensitivity is at 5 which makes sniping ridiculously hard, but I feel that when I set it low I can't turn and burn in close firefights.

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=618283#618283618283

Halo 2 tourny over at digitpress. I suggest you all enter ;)

I've signed up. Public embarrassment of the year coming right up. Thanks Rick! :dunce:

So I've suggested some team stuff too but only if we on the same team if they wanna go there. You, me, Scott, an Terz could so rock em  :shooting:

I wonder how I will do in this tournament ? Sometimes spawn placement and weapon hoarding can be enough to beat a skilled player.  :shrug:

You'll be great. Just remember: sniper, rox, whorage. To put it simply just play your game :P I really don't think you have much to worry about. I'm totally screwed though.

We will see.
I joined up so i definately want to do some training when i can.
I doubt i will be able to play unless it is late night-very early morning (preferably weekend) or i luck out.

If there was any team stuff that would be real cool too.

I'll gladly train with you dude. We gotta find out exactly when this thing is and like the entire week before train hardcore for it >:-)

I spent the past few hours playing nothing but head to head and played a bit last night too. It's my fav gametype atm. What I can't stand is rockets. Far as I'm concerned they have no place in a head to head match. They're total bullshit. I really hate Beaver Creek too.

If anyone's interested, here's my stats for a match on Foundation using nothing but Magnum and SMG >:-)

http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?panel=stats&gameid=127071079&player=Ant1m1nd

Rockets do suck in a head to head match , but you either get them or dont...... If I know I am playing a rocket whore on Beaver then I just PP him and then BR  :beating: tsk (three shot kill)

I know you guys think "Captain Rockets" or Captain Whorage"  ::) But thats not the case ......mostly

Unless if a guy wants to make a deal with me before the game for no rockets i will hop on those right away.
Especially on Beaver Creek and Ascension.

I also head straight for the sword and shotgun on Lock Out and the sword on Midship if that is gone i grab shotty.

I am a Rocket/Sword/Shotgun Whore depending on the level.
But my enemies get pissed off because of it but i don't really care.
I don't play to have people love me.

My whole problem with head to head is that I think it should be a skill based gametype strictly. Unfortunately 80% of the time it all comes down to who gets the cheap ass weaps first. Lucky ass spawns are total bullshit.

True skill comes from being able to kill the guy with the cheap ass weapons.

In match making I couldnt agree more....
If you dont use them , someone else will. Until they take these weapoms out then I would rather own them then get owned by them :-/

I honestly dont "whore" those weapons however.... I have enough skill to beat people 1 on 1 :shooting:

I just posted my thoughts on map selection for the DP tourney. Basically said why not have the people playing in the match agree on the map. I think that would be nice.

I signed up.  I'm gonna get pummeled.

woohoo! I hope I play you so I can at least get past the first round :P j/k

I wonder who will win and what everybodys skill level will be  ???

I won fairly easily,,,

10-2 and 10-4

I felt sorry for him and took it easy on him in the second game :-/

I hope there is a match where I can unleash all of my skill. (end ego trip)

If i didn't drop it would be me.
I think you will have a fair challenge with wcmiker and atleast 1 other.

wcmiker is a no show thusfar and is my free ticket to round 2. Rick has no competition.

He showed and he kicked my ass 10-2 both rounds. We played one on Foundation and the other on Midship...

I dunno what the hell just got into me but went into head to head and decided that the next guy I played was goin down no matter what. I beat the snot out of this dude so bad it wasn't even funny. Decided to try my luck at some FFA. Got thrown into a game with 7's-9's (I'm a 5) and had a hellafied lead till the end. Lost by 3 but damn was it a good game.

As a nOOb, I've heard about the PP + BR combo. What exactly IS it? I'm guessing that you are armed with only the Plasma Pistol and if you connect, you hit "Y" to switch to an equipped Battle Rifle for the finisher??? Please correct me if I'm wrong.

By the way, anyone wanting to play H2, my gamertag is the same, phoenix1967. Please let me know yours; BTW, can I just type them into my friends list???

The gamertag thread is here:
http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=classic;action=display;num=1099668731

I'm Sensei Fu.  

I'm still working on the PP and BR combo myself.  Some of the big advantages of it is that you can kill from a decent range, it's fast, and you can still throw grenades.  

I think i tried that combo once long ago.
I never really went for it. I hate it, but i use to hate the BR itself and i am getting pretty good with that. Just need a bit of practice.

If i ever get stuck in a BR duel on Head to Head though when one of us dies i will go straight for the dual magnums.

And Pheonix i will sen you over a friend request when i get home.

Yes , the Br/Pp combo is the plasma pistol then switch to the Br quickly..... Hit with a head shot and they die instantly ;)

If you plan on being any good when you are a higher level you must learn to switch fast and get head shots.

PP / magnum works the same way.

It sucks that a tournament had to pop up when I get to go up north for more than the weekend.  Oh well.

We should run our own later.
May want to be a bit more structured.

Having our own tournament would be cool. I suggest Laurel set it up because she rocks at that sort of thing.

I think maybe some 2 on 2 stuff or team stuff would be cool as well.

I might sit the tournamnet out however.... :-/

Naw, you have to be in.

If we do have a tournament here, I might be able to get one or two of my fr4iends join in too.  They aren't the best at the game, but it would be more bodies.

I could set somethin like that up since I've been nominated (thanks for the extra workload shithead :P ).

2vs2 would be great too but there is no I in team, there are 2 in Antimind however. Oh snap there's 2 I's in Captain Nintendo too so guess I got my teammate. Pwnz0r dem n00bs....heh >:-)

LOSER!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'd rather be a loser than be you! :P j/k

I will be on your team Scott.
We may lose but we will lose with style.

If we could hold out till i get a mic again too that woulod be ideal :)
Or not i could...

We dont need to rush anything... Think about set up and how to pair the single player brackets.

Maybe have a skills competition of sorts ?

Skill competition so you can ego trip to Iraq and back? ;)

I want to try a match against Rick on Lockout.
He would probably beat me but i think i would give him a good run for his money.

That is until he got going with the BR combo.

No , cool stuff like maybe a warthog race around waterworks or how many rockets can you dodge in a banshee... Maybe a sniping round or sticky grenade game  :)

That sticky grenade game idea i had was sick.

I like that idea.
I need to make that a custom game sometime.

Good night last night for fun. Big team battle rocked and team skirmish was sooo easy for us.


On a side note , the DP tournament is all messed up IMO.....

It needs to be reconfigured :-/

As I see it now (no offense to anybody left in the tournamnet) , It will be me versus wcmiker in the finals.

And wcmiker is pretty damn good from what I have witnessed.

I actually had fun playing last night.

Well in that case i call wcmiker winning.

I had me and him in the finals but i am not in the tourny and now you are so it has to be changed up.

I didnt say I couldnt beat him , just that he is damn good. It will be all about who gets the better weapons.

It's a really tough one to call. I think even with better weaps it could go either way.

I've got a few buds coming over Saturday night for a little Halo2. gotta practice so if I ever get Xbox live I can thrash all you bastards. right now I'd be the one to get seriously thrashed.

Rick will you play Anthony 1 vs 1 so you can kick his ass. He has done a lot of talking about how good he is. Or at least get Mickm to play him.

If thats what Anthony wants... I guess I will hand his ass to him ;)

I don't care if thats what he wants beat his ass!

Nothing prepares you for Halo 2 on Live IMHO.  

I'm finding that I am not enjoying Halo as much as before mostly because I'm tired of playing with idiots or with idiotic custom games.  

I joined a game recently on Coagulation.  It was shotguns only.   ::)

Yeah great, I'll spend 5 minutes running towards the other guy so we can start shooting 10 feet away.  Oh, sign me up for that.  

Halo 2 on live can be a pain in the ass. But I think its positives are more than its negatives.

I find some people take things too seriously , while others constantly clown around. There are way to many whiners playing.....

Its a game that takes time to become skilled and it is better to learn with a group playing at a lower level IMO.
At a lower level you can make mistakes and not get owned.

I find that it's better to play with folks at a higher level and adapt to the assrapage. You'll not only learn faster and adapt to a higher level of play but you'll learn to lose with dignity.

how can you learn by getting killed every 10 seconds? Rick at times you can be one of those people that take it too serious  :P
I am I one of those whiners.

I agree , I can take it too serious. :( Sometimes I see a mistake and think WTF ? ! ? But we all make mistakes.

You can take your mistakes too seriously Scott. Remember that betrayal on Zanzibar a long time ago ? ;)

Sometimes you shouldnt be so hard on yourself.

I have found my groove lately and things are easy and I am not taking it so seriously.

I don't take myself too seriously you ass hat!!! So PISS OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! >:(

I don't know, I've only played a few times but it seems like learning the maps is the first thing to do.

I've done better on the maps that are more wide open or that I've played enough to be familiar with. I've found myself going in circles on the ones I didn't know.

I will have to look at his stats before making my final descision. But when you say someone is good it is usually because there is a good chance you will be beaten by them.


Scott you still owe me a 1vs1 from way back when it was the first time i had no mic and you would have decimated me. As for 1v1 with Cap'n im up for it. I have no fear of loss. If your going to talk trash talk big is my thinking. I also think Nick isbetter than Capn in 1v1 when he decides to take the game seriously.


Shit and i missed out?
I am so dissapointed.
I want to get a huge sticky grenda match on Midshipand/or Lock out toget going. It would let my get some good training in plus it is fun IMO.



Thats not really surprizing.
Sometimes the smaller maps can be harder to learn too. (Midship)
Another thing too is after learning the maps you have to learn all the different names for locations.
Some of them have 2or3 different names. (Some may havemore but i can't thin of any right now)

Hey Izret, I sent you a friend request. Let me know if you got it.

Ivory Tower is probably the toughest map that they designed due to the fact that it has so many nooks and crannies...and that the designer idiots also put a sword on it!

Personally i think Ivory Tower is a pretty cool level.

I will check my friend request when i get home.
I probably won't be able to play you until at least Sunday, probably later.

I vory Tower can be a bitch if somebody hoards the rockets..... *cough*Izret*cough*

Anybody ever play bumper cars on Coagulation?  I don't understand why people like that game type.  

I probably have.
Don't remember for sure but i have played some pretty strange game types.

As for whoring the rockets you point is?
I also go right for the sword.

That level has so many different weaps though you can almost always get a good combo going.

Not all games have a point or may be fun to others.
I assume this is the game where a person stands in the middle and trys to "jack" the other vehicle before he gets killed ?

@ Sensei - that kinda thing is good for a break after a long stretch of ranked games.

I agree , sometimes its good just to screw around or do fun glitches.

I hate just doing match making,match making,match making.......

I love doing nothing but straight ranked matches. Even when I lose. Must be the Slav in me though. We're known for neverending wars and never submitting even when we know it's over...lol

Here's a trick I found, it may already have been mentioned elsewhere (and may be viewed as unsporting) but here it is.

Messing around with the Headlong map, I discovered that if you get a sniper rifle and lift off in a Banshee, there's a building that you can reach with a flat rooftop where you can park. This building is behind where the 2 hogs are far from the water.  When you get out and walk around the roof there's an excellent view for sniping across most of the map, and no one can reach you unless they also have a beam/sniper rifle/rocket launcher.

Heh your a bit late on that one your right.
There are tons and tons of litle nooks and crannies.

I am sure if you played with any of us we could show you some tricks of the trade.

Hey Phoenix, keep an eye out for a friend request from Ant1m1nd :girl:

I recall being the "victim" of this messing around.

Well...I did spread it around to also "victimize" Ray and Jim in our game.

Den, by the way, on Saturday Ray mentioned that he's on XBox Live. Does he know about rf?

I've told him about it, more in egards to the classic stuff though. I'll direct him to the Halo stuff.

I see this as cheating.

Well eventually he would run out of ammo. And you could always hide inside a building so the sniper could not get you.

And if you get enough people thorwing grenades up there you can kill the person up there ;)

Or you can get another vehicle shooting up there.
It isn't cheating.
The guy got up there because he was allowed to get up there IMO :)

Well if you are sniping then you are near the edge so you can be killed so that is OK. But I have seen people go up there and then go to the back  corner and you cant touch them then. the just hide. That pisses me off.

what would be the benefit to just hiding? I admit I don't know all the game variants but don't you need to kill as well as avoid being killed?

Yes. And if you know the sniper is up thee .... Then its a matter of time before he or she sticks out enough to be hit by the other sniper :sniper:

It isn't cheating. It's just very very cheap and total BS.

I dont know if I would go as far as total BS..... :-/

At least he isnt flying the bomb up there ;)

Yeah. I also don't understand why anyone would just go up there to hide.

I suppose in big team battles it could pose a strategic element if the hiding person was able to deny resources to the other team such as the sword and/or other power weapons. But it certainly wouldn't be a fun job, imo.  

Ant1m1nd, I'll look for your friend request next time I'm on live; which should be some time this week.

Thats what I am talking about!!!
:pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed: :pissed:

Do you mean that you can have the bomb/oddball and still be able to drive a vehicle?!?!

No but you can stand on the banshee and some one will then drive you up there.

I was pretty proud of myself today.
I got a 2 kills against a level 22or 24 in Head to Head when they guy was going all out(he was very angry when i got them both :)). The match could not have been more than 5 minutes.
Then later i got 4 kills against a similair level.

What does everyone use as far as look sensitivity? I've been using a 6 or 7 mostly (keep in mind that I'm still rather new to XBox Live so I'm still learning the ropes).

Do higher ranked players use higher LS or is it mainly a personal preference?

The higher the better cause you can turn quicker... I'm currently between 4 and 5, tryin to work my way up to at least 8.

I used 10 for a whole night after slowy working my way up from 5.
I kinda got use to it but i would turn too fast in some situations.
I generally hover between 4-6 though. I think i am at 5 now.

I will more or less just change it whenever and see how i do.

Just a matter of preference...... I find that setting it too high makes it harder to snipe , but I have mine set at 5 currently and it sometimes is to slow when you are in a circular "dogfight".

I keep mine at 6, but I have to move it up.  I am more of the balls out, run to the enemy in a blaze of gunfire type player so I need to be able to turn around fast if an enemy gets the drop on me.

Me and Sauza have alot in common at least fighting style in Halo 2 anyways.

If I am not sniping I go in guns blazing.

As for as the speed of the aim I have never even looked at changing it.

I'm mainly base defense and balls out bust a cap in a mofo so high sens is the only way to go. I just wish I could get past 4. It's weird cause sometimes I'm hittin where I should be with 5 and others it's just no good :-\

Henry Higgins may be paying you a visit Eliza.

I currently have mine set at 5.  I had it as high as 7, but I couldn't aim for shit.  I'll slowly be moving up.

I played a little last night on 7 and came in second in a Rumble Pit match, so I might keep it there for a while.

Played part of the Digitpress tournament last night.
My oppenent was Sensei Fu. We played a best of 3 type situation.

The score was to 10 kills and the first map was Ascention. I won 10 - 2. I was a little impatient at times which is why I was killed a few times.

The next round was on Lock Out and I could not get a flow going  >:( Sensei was doing a great job of run , hide kill....... :-/ We did not touch the sword. I said at the start of the match I would not use it. It was a close match in which he was ahead at one point 5 - 1 , I think.......

In the end I won 10 - 8 , but not without recieving the first close call of the tournament.

Of course if he won that I would have not agreed to play that map again ::) Too many hiding places for my taste. Of course I should have just been patient and waited for my kills... But I did not want the match to take an hour.

I think I am in the finals now ? I should be because I have now faced 3 people and won all of my matches.  :-/

Would you have rather lost your matches?
I think you are the only person to actually play that many matches.
You lucked out

Thats not it actually. What I meant by that statement was it doesnt seem like anybody is getting thier matches done besides me. ;)


And thanks phoenix , but what I meant by not using the sword is that I dont need to use such a weapon to beat people. I dont care if they use it because I will win regardless :ninja:

The more I play, the more I'm liking DWing 2 needlers. Long range, locks on target, quick reload...

It beats DWing SMGs, imo...

Yes but needlers can be avoided. Even more so at closer range.

SMG/Pistol is a nice combo

Ok then. 1vs1 tonight, let's test that theory of your's ;)

I have been getting pretty good wielding the blade myself.

In the mean time check outthis game. I laughed when it started.
http://bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?panel=stats&gameid=139857533&player=Izret101
I am pretty sure i got my largest spree right when the game kicked off no more than 30 seconds in (1 minute tops).
I had a bunch of good Rumble Pit matches today.
I rank up again in 1 match. I went from a 10 to a 12 in one day. Sweet.

remember when I had a 15 kill spree on you, your bro and Rick to win the sword match on Midship?  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

I should have been a 12 in rumble pit last night. No Problem 1 1st or second place hell a 3rd would have proibably got it.

But for some reason my connection decided to suck most of the night and i am going to have to do some work to get my 12 today. I don't think i finished past 4th most of them night after my initial spree of amazingness.

I finally got up to a level 10 on Rumble pit.  |D

And Izret, we need to talk about how much your playing 1 0n 1.  I think you have more head to head matches than I have total games played.  :D

Whats with you guys and rumble pit ?

:yuck:

I've always liked the every man for himself style of gameplay.  Besides it fits my playing style better.

That and if I have a shitty game, no one is punished but myself.

I don't really like Rumble Pit as it rewards recklessness.  

Captain was getting frustrated with me crawling around the map and using guerilla tactics, but what the heck would you do with that monster hunting you?  

Well, if it were Goldeneye, I'd place proximity mines everywhere.  God I miss proximity mines.

Are you above Rumble Pit or would you just suck ass at it?  ;)

Well I think my wins per game played % is actually pretty high in that category. But I am a fan of more team type games myself. :)


@ Sensei.... I guess so.

I likes me rumble for warmup but I love a good head to head match. I've been lucky enough to run across a few players that were dead even with me. Those were the best games ever.

Team games are the reason I play Halo. I found that I only enjoy a team game with the right people. That doesn't always mean the best players either. Attitude is equally as important.

I like team games but not with no mic. So i have been avoiding them.

Head to Head is ok but i got burned out on ONLY playing head to head for almost 2 months plus i ran into to many cheaters(hence 200+ matches at level 7).

I found i excel in Rumble Pit (atleast recently) and i luvs me some reckless brawls. |D

I bet rumble pit does not see that many stand by cheaters because the possiblity of getting host is a 1 in 8 chance. I suppose that is one good thing.

I dunno bout that one... I've been standbyed in rumble training a few times..

Never have i been standbyed in Rumble pit.
On that note i ot up to a 12 today.
I had a rough start and finish but i worked my way up there.

Make sure you guys go get that update today :girl:

Played some really fun games last night. Me, Jokerz, an my buddy Eternal (not -the- Eternal) hooked up with Kyliac an some of his buds for some team stuff. We beat the snot out of them in assult (Zanzibar). Typical Pelican's defense an offense >:-) After they rolled out I played with Kyliac an one of his buds 3 vs 3. The ownage continued till we played some team crazy king. They won one of those. They were pretty impressed when I pulled a Captain (fast, smooth captures) on Lockout (1 flag CTF fast). Apparently never saw anyone toss the flag and run it up the front of the tower *shrug* Me an Jokerz got owned later on but it was still fun.

Then I made the laughable mistake of the year...hehe assult on Ivory Tower. Everyone was watchin shotty side an I grabbed the bomb an rolled up to overshield side. I was sittin there for 20 seconds "arming" when I realized that I'd dropped the bomb halfway when I stuck the rocket dude. We ended up losing that one 1-0 :(  

I should have DSL by the end of this month so soon I'll be joining you guys.

woohoo! We'll have a tea(bag) party wit ya :P

What day did they release the DLC?

The automatic download, from what I heard, is going to be in place some time today for the cheat fixes and to recalculate weapon balance.

The DLC with the first 4 of the 9 new maps is still supposedly end of April, but no official date has been set.

Auto update for glitch,cheat and other fixes will be out sometime today.

Maps will be out sometime in the coming weeks.

God I hope stand by is fixed forever. I would be nice if when the stand bye button is pushed then the Xbox would blow up. |D

Well i got my updates when i first logged on.

I have to say so far they seem pretty god.
Haven't really played enough serious matches to know for sure.

We are (or at least I am) going to have to join some people to get in full 16 player brawls.

I just played a few serious matches an of course we came out on top ;) The changes really don't seem to be affecting gameplay as much as I initially thought they would. Cept perhaps in fiesta and on Coag when folks are whoring the brute shot.

I use to use the brute shot alot too though.
All the weapons i use to use alot got bonuses with the exception of rox (who got a lessened splash zone) and magnums (which are now 543532409863290x weaker that in Halo)

I didn't know they were going to change the weapons.  I'm going to be on today, so it looks like I'm going to have to do some expiramenting.

Me nick and O Pesha spent most of the night leveling down and had a blast.

We would beat the hell out of people and leave the game when we got to 49 kills...Muwahahahaha


A few games we tried to kill our selves and one game we ended at - 135 kills.
People were pissed :P

The first thing is OK. Just leaving the game.

I would have beened pissed as well if I playd against you. What fun is that for the other team? I think that is just dumb and rude.

Your right it is dumb , but its not like we are hurting the other team... In fact they get the win. I just dont see how its rude  :-/ Like I said , your right about it being dumb , but sometimes its fun to do stupid things.  :o

Did I mention they get the win ?

And before you can reply to my comments with your point of view again Scott.....


Blow me  :P
(j/k)

No you are not hurting the other team. And yes you are giving the team a lot of Exp. But what fun is that for the other team? People play Halo to have fun. How is that fun for the otehr team?

I agree with doing stupid things is fun. But thats what custom games are for.

I see you are a little touchy about Halo you damn fan boy.

Naw , just playing with you Scotty......

I dont really care if you were picking on me. Like I said, down ranking is stupid , but It was fun seeing how big a negative number we could reach. And I did let the other team kill me for fun in those games.

Not a total loss of fun for the other team.  ;)

If you leave the game at 49 wins (presuming the win is at 50),  it's pretty much a slap in the face to the other team. And really no different than trash talk (which is really annoying and poor gamer etiquette, imo).

If I were the other team, I wouldn't blame them for getting pissed. And even though you give them the win, it still not fun because it's not earned.

I play online becaus I enjoy the competition. Whether I get beaten the hell out of (which is often) or not, I enjoy learning the game and it's strategy. And we learn by playing against people with better skill then our own.

No offense, but I just don't see any benefit to it no matter how much justification is given that they "got the win".

Amen Amen!!!!!!!

Maybe , but its not like we gave them a hard time or something..... We just left at 49 kills.  

::) Oh well

In case you haven't heard, the release date of the first 4 new maps (2 free, 2 for $5.99) is this coming Monday, 4/25/05.

Hey Izret, what's the "rox" weapon you mentioned? Is it slang for the rocket launcher?

Yes "rox" is slang for rocket launcher. Well not really slang more like I am to damn lazy to type out rocket launcher.

I use to always say rockets but everyone ele just says rox so i joined the crowed.
Thank god for perr pressure.

I have to admit i have not been having as much fun playing as i use to.
I don't blame the updates because for the most part i like them.
I am kinda burnt out though on the same levels and such.

I am going to have to get you guys to play a level my friend made called Big Bomb. (He made the bomb blast stronger and give you invisibility, reduced damage and you give extra damage)
I don't know if he really did it or somehow got it somewhere else.
But it is pretty cool none the less if played right. I only played it 2 times though.

Ant1m1nd, I got your friend request. Thanks. Level 11 huh? Impressive.

playe dtoday for the first time in a week. Won a king of the hill against nicm, Anti, and rick. Most of been the connection  ;)

Over all played for an hour. Not much fun any more.  :-/

Yea yea Scott, I was -really- drunk. Gonna have to play ya sober...hehe

I don't seem to have as much fun anymore.
I still enjoy rumble pit and other slayer matches but the last few times i have been on it was with people glitching (super bounces) or in hacked modes (The Big Bomb) or with drunks (which was rather entertaining.)

What Laurel ??  :o You lost that 12 we earned you... :(
Gonna have to level you back up today.

Did I mention I earned a 16 in Team Slayer the other night ?

I now am a 16 in Big team battle as well as slayer.

Hey Laurel me and you have to play some team slayer tonight.
I am almost a 17... not really but i want to rank over Capn.
:P

Ant1m1nd is actually more polite and courteous when she's drunk.  That's hot.   |D

Ha ha..... your rumble rank is higher than mine ;)

I agree with ya. Just not that much fun anymore.

Well I think we need to get a big game of Zombie together or maybe play some match making together.

Could be fun ?

Of course with new maps coming out maybe it will freshen up the game?


Could always play a game of command and conquer  :)

I still have as much fun playing playing Halo online as I did when I first got it.  Of course I get on 3 times a month if I'm lucky so that might have something to do with it.

That's a good point. I'm in the same situation. It keeps the game fresh, imo. The downside is that you don't level up as fast.

Nice game of Zombie sounds fun but I dont think other people still like that game.

Yeah the new maps might help.

C&C sounds good to me.

And then when you dont level you go play the people that play 10hours a day and you get your ass kicked. Not much fun there.

I found out that I have more fun with my new buds than I do with you guys most of the time, no offense to anyone here.

I think the big reason for that is that we play a round or two then we'll sit there an bullshit for a while (a while being 20 mins to hours), then back to playing. We agree on custom before we start it an always do what everyone is up for atm. Also tend to keep the party closed or invite only and bring in people that we know are fun *shrug*

Not necessarily, Tynstar. It's kind of like riding a bike if you haven't done so in awhile.

You feel a bit awkward the first few games back, but eventually you get your familiarity back and start playing better. And then the adrenaline kicks in and you're hooked again.

Let's not forget the variety of game types available, too. Lately, I've been playing Slayer and have reached lev 6. But I'm only a 1 or a 2 in a lot of the team games because for awhile that's all I played when I was getting started. Consequently, I got owned a lot! Now, if I were to go back and play them, I'd likely be able to be a smarter and more competitive teammate.

I have a question. When you decide to host a game, how do you open it up to the net and not restrict it to "invite only"?

True there are a ton of games but we seem to always play the same thing.

I agree that even after a few weeks off  you can get back into the swing of things but I still get my ass kicked.

By default it is open to the world. You have to chage it to "invite only".

I am gonna be playing with Dan tonight.
Right now me, him, bearpat, mrwinky, anti, blazin and a few others are playing in a game.

I set it to no limit so i am sure people will leave.
It was originally just to let dan and anti get some training. But i opened the party so peeps could join.

Anti you said come back later. I did. You not there. :-/

I did come back man. I set my alarm for 1am so I'd be up an ready to rock for the night. We got our clan up an runnin proper an got our 5 last night. We didn't lose many and the ones we lost were very close :girl:

I picked up the new maps around 3am EST. I'm not a fan of Warlock but I love Containment for 1vs1 sniper match :girl:

Download only took a few mins. Not sure what it'll be like later today though.

Unless something major keeps me from it, I should be getting a good 5 hour block in tomorrow night from 5:30-10:30.  I can't wait to see the new maps.

Is anyone else paying the $6 to get the new maps?  I know I am.

I'll just get the disc when it comes out in June.

I'm probably going to buy that too for the other 5 maps, but I need some new maps now.  I can navigate all of the originals with my eyes closed.

I'll get the 2 free ones, pay the $5.99 for the 2 bonus ones. I don't know about the next 5 though.

Den, you want to split the cost of the June 28 bonus disc?

Anybody heard whether or not the expansion pack disc will be write-restricted (i.e. limited to one box)?

I was wondering the same thing. Me and Laurel were just discussing it. I think you would be able to use it multiple times. I know you can not use the premium downloads on other xbox's though.... :-/

I thought that the free ones can be downloaded to any number of xboxes on the same xbox live account, right?

It's just that the PAY downloads have to bought over and over for each xbox they're downloaded on.

Anyone know for sure?

premium downloads probably are the ones you have to pay for.

Bingo Den.

I am not going to pay for those extra 2 maps now. I am going to hold out till they are free.

I played on the 2 free maps for a bit today and they are pretty cool.
I look forward to testing out CTF strategies for Containment. The one i came up with like 2 minutes in is probably the same one everyone else will when playing it.

Sweeeettt!!!!!!

New and improved Halo 2 crack!!!

Containment is freaking huge.

I'm having trouble with the new maps. About half the time I try to join a custom game, and I get the "You failed to load the map" error tho I have both maps and can join other custom games.

It's a brand new xbox, and I never got that error before downloading the maps.

I did however have to download them twice since it failed the first time. I thought that was due to bandwidth issues since everyone was prolly downloading them the same day.

Any ideas?

I wasn't able to download mine until around 9:30 since my internet connection was down. I did decide to buy the premium maps, though. Turf by itself is worth the price of admission!

Containment will probably be my new favorite map. So many options when in this massive level. Played many  CTF rounds here last night.

Turf kicks ass and will be a great place for "Zombie"

The other 2 maps are "bleh" but still fun. I think warlock is a great place for phantom king of the hill. ;)

Look me up tonight if you want to play in my games.

CaptainNintendo

We've already been on top of Containment...hehe Didn't take us too long to figure out how to do that one. If you want me to show ya hit me up today/tonight.

I forgot to mention I have been to the top of containment as well as on top of a few "un-reachable" buildings on Turf. :P

Also found a super jump on Sanctury ;)

Well.... i still have played a total of 5 matches on the 2 free maps.

Maybe my mom won't notice the 6 bucks on her credit  card statement.....

Yea but can you get on top of Warlock? :P

:'( No , but I havent had time to try yet  ;)
Too many games and people actually playing last night. Best part of it was that nobody was playing matchmaking .....

Hey Captain, what's "zombie"?

I was walking thru the maps last night but couldn't find any ways to get on top of any maps but Containment (Same 'ol Banshee/Sniper combo).

Any tips?

Well Containment can be breached with a spectre as well.

Turf can only be reached by the host of the game and then others can follow with a sword cancel.
You need to have overshields with swords and rockets equiped.

The super jump on Sanctury is hard to explain and I have only done it once :-/

What gets me is the way the top of Containment looks and how easy it is to get out of, its almost as if it was meant to be done. Anyone else think that makes sense? I mean, look at Coag. When you get to the end of the map you KNOW it's teh end of the map. But Containment looks like it goes on forever (even at the end).

Don't go up there problem solved.

Well, if you're not careful, it looks as though you can get picked off by a turret; I haven't experimented if the turret would reach though.

Also, you're precariously close to the rocket launcher since the top of containment is in the middle of the map.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but of the 4 maps is Sanctuary the only one with a default Sword?

A spectre! Wha? Forgive my nOObness, but I thought those only flew low to the ground?

What's a "sword cancel"?

You can get on top of containment just sword canceling too.

I did it alot easier before i trid to show Scooter Anti and Bearpat.

Sword Canceling is when you get the red lockon you push the trigger and x at the same time thusly canceling your lunge and keeping the energy to burst up into the air or across the ground.

There are no default swords on Turf, Warlock, and Containment, though, right?

nopne of them do to my knowledge.
There is no fair place to put one on Containment (plus i have seen 99.9% if not al of the map)
Warlock is small enough that you can see the whole map from the start practically.
Turf i searched high and low and didn't see one while i was in there.

It's too bad that on Turf you couldn't bust open any doors. I tried melee, grenades, gunfire...nothing will open them.

My brother tried to throw grenades in the trash barrels but after he comitted suicide he realized that the grenade just bounced off.

If all the buildings on Turf were fully acessable that map would have been a massive download. I don't know if it would have worked well with all that space and twists turns and multiple levels.

uh Anthony? don't give phoenix any tips on use of that damn sword. I gotta play him friday night.

though now I know too.

People say it is a wicked noob weapon but it does take some skill to wield.
Just like any weapon if you don't know how to use it right you will get sidesteped when you lunge, lunged at first or just all together outgunned.

You can always play on a map with no sword or give everyone swords if it ever becomes a problem.

I do suggest you get use to playing with all the weapons Pheonix. It will help you to be able to use them all rather than be good with a select few.

Hey phoenix, you're welcome to get on and train with us anytime man. Terz really knows his shit, I got some things I do to train up, an the best guy in our clan is extremely helpful an willing to take the time out.

Had a lotta fun last night. Especially when we were giving Sauza his tryout ;)

I absolutely agree. You cannot expect specific weapons to be available to you at any given time, so it's best to become proficient with all of them in order to improve your overall game.

I just tend to ask a lot of info-related questions, and lately many have been about the sword in particular.

speaking of this "training", there's really no way to do that without other people on Halo2 is there?

playing campaign doesn't seem to help much.

I've been playing a lot of MOH: Rising Sun multiplayer using bots. It's good practice, I can have 7 bots and myself in a match. I getting pretty good at avoiding hits but it's still a challenge to reach the kill total first because the bots blow each other away fairly quickly.

I wish Halo2 had a feature like that. (yeah I know I could just get Xbox Live)

Sure. I'd love to be in the clan. How does that work? I accepted one from somebody I played a long time ago, but never really participated in it so I've been open to joining a new one.

Well, you hit me up when you on and we play together. You meet me an the other two overlords (rarely found apart these days) an chill an play with us. If we think you got the right attitude we invite ya ;)

Then we get to haze you...hehe >:-)

In my opinion, that's really the only missing feature in Halo 2. I'm really surprised they didn't add bots in.

Hey Den, does MOH: Frontline allow for bots also? I haven't tried mine out yet.

Two features I woulda loved to see in Halo 2 is spectate mode and training. Not even bots really, but for q3 threre's this mod called defrag. It's literally a training mod that has maps with targets and it times you and gives you your accuracy. There are other maps/modes an somethin like that would have been ideal for Halo 2.

Fair enough.

no, Frontline does not have bots.

but that would require an Xbox Live account to download that mod.

She would love to see them Den those mods don't exist.
You can make your own types of games but even that is fairly resticted.

As for me "knowing me shit" i know a fair amount and try to practice what i preach but i am not all that good with it. I will admit for the most part i rely on only a few weapons out of a good portion of them but that has started to change with the new updates.

When they reset the ranks i will hopefully be able to move up at a better pace this time thru.

I hear they're doing the ranking reset next week.

Ya i think it is monday. It is suppose to coincide with the Halo 2 release in Australia.
Or so i have heard. I am not 100% sure though. So i will just continue to spread the rumor.

Uggghh, you had to remind me of that didn't you?  I'm still all swollen and sore.  I didn't realize how bad I've gotten at Halo until I played you guys.  It's definatley time to practice up and god willing one day I will become a peon+1.  ;)

swollen?

what kind of tryout was this?

It was horrible.  They had this thing called a gritch.  It had three huge, razor sharp spikes surrounding a 18 inch dildo.  It was all motorized and pumped out 325 horsepower of butt shaking fury.





But instead of using that, they just beat the shit out of me at Halo.

Yea. That's cause Covenant sex toys are next week.
He is a damn good sport about it though  |D

So we were on top of Turf last night. Tempest found the way and away we went. It was pretty wicked.

I'll get to try some of these new maps tomorrow night and most likely get thoroughly thrashed by phoenix.

Well, I'm certain to be humbled by Anti, Iz, Cap, and the rest the first time I join them online.

Anti, how did you get on top of Turf? It doesn't seem like there's a way...

But if you play online then play Den you will kick his ass!!

I have managed to win a few rounds, not many though. We always play to 10 and I'm usually at 6-8 kills when the round is over.

phoenix - join us tonight an I'll show ya. Same goes for anyone else that wants to learn :girl:

I'll show ya a few other minor glitches that I never saw before. They're completely pointless but fucking hilarious.

What time will you be on? I've got plans early evening, but later I may be able to join.

On all night every night man. Lately I've been playin for 16+ hours (sometimes appearing offline). I'll keep an eye out for ya. If you can't get on tonight that's kewl. Just hook up with us anytime.

:o :o :o

Jesus, no wonder I didn't stand a chance!

Allright. I'll look for you tonight.

I will be on and off most of friday night. Dan is coming over and we are going to try out TeamTalk. A 3rd party mic set that lets your guests talk too.

jesus, who has that much free time. I don't think I've played it 16 hours total yet.

I've been trying to buy one of those off ebay but they've stopped listing them.   >:(

I take that back, one was listed and I bought it today.  

I didn't play so much yesterday an prolly won't today. It appears that I'm burned out or somethin :(

I got to play on the new maps last night and totally got my ass handed to me. didn't get a single kill on a couple of them. we did Turf twice and managed 5 or 6 kills both times. that was the best I managed. we only play to 10 so I thought that was okay for a first try.

got to nine on a couple of the old maps. one being Coagulation where the matched ended with me losing to phoenix in a Ghost shootout.

That Coagulation finish was probably one of the coolest situations to be in to end a Slayer match, though. Tied at 9. Both in  ghosts. Dueling to get the last kill...

We definitely should try 2 vs.2 teams the next time. Just to see how it plays out.

as long as I'm your team. that or 3 vs 1, maybe we'd have a prayer then.

I'd have no objections, but Jim and Ray might feel that the teams would be unfair.

:o :o :o :o :o :o

:laugh: :laugh:

Don't be shocked Scott...lol Actually I played well yesterday and today. I think taking a break had a lot to do with it. Tonight I won't be playing, just training our n00b and having some fun.

I played last night and I was actually effective again!  That felt good.  The way that they tweaked the weapons sort of messed up my play style, so I had to abandon my old style and take up a less aggressive approach.  It's been working out well so far (except for a few bumps on asencion).

I still haven't overcome the change and I'm not sure I want to put in the effort.  

It's actually not that hard to deal with.  You just have to make sure you are walking around with a good combonation of short and long range weapons (i.e. battle rifle and shotgun).  Also, grenade placement is alot more important than before.

He doesn't like it because he use to force people into situations to hunt him down.
So now a well placed grenade ruins it.

I didn't realy have to change my play style at all to get use to it.
I was lucky  :P

I played last nigt for the first time in a few weeks. Was kinda fun. The fun part was Anti and I pushing Capt' around because he feel asleep while playing.  :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

LOL
I can't believe he fell asleep.
Never will he live this down.
>:-)

Well I ca'n't really say anything. I have nodded off a few times playing PSO.

It was fun though.

Rick: Man I am really tired
Scott: Go to bed
Laurel: I will start the next game to show you something.
Scott: Sweet!

We start she shows us.

Scott: Thats cool! Right Rick?
Rick:zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

Just was a crazy busy day at work and I didnt expect to be up that late playing :-[ It was fun.... Was at the middle of Containment when I nodded off and when I opened my eyes I was in a base :o I even looked to see if I was killed , but I wasnt which meant they pushed me all that way :P


Kind of funny :laugh:

That's not true.  However, I abhorred the BR and I was a dual wielder.  I wasn't much for throwing grenades either.  It forces me to totally change my playing style.  

And to be honest, I'm getting burned out on Halo 2.  I feel the use of shields dumbs down play and takes out any strategic aspect of play.  The fact that people aren't really penalized for dying just promotes people to be reckless and reduces everything to who's reflexes are better rather than who is actually putting thought and strategy into the match.  If there was another game of the same caliber, I would switch.  

We were nice about it. Even asked if you were alive a few times :P

First off, if you're talking about OVERshields, I think that they're a strategic aspect all their own. More often than not, most players know where they are, and if you're fortunate enough to be in a position to be able to grab one, you'll have to travel to where the combat is to be able to take advantage of it...all the while seeing the overshield timer continue to run down.

Secondly, what do you mean when you say that you're "not penalized for dying"? I'm lost on that one.

Further, I actually think that the changes are good for the game. They make more logical sense. If you get hit full force by a grenade, you *should* die, not just get your shield knocked down to critical levels. And balancing out the weapons was another need, it gives respawnners a better chance to get back in the game to compete. I also like the increase in value to the melee attack, now you don't *have* to have the shotty or sword to be able to take advantage of short range.

Lastly, I'm of the opinion that if anyone  is experiencing "burn out" on any one game, play something different until you feel genuinely interested in coming  back to it. I've found that doing so gives you a fresh perspective to be able to see new aspects of the game that you may not have previously noticed because of the burnout factor. Just a thought.

Overall, I have no complaints about the changes.

To address your points:

1.  No, I'm talking about the regular shields.  I prefer playing a game where some strategy is employed.  I really enjoy Marines (pistols, BR's, and no shields)  because you have sneak around and use your brain.  Where should I stand?  Is this a good point to pick people off?  What if he throws a grenade over here?  We just killed them over there so they should be coming up the blue elevation thing.  I'll pick them off before they hit the ground.  Etc etc.  

2 or more guys repeatedly trying to shoot each other in the head with the BR while their shields go down as they dance back and forth like the Village People having a seizure is not my idea of realism.  

2nd- in individual slayer type games you are not penalized for dying.  The guy who "wins" is the guy who gets the most kills.  Therefore, it encourages reckless behavior that nobody would employ in combat.  If I can get 25 kills even with 30 deaths I still win.  

Even in Team Slayer (in which deaths really matter because they're scores for the other team) how many people actually celebrate those who die the fewest times?  I tend to be a defensive player who crouch walks around.  I tend to get a medium number of kills with a very low number of deaths.  However, the guy who gets 30 out of 50 kills, but also dies 27 times gets celebrated.  WTF is up with that?  

3rd- I have some problems with the changes in the game.  Bungie created the combat they wanted by assigning the strengths of the individual weapons.  In fact, in their own strategy guides they tell you which combos they set up as the most powerful.  Then they went and neutered the magnum and PR.  I don't have a problem with them raising the grenade strength, but I do have a problem with them arbitrarily changing so many weapons at one time.  Now everyone is tossing pineapples like crazy.  

Also, the melee attack is a problem as well.  If I dual wield and am trying to stay close enough to my enemy to negate grenade use, I get beat down by an idiot holding a rifle.  If you really think about it, what are the chances IRL of some idiot killing me with the butt of his rifle when I'm going John Woo on his ass with dual magnums?  Since when is a forward strike with a rifle the equivalent of a light saber like alien sword?  What's the point of using hte sword anymore anyway?  

And how do you guys use the melee attack anyway?  In the default  config you have to take your right thumb off the stick to activate it so you can't aim properly.  If you remap it to the right thumb button you can't snipe very well.  Microsoft needs 2 sets of trigger buttons.  

/end rant

The way I see it, Bungie basically lowered the effectivness of dual weilding.  It sucked for me at first because that was my bread and butter, but I learned to deal with it (and when I say that I mean I was finally forced to learn to aim with the BR, Carbine, ect.  ;)).

@  Sensei_Fu - You need to play RTS games. Or maybe Rainbow Six is more "real".

Well, if a player is penalized for dying like you describe, matches would turn into camping sessions because no one would want to move around out of fear of getting hit. That's no fun. H2 is not a stealth game. And even for the more strategic shooters (I.e. Ghost Recon 2, MoH, etc.), there is a health gauge of sorts that could be considered comparable to the shields that Halo 2 employs.

Next, when I'm playing H2, I'm thinking of exactly the strategic principles that you listed regarding positioning, vulnerabilities, etc. If someone outfoxes me to a position or ambushes me from a spot I wasn't expecting so take fire from, I take the approach that I just learned something new.

Everyone has different playing styles, strengths and weaknesses. When the rules to a game change, the player must adapt new strategies to be able to be more competitive. The obvious would be how to use the new weapons effectively. The not-so-obvious would be to change how to become more effective in positioning yourself on any given map, since old positions may no longer be as effective, but previously disregarded positions have become more effective because of the changes.

The bottom line is that no matter what the game (even in professional sports), the rules will change to keep the game evolving, and the players will continually need to adapt to stay competitive.

For me, I know I'm not going to let the changes they made to the game ruin the enjoyment that I get out of it.

That's just my $.02.

Tynstar has a good point Sensei.
RTS are great you should fire up your PC and grab some of the Command and Conquer games.
EXTREMELY strategy based. Just make sure you don't play any inf. money maps.
Because there goes all the strat from the game.
in the mean time just phase yourself back in.
You like strategy so your just going to have to develope some new ones is al the changes mean.

I have come to like Marines myself. I really like it on LockOut.

Me an my buddy played the new Double Team games for 8 1/2 hours. Takin a break for 5 hours to sleep an playin some more - it's just THAT good! If strat is your thing it really is important in 2 vs 2. Especially with skirmy games and rifle battles.

What is the Double Team game all about? Are they held mostly on the smaller maps?

The 2 vs.2 idea sounds great! I think that Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory has a similar setup from what I've heard.

Yep , I played a few games of 2 v 2 and noticed basically you should make your life count because if you die you leave your partner out to dry.  :-/

Double Team is 2 vs 2. It can be tough or easy, but one thing's for damn sure - make sure your partner is a team player and able to handle themself.

So no one should play with you your saying?

I think that is what she is saying.

Ha ha fucking ha you bastids.

So, I've got a question about the new ranks.  

It used to be that whichever category had the highest rank, that rank would show next to your name on the friend's list.  Is that what is happening now?  

If I have a 10 in Rumble Pit and a 13 in Team Slayer, does my rank show as a 13?  

I think so , because I am a 13 in team slayer at the moment and a 6 in team preview. The 13 shows next to my name.

Which brings me to this point ..... Its too easy to level up now  :o   I have just started to get to the point where it takes more than 1 good win to level up and we were finally playing some competetion at this point. But after 14 matches and 14 wins in team slayer I am a 13. Granted my team won all but one of our matches by alot. >:-)

I plan on doing alot of big team this weekend and maybe some skirmish. I was hoping to level up to a 20 in team slayer by the end of the weekend as well (maybe)

Maybe I can finally get higher then a 6 next to my name. Naw I doubt it I would have to play ranked games then.

Maybe they are making it easier so when people have Halo's next to there name it is no big deal.

I will play some slayer or big team with you this weekend....

On the subject of ranks however , I feel the ranks will get hard to level near the 20's or mid 20's.....

your clan rank can no longer appear as your highest rank nect to your name. Therefore you wont have everybody joining a "boosting" clan just to get a stupid number or logo next to thier name.

Plus boosting clans is now going to be watched and those involved will be banned  :D

People who wanted into a clan just to have a high level next to thier name are stupid ::) When I would see people who had the symbol ranks I would point out to everybody in the game that we had a booster among us. :laugh:

99 percent of them would be offended and get really defensive about it. I would point out that ....Yep I know your a cheater and I am about to own you.  :shooting:

My lower back is killing me.  I think it's because I play Halo 2 for hours while sitting forward in my Lazy Boy chair.  Anybody else ever experience this?  

No , because typically what I do is sit on the ground with a big pilow behind my back for support.



Also , I didnt play much this weekend :( I was too busy Bowling,golfing and playing hockey.....

I did however level upto a 17 ::)

Yes! (kinda). For me it's my middle-lower back and it's cause of the way I sit (and lay) when I'm playing. I tend to sit up on my bed "indian style" but kinda hunched over a lil...lol or lean on my left arm an lay on my side. The first one caused the middle-lower back pain after a few hours and now all the time. The second caused shoulder pain and I even fucking dislocated it twice (and that seriously hurt).

Recommendation - Biofreeze. I dunno if you can get it in a drug store but my chiro and other chiropractors in the area carry it. It's like super duper icy hot and the shit really works. Comes in your average greasy stuff in a tube and roll-on form. I prefer the roll-on. That shit'll dull the pain so quick you won't know you had it ;)

|D

I just wanted to say that I didn't mind Bungie resetting the stats, but I can't stand playing with these screws who run at a guy with a rocket launcher when all they have is an SMG.

I was playing Team Slayer  on Beaver Creek with BR's a few days ago and I get set up with one guy who is at about my level and two kids who suck worse than anything I've ever seen.  We jumped out to an early lead and I was messing up the other team.  It even made two guys on the other team quit.  That's when the two screws start acting up.  In a matter of 20 seconds, they each got killed like 2 or 3 times and the other guy I was playing with said "what the hell are you two doing" and quit as well.  

So now it's me and these two pricks against this other team.  The two guys that were left on the other team were horrible as well making this even more bitter.  The other team started slaughtering my teamates so instead of hiding back a little and playing strategically, I had to go on the offensive and try to take away the sniper rifle and rockets.  That just lead to me dying more often than not, so I just said fuck it and coasted for the rest of the game.  The only time after that that I tried was when one of them started running thier mouths after they killed me.

By the end of the game, the guys on my team had nearly 20 deaths a piece and a handful of kills.  I had 10 deaths or so to, but I was just b.s.ing for half the game.  I can't stand having these shitty players who refuse to learn on my team, but I like playing with random people.  It is a quandary.

I hate playing with random people for the reason you just described.

I'd never play a matchmaking game without a full team if my rank was at all important to me.  

As much as many of us like to bitch about it, rocket and sword whoring are a part of the game and if we were matchmaking, you'd better bet I'd do it too.  

I think I'm going to take a few days off from Halo.  My back is really bothering me now and I hope a few days of rest will cure it.   ::)

Good luck with that man. My back is always killin but it was fucked up before I started playin *shrug*

I'd like to play the game variant known as Mike Myers/Halloween where the guy who plays the killer has to play scary music through his headset to alert others that he's coming.  

I was thinking of using the theme to Jaws, Lunatic Fringe (by Red Rider), or Welcome to the Jungle (Guns and Roses).  

Can anyone suggest anything better?  

Yea - N*Sync is pretty fuckin scary. Why don't ya try that...lol

Anybody ever play 2 vs. 2 CTF or King of the Hill?

I've done CTF and classic CTF as well as snipes, rifles, and king.

Do the CTF and King games play out fairly well? What's your overall thoughts?

I'm looking for info on them because I'm trying to get ideas to put together some good 2 vs 2 game variations for an offline multiplayer game.

I think the 2vs2 objective based games work very well actually. I'm very tired as I've just finished a 7 1/2 all night session so here's what I remember playing (2vs2 games)...lol

Rifles (BR & Snipes only) on Lockout, Acension, & Warlock
Classic CTF & CTF (both multi flag) on Warlock
Crazy King on Warlock
1 Flag CTF on Lockout
Slayer on Acension

If I misspelled anything it's cause I've been awake for 22 hours now. I'mma go do the temp coma thang. Hope that helps :girl:

I just picked up the current Xbox Magazine and it has a downloadable Halo2 game variant called Zombie. all it says is "square off against the undead".

what the hell does it do? I started a match with just me and there is a zombie meter in the lower right corner but other than that it was just me roaming around alone in the map.

anyone know?

In Zombie one person starts green the rest red.
Weapons are always swords and generally shotguns and/or pistols.

When you get killed by the green zombie (who can only use sword) you go green. Once green/zombie you can no longer use anything but sword.

There are no shields so the zombies die from a few shots much less if they are head shots.

It can be pretty fun.

Edit
Just thought i would add it also goes by the name Dawn of the Dead, T-Virus and a few other names i can't remember.

so what's the minimum # of players? I tried it again with my wife, I was red she was blue. so no green. the weapons were only swords, magnums and shotguns.

so based on your description once everyone is killed once you're all zombies? the object is still to just get to the specified kill total first?

sounds like the only variant is a limitation on wepons and loss of a shield once you get killed. I guess I don't get it. How are you a zombie? just being green?

was just on AIM with Tynstar and he explained it.

Its fun when you have a lotta folks. This halloween game that Sensei mentioned is really fun too. I played with him and some other folks the other day.

Basically one person is the killer and they play music while running around with sword. The other folks are invisible and have 3 lives each. Nobody is allowed to kill the killer unless everyone else is dead and they are the last one left. The "good guys" can use either sword or magnum - and there are no shields.

Why are they invisible?

if someone was chasing me with a sword I'd want to be invisible.

If you where invisible how would they know where you are to chase you?

I'm changing the game to visible because without that it's just too damned hard to cut someone with the sword because there's no lock on.  

I will soon set it up as a Juggernaut game, but when you play that way everyone has to have a music source because the "bad guy" is chosen at random.  

that's exactly why I'd want to be invisible.


question for Tynstar on the Zombie game you described to me yesterday:

you said the game ends when everyone is a Zombie and the last man turned starts the next match as the Zombie. so the last man to become a Zombie wins the match?

shouldn't the game end when there is still one human? what's the reason for continuing the game when only one man is left if he has already won?

or is it more of a cumulative "how long can you survive?" sort of thing?

Bingo.  

So, what did you guys/gal think of Halloween last night?  

Isnt Halloween in a few months yet?

it's Halloween in Halo everyday!

I thought it ended up being alot of fun.
I would never be able to be Mike Myers though because i don't have the right audio set up in my room.
I would play again though.
I would have won if i didn't fall off the egde that one time on accident.

I got lucky a few time like when ou came up the blue lift and i dropped down in front of you.

A few times you ran right by me. One time i jumped over your head down to the bottom floors.
I am a stealthy bastard. :ninja:

I won  ;)

Yes, but did you enjoy the game variant?  

Honestly I like it a lot better when the victims are invisible but it is more challenging when they're not. I had fun an look forward to playin again :girl:

It was fun , however I like "zombie" better because you can fight back the whole time.

Dont get me wrong , hiding can be fun when your slayer runs right past you without noticing you ;)

Just like to let everyone know i have EARNED (being the key word) an 18 in team slayer.

Not like those who go insane trying to rank up and won't play with people lower ranked or stop playing if they lose a few with the their team.

Played with some friends from the UK today and me and Reverend Jono got our 18s.(We have been ranking up&down together lately)
Me and the Rev ranked up a few times playing with Nick a few days ago but he didn't carry us by any means.

If i lose the rank so be it. I know i earned the 18 and can get it again.

Good day and good luck to all you other Halophiles

Congrats Terz! All of my ranks are well earned too man.

10 team preview (just started playin today)
12 rumble
13 skirmy
14 double team
15 team slayer

I've played guys who were 20+ and I dunno, it just seems way too easy to rank up. I used to fear someone of a higher rank an now I don't even bother lookin at em when I enter a game. My buddy is a 26 and we play together frequently. We always get guys closer to his level an I always take second place (on my team, never far behind him) *shrug* Either too many boosters or the ranking system is just fucked since they reset it.

[Rant]

Beating 20's now is childs play..... :-/


I am a 20 in slayer with the least amount of wins on my friends list :o That means I have lost the least games..... When we play other 20+ people they dont play like a 20+  ::) I dont like the new ranking system...

(of course maybe these 20's are boosting off lower friends ?)

I wonder when the challenge will actually begin ?


[End rant]

Congrats on the 18 Anthony :)

I cant remember all my ranks off hand , but they arent too high because I have been focusing on BTB which I am almost an 18 in now :) I hate how a tie makes it look like I have less wins than I should :-/


Overall in Team Skirmy I think I am an 11 with 11 wins out of 15 games (I think only one was a loss while the others were a tie.....


Seems like I cant play anymore (last week) without somebody looking me up for BTB though..... I would actually like to play some skirmy....

Played the other day in training with CommanderXbox and got 34 kills and died like twice |D  "Let the bodies hit the floor" >:-)

I am a 25 in all stats and have a better win % then any of you!!!!!!! ::)

Is the penis size contest over yet?

It isn't a pissing contest Scott. Rick has made valid points about the new ranking system. I played a team slayer game this morning where I was the lowest ranked player at 15. I carried my fucking team - big time, and kept up with the highest scoring player on the other team. Rank doesn't mean shit (not that it ever did) but it's just rediculous. I think either something is very wrong or a lotta folks are boostin *shrug*

Seemed like  a pissing contest. If it was not then I take my comment back.


I am ranked a 1 in every stat. I think i have played 2-3 ranked games since the reset.

Expect another ranking change once people rank to 50 for awhile.
But as it stands now i don't think anyone on the leaderboardss is even into the 40s yet.
So eventually it has to get harder.

No you ass clown :P I was making a point about either a problem with the new ranking system or a rampant problem with boosters. I dont know which it is however.

Thanks for "reading" into my words Laurel :)

:fu:

Awww gee thanks buddy :D

I'm thinkin a lotta boosters out there at this point. Played a bit this morning an so-called higher ranks were suckin the big one. Kinda like the sorry ass folks I played with yesterday that ranked up thanks to me...hehe

To me it would make a lot more sense if levels were based fully on merit - even in team games. Experience shouldn't always be given or taken just because you win or lose.

My last game
28 kills 5 assist 8 deaths
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?panel=kills&gameid=190557216&player=Izret101

I got more kills than all of the second place team aswell as more than 3rd 4th and 5th combined!
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?gameID=190522016&player=Izret101

I got a legit killamanjaro (at least i think thats what it said i was too busy freaking out after attacking the entire other team alone. Best way to start was assasinating the overshield :) This was also a game i scored higher than the other team combined.
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?panel=medals&gameid=190513050&player=Izret101

Those were probably the best games i have ever had and they were all one after another.
I had SOOO MANY MEDALS
And i had the best hit % in every match 51, 43, 64 and 60.

I pwned everyone everywhere forever today.
I did WAY better than people higher ranked than I am.

Nice games Anthony.

I dont have a link handy , but me and Laurel played a 2 vs. 2 game the other day in matchmaking and beat the hell out of the other team. I had like 12 or 13 kills and died once  :D

I also recently played a rumble training match on Lockout where I had 25 kills and 2 deaths. The next closest guy to me ha like 9 kills |D

I played a little  yesterday and got my first Rumble pit win since the stats reset.  I'm kind of embarassed because it took me like 9 or 10 games to get it.

Quit bragging! Some of us are on 32 games and counting without a rumble pit win.  >:(

:o

Wow , I really should play rumble more.... I like how it is dog eat dog :P Kind of a treat for those like me who focus on Big Team.

By the way I think I have 4 wins in rumble pit in 7 games :P My thing is to throw Nades at 2 or 3 people fighting and steal the kills :ninja: (hope that helps)

My 1 of 2 Rumble Pit wins.
I had 9 more kills than second place
Another killtacular, and 10 beat downs.
http://bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?panel=medals&gameid=197021918&player=Izret101

This match was friggin gay.
http://bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?gameID=197070617&player=Izret101
Me and Raining Cross got kicked into our own game.
And i suppose everyone else got booted completely.
But the game was halfway over with thsi lagging cheater Suizidhilfe CH in the lead and then me and Cross got kicked into our own room with the scores at zero.

Everytime the guy was within 10 feet of you you would die and he would just keep mindlessly lagging across the map probably just beating us down as we ran around thiking we were killing him. Everyone got blue screened 3 times before the game got restarted.

Thanks for the tip. I've done that before, but I find it very challenging to find a way to get into position to be able to take advantage of that scenario. It seems that  I'm getting beat a lot because others get in the first shot at me.

I guess I need to put more time into the game and being more familiar with the maps and weapons.

Is it just me, or does it seem a little too easy to level up under the new rules? Even though I don't play that much, I've reached level 9 in less time than it took me to get to level 6 under the old rules.  It's a mystery to me...:o

You hear stories of different kinds of cheating on Halo 2 Live, but I take most of them with a grain of salt.  

However, lately I've witnessed it first hand.  I've been against people with godlike prowess at sniping that I know they must have auto-aim.  

Also, and perhaps more damning is this guy I was playing with in a custom game last night.  His character was moving at least 3 times as fast as everyone elses.  He was clearly cheating.  

I stopped the game (as I was leader) called him a pathetic f'ing loser and that I was going to report him for cheating.  

He spouted off some shit about being able to unban his xbox, blah blah.  

How are they doing this?  

Modding the Xbox and Action Replay

Also I thought this thread finally died.

This thread can never die.

Also i know a TON of people who are picking up Action Replay now to "get back" at moders and use it in costum games.

I thought Action Replay just let you create new game types.  And if you're using Action Replay to cheat, don't you have to host the game?  

Nope.
We were host and got modded on Warlock.

I played some Halo2 with Sauza and a couple other buds last night. He kicked our asses pretty handily. I hung close in a few matches and managed to kill him a few times but it wasn't pretty.

looking forward to a rematch.

And a rematch shall be granted.  At least you guys paid me back when we played Rising Sun.

well, the only way we could end your dominance was to make you play a game you've never played before. and you still won a match.

I must spend many hours of practice in preparation of our next battle.

I will be ready.

Anyone else get the new map pack yet?

All the new maps look really cool! Can't wait to play on them.

I haven't gotten them yet and probably won't fr a few weeks.
:(
I need to make some cashola.

All the news maps are cool, minus gemini. That map is terrible. Egolation or however you spell it is probably the best. Its way better then the one in halo 1.

Actually, I think Gemini is pretty cool. You have both indoor and outdoor areas, and the possibility of falling off the map outdoors if you're not careful. Plus the weapon set is balanced because it has 2 shotguns to just one sword. I also am a fan of the teleporters.

Terminal seems to be the most strategic of the maps. Not only does it have the high-speed train in the middle of the map to make taking the sword a very risky proposition, but a lot of sniper roosts and vehicles to make for a huge challenge!

Backwash seems to be a very well-thought out map for those that want the feeling of stealthiness due to the dense fog and dimly lit areas, but right now I'm undecided on it because it seems that there's not enough elevation points. I do like that the "laser" (I forget its actual name) is included in the default weapon set, though.

Relic and Elongation seem solid. Relic has some fun touches with the ability to open up a teleporter. It seems to be best designed for team games. Elongation looks like a jump-fest map to me; my first impression is that it doesn't seem all that strategic...get some grenades, stay elevated, throw grenades at opponents down below, pounce, repeat. Ho hum. I hope I'm wrong, though. At least it doesn't appear that there's a sword on the level...which is a very good thing.

GRRRR....
You have no clue how bad you just made me want the maps Pheonix.......

I suppose I'm looking forward to getting my ass kicked on these new maps.

Since they're not available on matchmaking for competitive play on xbox live yet, we should all be on even ground if we get together to play on the 12th.

Den, you'll be glad to know that a couple of these maps have turrets on them. I know how much you enjoy picking us off from range.  8)

Iz, I certainly didn't mean to rile you up. I was basically just putting in my $.02. No offense.

You guys should be able to take den off a turret with a few well aimed BR shots or a sniper rifle.

And don't worry about it Pheonix i think you took me a bit to seriously. I am a lighthearted fellow.
:)

Unless I'm missing something (which is entirely possible), it seems to me that it takes a lot of shots from a BR to take someone down. DWielding seems to be a much better option, especially if you can grab a PP.

If this isn't true, then maybe someone can explain the advantage of using the BR...

3 head hots kills them.
5-7 bodys shots kill i believe.
The BR rewards those with good aim.

Plasma pistols are an all around good weapon. One headshot with that and a few headshots with any weaps and you killed your target.

Iz, what Looks Sensitivity number do you use? Obviously a lower # will provide more accuracy, but at the same time, the cam will rotate slower. I've had trouble getting in head shots, but I've been using around a 6...too high?

I've never played with anything but the defaults. Do adjustments make that big a difference?

I started with 5, moved up to 10. I dropped it back down to 4, I have between 50-65 percent hit in every game now.

I use 7.
Some people are more "agile" with there thumbs.
Some people feel that 5 is too high and others will feel that 5 is way to low.
It is really a matter of preferance.

I have mine at 7 because it was high enough were i could change views in a decent speed and still be able to control my shots without just going out of control.
I could probably turn it up more now though...

I suggest you leave your sensitivity where it is Pheonix. Play enough with it there and you will get use to it. In the long run it is more worth it for you to be higher up than lower down.
Besides you don't have to be conservative and always go for headshots ;)

BTW if Den was wondering i am pretty sure the default is 3.

It definitely affects play. The higher the look sensitivity, the faster and more drastic the camera will move when you're not in the heat of battle, but the drawback is that your target reticule will also move around much faster and affect your accuracy.

As Iz mentioned, it's really just a matter of personal preference.

I may have to jack that up a bit and give it a try. I know I have trouble wheeling around quick enough to deal with attacks from behind. though there are also times in close combat that I feel like I've turned too quick and lose track of who I'm fighting.

Yeah. I've had the same things happen to me. I hate taking fire and not knowing where to retaliate. And I also hate getting spun around because someone that was in my sights ran by me and then punked me because I couldn't track where they were fast enough. Pisses me off...

I just picked up the Multiplayer Map Pack about a half hour ago. Just finished uploading the scans.

http://www.rfgeneration.com/cgi-bin/getinfo.pl?ID=U-075-S-05520-A&

(http://www.rfgeneration.com/images/games/U-075/bf/U-075-S-05520-A.jpg)

Sweet. Let us know if the bonus content is any good.

will do. I suspect I'll be trying this out tonight.

Depending on how much I find at garage sales tomorrow, I will probably get that tomorrow.  

btw, I'll be online alot tomorrow/Sunday as my girlfriend will be out of town.  Look for me.  

I loaded all the maps and walked through a few. looking forward to playing them.

the bonus content was meh. a new cut scene, a documentary on the guys who did the new maps, some trailers and some goofy surround sound test screen with a couple Covenant guys.

That surround sound test is in the Halo 2: LCE
I thought it was pretty cool..... :-[

I liked it as well  :P

New maps are pretty good. I really like RELIC because it will make a great big team battle map imo. Also one flag CTF on that map will rock !

I don't know about big team battle. It doesn't seem to be that expansive of a map, Terminal seems better suited.

I do agree that Relic would be great for 1 flag CTF.

I noticed something on Terminal that seems unusual.

One of the spawning points is inside an upper level room above the parking garage (near the sword-end of the train). There are 2 metal grates in the floor. One is covered, the other is open and lets you jump down into the parking structure. Alternatively, you can go out the window exit and walk along the ledge parallel to the train tracks or go out by way of an open area high above the 2 dumpsters.

The strange thing about this room is that it appears that there's no way IN to the room. I even drove a warthog underneath the exit hole in the parking garage and could not jump into this room from the top of the warthog.

Anyone find a way into this room?

I have done it. I pushed one of those big crates over there with the hog and grenade jumped up there. You can only do this if you are host. Maybe you could stand on top of somebody while the crate is there and get up there ???

Call me confused on this one...why do you have to be the host? What does it allow you to do that it wouldn't allow normally? Move the crate? Pull off the grenade jump? I tried the grenade jump from the dumpster area and couldn't get up there.

I wonder if they created this intending it to just be a spawning point that would discourage camping. It would certainly make a helluva sniper location!

Being the host seems like a default reason for a lot of Halo things now a days/

The host gets a very small advantage.
It just seems lik less of the physics engine applies to them.
Probably because the host is already bearing the brunt of the info taking place.
Atleast that is the case in PC games....

Xbox is really just a specialized PC anyways.

forgive my ignorance but explain host?? is that just an Xbox Live thing?

Being host will allow you to do many different crazy things. Try this one out for instance. Go onto Xbox live and go into a custom game by your self on..... Lets say Zanzibar.

Now get into a Warthog and drive as fast as you can head on into those exploding plasma barrels. After you do this you will understand what being host can do for you. Because if you werent host , all that would happen is you exploding and death.  ;)

And when you figure out what happens when you hit the barrels with a warthog , I am sure you can do the math and figure out what grenade jumping is all about  :P

Pretty much Den.

In the case of Halo , XBL looks for the user in the game with the best connection and best "host history"
And then uses that connection to host the game. Therefore making that user the host ;)

Hope that answers your question :)

yeah it does. I suspected that's what it was. I admit I'm curious to find out the result of the scenario you presented.

Just wanted to toot my own horn
w00t!!!
First game of the day.
With the exception of my brother trying to pretend he didn't use my name.
http://bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?panel=medals&gameid=237625214&player=Izret101

:D

You will find yourself looking for plasma barrels with that warthog after you have done it once. :laugh:

I finally had a chance to play on the Rumble Preview last night and it seemed like I was constantly getting popped by sniper fire from the platforms on Gemini. I just don't remember ever seeing a beam rifle when I walked through the map, only a covenant carbine.  

Anyone know if there's a beam rifle on Gemini?

I was in florida for two weeks and got to play with a 20 something ranked kid. (my friend's friend)  It was pretty sweet. He's being sponsored to play at a tournament in Philadelphia and a few months ago Red Bull sposored him and he won 2k at a tournament. Now thats the life.

Yes , there is one beam rifle on Gemini. Its in the small open area right after that big structure that looks like a throne.

What part of florida did you visit?

Between the throne and the halo? Or by the elevator "bulb"?

Thanks.

Throne and Halo

LOL
Mr. Politically Correct.

Hah  |D

Did you buy the map pack disc ? If so there are "mini maps" inside the instructions. But the sniper is on the other side of the throne , opposite of the "bulb".

Cap nintendo is correct, I double checked last night. That map sucks btw.

no, he downloaded them.

I bought the disk. has anyone else?

I figured since we are "collectors" that all of us would actually buy the disc  ???

I didnt check to see if that was added to the database yet :P

I was in Sarasota. Gaming my little heart out.

Sentinel Beam...crap weapon or does it have a purpose?

After getting my head caved in on Backwash, and having almost no success with the Sentinel Beam weapon, I'm of the opinion that it's garbage. I mean, how long do you have to have the laser blasting on someone before they just die?

Anyone have success with it?

I have but not on backwash as i have not played it yet.
The beam is good for taknig down the shield.
Then beatdown or pull out another weap and finish the person off IMO

Its great for beat downs  :P I dont think one full blast can kill somebody , but long range shield damage.... Yeah , it can do that.


P.S.

25 in Big Team Battle |D

it is. the picture I posted is linked from it's entry in the database.

Thanks ! Saw it last night after I had time to do some browsing. Now as soon as Scott is done borrowing my Doom 3 collectors edition Iwill add that to the Xbox list :)

I bought the disc cause my friends are to cheap to d/l them.  >:(

I keep getting my ass handed to me on the new maps!

It seems that I consistently keep getting shot before I can even detect anyone near me on my radar. Therefore, I'm finding it very difficult to get the initiative needed in order to take anyone down.

Anyone have any advice?

I bought the new maps and still haven't played on all of them.
And when i did play on a few of them it was me roaming aimlessly.

I got a GoldenEye feel from elongation
Reminded my of Comlpex for some reason...

Sorry i can't give advice here.

Well, at least it's good to know I'm not alone.

hopefully that trend continues tonight!

Could be modders with auto AIM. I really hate modders and they need to get a life !

I dont play matchmaking right now simply because of the rampant cheating. I will wait for the auto update that is supposed to take care of it.  :'(

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Because that worked with standby'rs and super bouncers when the first auto update came around?

All the people i know who have got busted modding (Captain you know the same modders i do and we don't play with them outside of custom)
Just got a slap on the wrist.
a week or 2 at the most banned.
When according to the box Live contract their service should have been canceled for a breach of contract on their end.

No wonder. I know on at least one occasion I saw "super bouncing" and thought "WTF!".

Auto AIM!!! Those pussies!

super bouncing? auto aim I understand but how is this achieved?

You have to either have Action Replay (I think that's what it's called) and/or mod your Xbox to be able to do either Auto Aim or Super Jump.

The Super Jump lets you normally jump with your 'A' button as high as if you jumped onto an elevator! Some punk had enabled himself to do this and there was no way to hit him.

Both of these quirks are cheats that should be disallowed by the time all the maps are downloadable for free (end of August). And that day won't get here soon enough for me.

Nice to see I am not missing anythying. Cheaters are one of the reasons I stopped play Halo 2.

You don't need action replay to super bounce.
There are alot of places where you can just crouch and walk into a wall and lah blah blah end result is you jump high.
But modding makes you jump MUCH higher.

Actually Tyn, it's still a great game. They just haven't made the Rumble Preview cheat-proof yet. The other online games have been taken care of for the most part.


Iz, the guy must have modded, then. Because he was just standing still and all of a sudden jumped straight up in the air as though he had a rocket pack on his back.

Modding can do some funky stuff like making your shotgun shoot out scorpions tank blast. Also make your Battle rifle into a sniper. (which sucks if they have auto aim)

I dont understand why they do it. I think the 2 month free subscriptions to Xbox live need to go away. Alot of these clowns are only on Xbox live because of the 2 month free trial. >:(

Well, according to Bungie, they're finally close to being able to spot modded boxes and those won't be able to access xbox live.

Time will tell.

Well i never played Rumble anyways. And the people I did play with are junkies and so much better then me it is no fun. That is one of the other reasons I stopped playing.

You were good , its just you dont or did not have the time to play as much.

I coulod of played more but I just didnt get hooked like I did on PSO.

http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?story=autoupdate4&p=4040317

I didn't see this posted yet, the auto update is tomorrow, hopefully this will help stop the %$%@#$ modders.

A-men to that!

I got a chance to try system link for the first time last night. we had 5 for most of the night with 7 guys for a few rounds. it was a little crowded in my living room but a hell of a time.

we played all the new maps too. I think I like Turf, Gemini, Backwash and the one with the train (Terminal?) best.

on Gemini I pretty much just walked around clubbing people with the Brute shot, seemed to work pretty well.

Oh YES !!!!!!!  |D I hope it works out and doesnt become a joke.

Yeah. That was a really tood idea. Now we need to start picking up games that have system link for 1-4+ players. There's a lot out there that are only 2 player split screen on one box, but support 4 players for multiplayer via system link.

You did plow through Gemini rather easily. Good work. I would've liked to have played that one more than once, there's a lot of crazy stuff on that map.

A fun 4 player game is King Fu Chaos.

Kung Fu Chaos he means.
I haven't played it multiplayer yet.
But single [player wasn't to bad.
It was worht my 8-10 bucks IMO.

Back to Halo 2
I have really cut back.
I pretty much play with a few people.
Sensei Fu being one and a few guys that none of you know.

Aww, I'm hurt. We play from time to time Izret  :D

LOL
I am sorry.
I did forget you.

I play with silence whenever we are on at the same time too.
So i can't possibly forget someone
Sensei Fu Quick0ne Takomas ExiledGolem MasterSpliff BearPat MastaKiller(i think its spelt) are the people i play with the most lately.
Other than that people are hit or miss.

I have not been on much lately  :o

I have yet to play with captain nintendo, I guess i keep forgeting to add him to my friends list.

Keep it that way. Capt is an ass when playing Halo 2   :P

I bought an Action Replay 3 days ago to load some custom game types to play on H2.  

I wasn't planning on cheating (I never would) but now they're banning people for simply having custom game saves from AR.  

So, there's another $30 wasted as it's fairly useless to me now.

Thanks to all the assmonkey tards at Bungie.   ::)

Really ?  >:(

How about thanks to all the asshat cheaters for making this a move that needed to happen ? I wouldnt pin this one on Bungie. I am thankful of the measures they are taking to fix the rampant cheating issue.


I havent played for a few days now , but if the modding is truely over with then I think Bungie did what was necessary and right.  :)

:'( You made me cry Scott.


Seriously though.

CaptainNintendo is my GT.

I am down for custom games and such.

Oh, I agree that the cheating needed to be dealt with.  However, I think it's a sad commentary for Bungie (a company that has achieved legendary status)  that they have been hacked in every conceivable way and seem ill equipped to deal with it.

You're trying to tell me that with all their technology added to the fact that we all have to log into their server that they cannot tell the difference between cheaters and people using fun custom saves in custom games?  

IMHO, it's inexcusable that they have so little control over their own game and network.  

Inexcusable you say ?


I dont know about that . Games have been hacked before and it will happen again. Anybody who has played online games before knows that there are people out there who can and will crack codes and mod.

Diablo 2 is just one example. Any online game that gets huge is going to have these issues. IMO

We're not talking about PC's here which are infinitely easier to screw with.  The XBOX is a reasonably secure platform to police (the non-modded box that is).  

With all that stability, it still seems that H2 has been a quagmire of problems nearly since it's release.  

IMHO, Bungie has dropped the ball and it's not the first time.  We'll just have to agree to disagree.  

I suppose so.

But bend your mind around this fact. H2 has more people playing it online than any game ever on a console (at least I am pretty sure of this fact).

The more people you have playing the more chances there are that there is some fuctard cheating somehow.

And the Xbox is almost like a PC... It has an operating system , hard drive and many other things that make it like a PC. It isnt that hard to hack or mod an Xbox for these very reasons. ;)

3 things.

1) It is easier to say no Action Replays then saying some are OK.

2) Action Replays are bad. Action Replays are for 2 things cheating and modding games.

3) Bungie is no where near a "legendary" company. 2 well know and good games don't make a "legendary" company.

That is all and have a good day.

Hey Iz,

Thanks for the tutoring on Lockout last night. I think I found a couple of crouch jumps on Backwash...check out the metal structures near the center building, if you crouch jump onto one of the "legs", you can walk up to the top.

Indeed Sensei is right you can't sit here and defend bungie for yet enother quick fix to something they fucked up on.
They should have known in advance soemthing like that was going to happen.

think bungie is blowing hot air.
I bet you are still going to run into modders.
Remember when they were going to STOP STANDBY'ers then they said they couldn't and would just make them not want to do it becasue of the repurcussions?
Remember when they weer going to remove superbouncing and said that it was cheating because it was an exploit. Then they changed their minds.

Bungie is pretty good but they could be ALOT better.

I am done on that subject now so don't other trying to get a respone out of me on it again.

To divert from subject i had a pretty good sniper match a few minutes ago.
http://bungie.net/Stats/GameStats.aspx?panel=medals&gameid=247970702&player=Izret101

AND LOOK AT DANCING KIRBY!!!!!
izret369: Dancing Kirby
<(**<) ^(**^) (^**)^ (>**)>

Izret just reminded me of the superbouncing mess.  

They were going to cure that because it is cheating.  A guy bounces to the top of the map where you can't get to him by ordinary means and snipes the hell out of you.  

Of course Bungie now treats it like a feature of the gameplay because they're too inept to actually fix it.  

I dont get that. Bungie is a company of say a few hundred people. They are trying to fight against millions of people looking for an edge.

Could they have done some thing better sure OK. But no matter how secure it is people will always find ways to hack it.

If Bungie is so inept why do you play Halo? Why do you call the company legendary?

Actually given the volume of people that are playing the game at any given time, I think bungie is doing a pretty good job. Alot of the problems that we face online: modders, standby haven't been an issue with console gaming until Halo 2. I dare you to think of an online console game that has the constant volume that H2 has. Computer gaming sure, but not console. So sure could they do better, of course. Do cheaters suck? You bet. Are they trying to make it better, damn straight. I guess something is better then nothing. Now I do wish that for custom gaming you could use a AR or Gameshark, but it has to be all or none, otherwise the solution is worthless.  
I do understand that modders will still be around as newer hacks are made, but before yesterday 1/3 times I played on turf or warlock I got modded. Since then it hasnt happened. My 2 cents.  :-/

If there was a game equal to it, I would.  The truth is that for whatever reason, I can't find a FPS for Xbox that equals the Halo experience.  

I call them "Legendary" because I can't think of a better word.  Revered?  Respected?  Almost worshipped?  

They produced a great game, but I think they should've put more energy behind the security of the online experience instead of all the sloppy patches which so far have shown to be less than optimally effective.  

Again, I realize that not everyone (or perhaps anyone) will agree with me.  

Murphy's Second Corollary
"It is impossible to make anything foolproof because fools are so ingenious."

I must say , I played for a little bit last night and did not come up against one modder |D

And over half of the maps we played were newer ones.
Got my clans major clan ranking back upto a 15 and the minor clan ranking back upto a 17 :)

I don't know why I don't play clan based games more. Maybe cause I'm never on when they are on.

Last night, after getting my butt kicked online...again, I decided to look at the "Recent Players" list. When I looked, most of the players had overall rankings in the upper teens and 20's, where I'm only a level 11 max (Rumble Pit), 7 on Rumble Preview (where I was playing). So I thought to myself "No wonder I'm getting clobbered!".

It seems like you're matched based on your ranking in a particular game type, without considering rankings in other game types. So a level 20 player could be a level 1 in Rumble Preview and therefore smoke the competition that's still learning. It doesn't seem to be a balanced way to match up the competition.

I know some of you have pretty high rankings, does it sometimes seem too easy to win matches? Does anyone know Bungie's reasoning behind matchmaking in this way?

Well, how would you suggest they do it?  

BTW, look me up.  I'm Sensei Fu on Live, I'll play with you.  

Yea.
And even if you see people with a low rank some people downrankk or play on second accounts. I know a guy who a few times a week goes down to the teens and works his way back to the 30s and boosts people along the way.

Alot of people go into one matchmaking setting and rank up alot and then go and work their other rank up.
You will get better the more you play.

So don't worry too much about wins or loses or your rank because it will pan out.

Yep phoenix ,

Sometimes I do find a different category of matchmaking easier because I dont play it often at all.

For instance I believe I am a level 8 or 9 in rumble pit.
Everytime I play rumble (not for some time now) I win or come in a close second. (mostly win). But I know when you get that rumble rank up into the higher numbers it isnt as easy.

My Slayer rank is 26 , but I find playing against legitimate players with a rank of below this easy or not really a big challenge. I simply do not play enough matchmaking to level up. I know in a slayer game when I play against level 30's it becomes harder.

I am a level 25 (almost 26) in Bigteam Battle and find it is all in the team you are with.

Each category is different for a reason , it does suck when a new player is tossed in against players of such a higher caliber though. :(  If rank means alot to you , I suggest team training until you feel confident.

Look me up and maybe I can show you some good weapon combos and strategy. ;)

CaptainNintendo is my gamertag.

I couldnt agree more.

I guess my suggestion would be that if a player has a high ranking in a similar game type (i.e. Rumble Slayer), that they would get matched against those with a similar ranking in the game type that they are starting to build a ranking (i.e. Rumble Preview). That way, a player at level 20 would be matched against other level 20s right away.

I guess the point that it "all pans out" is true, but as a less experienced/dedicated player, it's frustrating to consistently finish in the bottom half of the game simply because the high ranked players just haven't played the format enough.

It especially sucks when they start trash-talking and talking down to nOObs. I actually had to leave negative feedback for the first time last night because the guy that was winning was so vulgar and obnoxious and just wouldn't stop. I hated to do that, but I couldn't let it go because none of us newbies could get through to the guy during the game. Oh well.

That's my rant. Thanks, everyone.

Cap and Sensei, I'll definitely add you guys to my friends list. Thanks.

Welcome to the wonderful world of playing Halo 2 online.  I am happy to say I have not played online since 5-10

Tyn,

Don't get me wrong, I still enjoy playing no matter how well I finish. Unfortunately, you can't control who's playing with you unless you host private games. Gotta take the good with the bad, I guess.

By the way, since you're off of H2, what have you been playing online? Cap mentioned starting to get into Ghost Recon 2...

Try Head to Head.  You'll really get your ass handed to you.  Everytime I've played it, I get paired with someone with a very low rank who happens to actually be a mid 30's ranked player in other game types.   ::)

I think I have played that type once (and won).
But I see what you are talking about. If I were to play a lower level it wouldnt be fun.

But then again I really have no plans on playing head to head. :-/ I like team games.

No i havent played anything else online. I might start playing GR2 but I am not sure yet. I will play in private games but not public ones.

http://www.digitpress.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=66787

Somebody used ebay to sell Halo 2 lessons... ::)


The DP member b0bby kind of ticked me off with his tone.... I hate Halo players like him who state " I own n00bs" >:(

Kinf of funny how he hasnt posted in that thread since I asked for his gamer tag... :laugh:

hmmm, Halo lessons. I should win that auction and get the proper training I need to have a chance against Phoenix when we play tomorrow night.

I will be online tonight.

Sens me a voice message friend request. I will play some cutom games with you and show you some things ;)


GT = CaptainNintendo