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Title: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: SirPsycho on August 03, 2015, 11:39:46 AM
http://togetter.com/li/855984

If Konami does not do much to change the way they treat their own employees they will find themselves with a sudden lack of workers. I wonder what will happen then? If Konami tried some of these 'management' tactics anywhere outside Japan they would have been sued to death by now. Who knows what other companies are using similar policies.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Dev1anc3 on August 04, 2015, 01:36:39 PM
Konami is my favorite 3rd party developer / publisher...  If what was said in that article was true, on top of them pulling out of the console market to focus on the soon to be oversaturated mobile gaming market trend, then I don't know if I can say that anymore. Konami seems to be getting run into the ground Atari style. Supposedly the company is mistreating the people that made it what it is, and deliberately pushing them to do janitorial duties. I find that hard to believe, but if it's true...   why? These people should be well over qualified to handle the much simpler mobile gaming development. It doesn't make much sense.

...I would say that the higher ups in charge of making the company decisions should be pulled into a dark alley Italian mob style, and beaten severely.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: kaysow on August 06, 2015, 10:07:53 AM
used to be my favorite dev/publisher too until they dropped suikoden and started mistreating castlevania & silent hill. Metal Gear really was all they still had going for them so right now i'm just happy for every week that passes until september 1. wouldn't have put it beyond them to cancel it just to spite kojima but it should be too late for that now.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: bickman2k on August 06, 2015, 11:08:18 AM
[img width=700 height=843]https://i.imgur.com/z7Fiwc1.jpg[/img]


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: SirPsycho on August 06, 2015, 01:17:17 PM
Maybe the Castlevania sex pachinko machine will singlehandedly save Konami.

http://www.gamezone.com/news/konami-releasing-new-erotic-violence-castlevania-pachinko-machines-3422416


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Dev1anc3 on August 06, 2015, 11:17:39 PM
Yeah, they're fucking lost. What are they thinking? They are about to tarnish my favorite franchise by using the name to sell a slutty pachinko jack-off machine?  ...why?

You might as well put a glory hole toward the bottom that has a built in pulsing asshole, so at the end of the game, you could fuck Dracula in the ass.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Tynstar on August 07, 2015, 09:44:06 AM
Yeah, they're fucking lost. What are they thinking? They are about to tarnish my favorite franchise by using the name to sell a slutty pachinko jack-off machine?  ...why?

You might as well put a glory hole toward the bottom that has a built in pulsing asshole, so at the end of the game, you could fuck Dracula in the ass.

WOW and where do I pre-order? :)


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Necrosaro on August 27, 2015, 05:15:36 PM
Nothing about Konami in recent years surprises me anymore, they are pretty much a sinking ship with their current management. They were dead to me after killing off Suikoden, Castlevania, Contra, and a whole slew of other franchises. Even without those, I still loved their Bemani franchises and bought nearly all their console versions of Beatmania, Dance Dance Revolution, Pop'n Music, and Keyboardmania. Now the Bemani line is arcade-only and Japan-only, and I'm not sure how well those games are doing over there or just how much longer Konami wants to hang on to the Bemani name. Those games can't be that cheap to produce. With no Bemani outside of Japan, I have less than zero interest in Konami, and I won't buy MGSV at all unless Konami practically gives it away for free.

The way they handled the Kojima and Igarashi situation in their final years was pretty abominable as well. Those guys deserved better, and I hope they land on their feet elsewhere.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on August 27, 2015, 06:39:30 PM
My co-workers and I lament the Bemani situation...
Sound Voltex
beatmania
Dance Dance Revolution
pop'n music
jubeat
DrumMania
GuitarFreaks

COME ON KONAMI! THE LAST ONE RELEASED IN THE US WAS Dance Dance Revolution X2, 5 YEARS AGO, AND IT BARELY SOLD BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T MARKET IT!
I've been heavily thinking of making my own Sound Voltex controller, just to play.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gmwh-FvHhoQ


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: SirPsycho on September 04, 2015, 06:49:48 PM
Now they're purging MGS V fan art off of the internet. Its like they want to die.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5QXpbCkL3I


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: SirPsycho on September 19, 2015, 12:15:22 AM
Yeah. Konami is dead.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Link41 on September 19, 2015, 07:44:08 AM
The only AAA game that Konami reportedly has in development is PES, they seem to have zero interest in any other games.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on September 19, 2015, 01:21:02 PM
The only AAA game that Konami reportedly has in development is PES, they seem to have zero interest in any other games.

This is only because they have licensing agreements that have to be honored for PES.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: h1ghw1nd on October 15, 2015, 03:24:02 PM
Is there a good chance Konami will go bankrupt and have to sell the properties to companies that will actually use the franchises? We're talking about multiple beloved franchises here. It seems like that's our only chance right now :(


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on October 15, 2015, 03:57:26 PM
There's a chance, but they'd have to screw up with their current market plan for 2 years would be my guess, or go big and flop like THQ. THQ just went down so quickly because of all the licensing deals they had, which Konami isn't part of (just PES).


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: MetalFRO on October 15, 2015, 04:49:54 PM
Is there a good chance Konami will go bankrupt and have to sell the properties to companies that will actually use the franchises? We're talking about multiple beloved franchises here. It seems like that's our only chance right now :(

I would love to see a good developer get hold of the likes of the Gradius/Salamander license, or of course, the Contra games.  And how much irony would there be if Konami went under and Iga found a way to buy out the Castlevania rights and keep making games under that banner?


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Dev1anc3 on October 15, 2015, 08:17:28 PM
I'm still trying to figure out what the purpose was of that poll they took from gamers a few months back. Was that to see which of their IP's were the most desirable / marketable so they could put a price to offer them to potential buyers?   ...  or was this to see which one of their beloved franchises they were going to rape next by turning it into a pachinko machine?

Something I also think is weird is that Konami denied that they'd shut down production on AAA console games ("I know some blogs were claiming that online this morning, but I'm not really sure where they'd be getting that from. We're still definitely working on console games and franchises such as Metal Gear, Silent Hill, Castlevania, PES and all the rest."), but instead of shutting people up with proof, or an announcement of an upcoming game, they did none of that. All of the franchises that were mentioned in the statement just happened to be future pachinko machines...  so maybe we'll end up with console pachinko simulators. I could play Pachinko Castlevania: Erection of the Night on my XBOX One...   Wouldn't that be swell?!?

If Konami does actually sell off their franchises, what company, that could realistically afford the franchises, would be able to do them justice without pissing off fans even more? 10 years ago, I would have said Nintendo, or Capcom, but for the most part, it sees like the old school Japanese companies that could do no wrong in the 80's and 90's, seem to have lost touch with their fanbase, and the console market in general, and can barely handle their own franchises...  and I'd hate to see EA or Activision buy them up, and force some developer to shit out a half baked Metal Gear or Castlevania game every holiday season...  the future of the Konami franchises just doesn't look very bright at the moment.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: h1ghw1nd on October 15, 2015, 08:22:53 PM
I'd let Square-Enix have a chance at Metal Gear. They did the last Hitman & Tomb Raider games and they were excellent IMO. I think Capcom could probably do a Contra game. As long as EA doesn't touch any of them it's worth the risk for me haha.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Shadow Kisuragi on October 15, 2015, 08:53:58 PM
Wow... all the EA hate because you think they'll turn into "yearly" franchises, and yet look at DA:I and Star Wars, and the length of time that Bioware puts into their titles. Honestly, all of the "successful" AAA publishers all pimp out their major franchises as yearly titles, so you can stop the bandwagon there. Hell, there have been 5 Assassin's Creed games within the past year.

Square Enix, as a publisher, is terrible too. Their idea of customer service is "Is it something you can call in and fix? Toggling your Wifi didn't fix it? Then go fuck yourself." They're already cutting costs by removing any sort of platform-specific features, and targeting only one platform for console and mobile. I won't say that they're on their way out, but they're trying to beat the cost curve by streamlining even further at the expense of the customer. I like their games, but the publisher itself is terrible.


Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Gentlegamer on October 15, 2015, 11:27:29 PM
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Title: Re: Konami is way worse than we thought...
Post by: Dev1anc3 on October 16, 2015, 03:12:42 AM
Wow... all the EA hate because you think they'll turn into "yearly" franchises, and yet look at DA:I and Star Wars, and the length of time that Bioware puts into their titles. Honestly, all of the "successful" AAA publishers all pimp out their major franchises as yearly titles, so you can stop the bandwagon there. Hell, there have been 5 Assassin's Creed games within the past year.

I don't "hate" EA. I didn't say ALL EA games suck. I'm no band wagoner. Don't get your panties in a wad. Star Wars isn't an annual title... yet, but you don't think that there was pressure to get the game released in time for the upcoming movie? Besides, even if it was rushed, it has the Star Wars logo...   it could end up as playable as Superman 64, and it would still sell regardless. If you don't believe me, then look at Star Wars Kinect.

Dragon Age isn't a yearly franchise either. If Konami franchises were handled with the respect that Dragon Age gets, I'd have no problems with EA, Activision, or Ubisoft handling it...  I just wouldn't want these licenses falling into mediocrity like Assassin's Creed, Need For Speed, Call Of Duty, or the other games that these "successful" companies churn out regularly...  and I also wouldn't want to see any of these franchises handled like Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 5 was... ugh.

I'm just saying that I'd rather see a smaller company without as much on their plate have a shot at it. Then maybe these franchises could get the love and attention they deserve, without having to worry about making a deadline, or selling slightly altered versions of the same game every year.