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it's about freakin' time!

http://msn.foxsports.com/nhl/story/3758718

though they still haven't officially signed anything.

Are you actually going to watch hockey next year or the year after that? They get payed millions of dollar's a year and still they want more....Any Sport that goes on strike I can't watch for a while, remember the Baseball and Basketball Strikes about 10 years ago. I'm finally started watching those sports again....

I will be watching |D Matter of fact , I need to go check on tickets ;)

I doubt I'll dive back in enthusiastically.  I certainly won't be forking over any cash for tickets. I have no sympathy for either side and as is always the case with these things the fans are the biggest losers.

I will most likely watch. I'm curious as to the impact the cap will have on the game. The makeup of the league will drastically change. It will be interesting to see who ends up where and who stays. also to see who never plays again. the long layoff surely ended a few careers.

I doubt Detroit will suffer at all in fan support. Red Wings fans will flock back to the team. The teams with lesser fan support will probably be hurting even worse.

The NHL was not vastly popular nationally before the lockout. The screwed themselves good with this. They better suck serious ass with the fans if they want to survive. I just don't see that happening.

I have heard of this NHL you speak off...but I can't remember what it is.


I like what Manny Legacy said about the head of the NHLPA.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-redwings-legace&prov=ap&type=lgns

if players are speaking out against Goodenow it's a sure sign his days are numbered. I think it's safe to say the union has been broken.

Rob Ray was also bashing him.

is he even in the league anymore?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nhl/news?slug=ap-nhllockout-ray&prov=ap&type=lgns

That's all Rob Ray does is bash people.  |D

I wonder if the new cap will lead to a decrease in ticket prices?

The NHL needs LESS TEAMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

As a Pens fan, I'm looking forward to this season now. It was looking pretty gloomy for a while, much like the last couple of seasons (come back Jaromir, all is forgiven!) but since adding Crosby, Palffy, Gonchar, Thibault, Recchi and now John LeClair (wow!) it's looking damn good indeed.

Now I just need to find some way of watching a few games over here.  In England, at least there was a show at least twice a week showing games (and pretty much every day in the Playoffs).  I'm not sure if they're exactly hot on hockey over here though, the biggest US sport seems to be Basketball.

Holy crap I had no idea the Pens picked up all those people.

the movement of players has been astounding thus far.

Forsberg from Colorado to Philly
Roenick from Philly to LA
Pronger from St Louis to Edmonton
Lindros from NYR to Toronto

hard to keep track of who is where.

No kidding.  It seems like the Red Wings are the only team that hasn't picked up some huge star.  Not that I blame them.  It's hard to pick up a big star like that when you have to cut your payroll in half.

That is hilarious, the British league SUCKS.

Wow, I can't imagine someone wanting to play for the British league instead of some of the more prominent leagues.  But hey, whatever floats his boat.

it's probably the only league that will let him play drunk.

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Well... I'm quite shocked by the amount of press the Penguins have been getting recently. After being dead-beats for at least the last 2 seasons, it's absolutely insane at the moment.

The only thing is, I'm an Aston Villa supporter in football (soccer). We signed a load of really good players before this season and we're currently having our worst start in the Premiership ever. I can't help having a niggling feeling that the same is gonna happen to the Pens (despite doing ok in the pre-season).

0-3-4 so far, I knew it! Only team in the NHL not to win a game yet.

How the hell is that happening?

They seem to be letting in a lot more than they are scoring, despite scoring quite a few (and no I'm not being funny :P)

That would do it.

so the NHL now has a shootout to decide ties yet teams still get a point if they are tied at the end of regulation. why is this? so the if you win the shootout you get a win but not a loss if you lose it?

Pittsburgh has yet to win a game yet they have 4 points.

the Wings are 8-1.

from the NHL rulebook:

(NEW for 2005-06) During regular season games, if the game remains tied at the end of the five (5) minute overtime period, the teams will proceed to a shootout. The rules governing the shootout shall be the same as those listed under Rule 30 - Penalty Shot.
(NOTE1) The Teams will not change ends for the shootout. The visiting Team will shoot first. The teams shall alternate shots.

(NOTE 2) Three (3) players from each team shall participate in the shootout and they shall proceed in such order as the Coach selects. All players are eligible to participate in the shootout unless they are serving a ten minute misconduct or have been assessed a game misconduct, gross misconduct or match penalty.

(NOTE 3) Once the shootout begins, the goalkeeper cannot be replaced unless he is injured. No warm up shall be permitted for a substitute goalkeeper.

(NOTE 4) Each team will be given three shots, unless the outcome is determined earlier in the shootout. After each team has taken three shots, if the score remains tied, the shootout will proceed to a "sudden death" format. No player may shoot twice until everyone who is eligible has shot.

(NOTE 5) Regardless of the number of goals scored during the shootout portion of overtime, the final score recorded for the game will give the winning team one more goal than its opponent, based on the score at the end of overtime.

(NOTE 6) The losing goalkeeper will not be charged with the extra goal against. The player scoring the game winning goal in the shootout will not be credited with a goal scored in his personal statistics.

(NOTE 7) If a team declines to participate in the shootout procedure the game will be declared as a shootout loss for that team. If a team declines to take a shot it will be declared as "no goal".

Special conditions for the duration and number of periods of playoff games shall be arranged by the Board of Governors.

check point 6. the goalies aren't given goals aginst in a shootout and goals scored don't count in your stats. what is the purpose of this shootout?

I don't get it.

The only point is for the fans. I would rather see a shoot out then a lame ass tie.

true but shouldn't the shootout decide the game? why still have an OT slot in the standings? if the purpose of the shootout was to eliminate ties. only win's and losses should be in the standings. a team either win's or it loses, whether it happened in regulation, overtime or a shootout shouldn't matter.

The reason the NHL awarded a point to both teams after regulation in the event of a tie was to hopefully have them go for win in OT. The number of ties the league used to have suggested teams would just play overtime safe to salvage the one point.  The NHL's reasoning was that if both teams were gauranteed 1 point they'd go after the win to get the second point and not settle for a tie. If we have a shootout now to decide ties why are they still awarding one point to both teams when tied after regulaton?

so Pittsburgh had 4 points but no wins. makes no sense to me.

I do agree with that. Isnt there 4 number in the the hockey standing? Like 4-1-1-0? I never did understand that..

they has 4 before they added the shootout. now it's 3 agin with the third being the OT.