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ZELDEREX HELP/FAQ
1. Sign up as my employee because i will get bonus money and i will split 50/50 with you. After all it will be because of your work.
EDIT
I don't think i will be able to transfer money since i don't have a gold account. When i get my first bonus i will spend the 5$s to get a month long gold account and keep my end of the bargain.
2. Build a Hero Altar, mobile Lab, oil facility. These are MUSTS. Anything else is icing on the cake right now.
2. a. Not necessary yet but... click Prefs. Then Edit Profile. Scroll down just below the time and daylight savings options and activate Normal mode. Everyone starts in Noob mode. And yes it did add alot of options to your side bar ;)
3. Convert 100$s to 1000 credits buy a X-5 Blaster
4. Click on the Players link. Attack the hell out of anyone with more than 900$s. If they have below 900$s do not waste fuel. You are immune for your first 24 hours of game play so it is well worth it to harvest cash.
5. Upgrade expensive things now! (Hero Altar, Oil Facility, Blacksmith, Fortification, )It will be hard to get large sums of cash and hold onto them long enough later in the game. If you have a blacksmith be warned upgrading this can boost your rank considerably.
6 Any other questions ask me :)
AIM - izret369
MSN - izret101@    comcast.net(spaces added for protection reasons)
YIM - izret369
PM's here or on Zelderex will also work but it is less effective than "real time" talking.

Original Post
Fell asleep after solidly maintainging my start to Zelderex.
Woke up spent the money i acrewed over night.
Used the oil for attacking.
Now i am waiting to get my money and oil every 20 mins so i can max out my Merchants.
I have 44/120 right now
They are 200 a piece.

This game is pretty addictive and alot of fun.
It would be cool if some people could join up from here.
Using user number in my sig would be pretty sweet too. I would share the ingame bonuses i got with whoever did so.
Which is 10k$s after you get X amount of wins and have X amount of days as a member.

I am in a clan now with alot of people who are top players.
But thats only because i use to play with them before i took my break from the game.

I could probably get people into the clan ;)
If enough people from here joined we could even drop this clan and start an RFGen clan :)

Phoenix joined up.
I sent you a PM with some advice on how to start.
What you do from where i leave off is up to you unless you want more info.

If and when i get my bonus game money for your activity i'll send you half of it(5k)

Thanks Iz. I found the training center and hero altar I needed to get started.

What kind of game is it?

Resource managment, war, strategy, etc.

The sell themselves as an online strategy game.
It is free alot of fun and very addivtive.
Plus you get a 5k bonus later if you join unedr me :)

And thanks to Phoenix i now have Yahoo Instant Messenger so i can be reached on AIM, MSN, YIM and thru PMs here or on Zelderex for help.

A messenger system is definately the easiest way to do it.

Welcome to Zelderex Chamzord.

Thanks. I'm finally looking into this. Sounds really interesting. I probably won't get to play until tonight, though.

I don't know if I'm doing this right, but I've amassed about 500 or more total archers/pikemen/footsoldiers, maxxed out my oil workers, upgraded the oil facility to level 4, have about 60 merchants, bought a blacksmith and 3 weapons (1 for each of my 3 heroes), upgraded my training facility, upgraded my camp to a village, etc. I've even maxxed out the first 2 economy research options (stock and something else), and am going for level 2 in fuel sellback. I'm at about $250 and 77 fuel left.

Seems I've either overextended myself, or I'm off to a good start. We'll see when people start retaliating against me in a few hours...

Make sure you move all 3 of your men to defense when your not attacking and have money people are going to come after(over 900 again seems to be the golden number ;))
It will cost 50 per Hero so 150 total.

If you don't have a Hero on defense your guys won't defend.

You 150-200 levels behind me i think and it sounds like your doing just as good if not better.

Personally i wouldn't have worried about the fuel sellback unless you plan on being a more defensive player.
But it is good to have that as a fall back option.

I have all my heroes armed, with 2 on defense.

2 questions: 1. Does the blacksmith only equip heroes? 2. Any chance I can get into your clan? I'm starting to receive clan invites, but want to stay with the RFG group.  

I also found a couple of interesting wrinkles. One guy was low on troops and had over $900 so I wanted to invade, but he was on an ISLAND! So, because I didn't have a vehicle capable of taking my troops over I couldn't attack.

Another thing is that, it seems to me that at this point, having your oil manufacturing maxxed out will provide a well-needed source of income if you cannot attack right away. I decided to research oil up to level 3 in order to be able to sell product at $4 per fuel.

Lastly, I came across my first contested battle. I ended up winning, but my hero took a few points of damage (good thing I have a clinic) because the opposing hero had a higher classed weapon. My guess is he upgraded blacksmith early. My attack did damage to his hero altar but didn't destroy it. That inspired me to hire on 1 engineer.

1. A blacksmith's weapons will only equip you heros. Your other men come with weapons.
2. I will ask the guy when he signs on. If he is apposed to your joining(i don't see why he would be) I can just break out of this clan and form my own. If that were to happen i would end up just allying with the clan and its members.

moved up to 2399 in rank. started using seige weapons...fun!

Hah.
You sound like you are doing better than me.
I am ranked higher still for some reason though.
Im at 2071 right now.

Is this game all stats and figures or is there more to it?  Cause I'll join if there's more to it than just numbers, but I'd probably get bored otherwise.

I don't really know how to explain it.

But it is like a text based stratergy game...
Only with more pictures and less suck than a text game.

I'll stick to AA for my free online gaming. Although I'm sure if I started this I'd become addicted.

Welcome to the game TwoScoopSteve and Mezmoron :)

I think i might just start a RFGen clan.

I still haven't been able to get ahold of my buddy Nimm.
Haven;'t been at my house...

Do it! I know that I still don't have a clan so I'll definitely contribute. As of this post I'm at 2155. Battles are definitely getting more complex...gotta get the experience of my heroes up. I'm glad I invested to much in my oil refinery at the outset.

I PMed my buddy about it.
Depending on his response i will start a clan for all of us to join.

I know some of you others have joined up but are you being active?

hey iz, how many heroes do you have right now and at what experience? I have 3 at 5 exp, 1 at 1 exp, and 1 at 0 exp.

I'm trying it, but I don't know what I'm really doing!

Ken

Like I said, I don't know what I'm doing, but here's what I have:

Mobile Lab
Training Facility
Fuel Warehouse
Oil Facility
Bank
Hero Altar

3 Oil Workers
16 Merchants
1 Hero

I've researched:

Stock Rise - Max
Payout - Max

Ken

@ Phoenix I have  one at 48  one at 35  one at 11
Yup only 3 only far... i plan on picking up my last 2 by the end of today.

@ Ken your going to want to work on upgrading your oil facility and other expensive items right now.
Make sure that you always have as many heroes as you can aswell. And when your not going to play for awhile put your heros on defense ($50 a piece) otherwise no matter how many troops you have on defense that will not stop an attack.
With out a hero you cannot attack or defend.

As for my other stats
I have a Village
Mobile Lab lvl 3
Blacksmith lvl 2
Training Center lvl 1
Bank
Oil Facility lvl 7
Hero Altar lvl 5

I have researched
Offensive Battle Advisor(if you have money to waste go for it. Pretty much you can figure it out on your own.)
Stock Rise - maxed
Payout - maxed
Fuel Demand - lvl1

Oil Workers - Maxed 20 out of 20 (@ 750$s a piece i finished this on day 2 though)
Mechants - 81 out of 120 (@ 200$ a piece guess where i have been wasting my money?)

If you want your guys to get some experience attack finyno11.
You won't get money but you will get EXP.

He might out of you range right now though.
I think he will get boosted up even furtheer at the next ranking.

He got all my money from me.(right before i got my next hero) I attacked back in hopes that he had no defense while he was attacking.
Then he taunted me calling my a noob and if i attacked him again he would destroy me.
So of course i had to attack him 2 more times right away.
And then let him know as long as i could attack him i would harvest him for experience.
I wrote his name down on my monitor too.
So it is SOO on. lol

I love this game :)

BTW my stats have already changed since my last post
lol

This is where I'm at:
I have a Fortress
Mobile Lab lvl 3
Blacksmith lvl 2
Seige lvl 1
Training Center lvl 2
Bank
Oil Facility lvl 4
Fuel Warehouse lvl 2
Hero Altar lvl 5
Clinic

Researched:
Stock Rise - maxed
Payout - maxed
Fuel Demand - lvl 3

Maxxed oil workers and have 75 merchants.

How are you getting so much hero xp? And what vehicle are you using for attacks?

How in the heck did you guys get that much money in like 5 days?

Ken

Buy an X-5 blaster vehicle and start attacking everyone you can. You're going to want to also have a 2nd hero to defend your camp while you're other hero is out raiding. The X-5 is all you need to get started and ramp up quickly; you should get $900 per raid in the early game because few people have a hero back on defense.

Is it only player vs player?

Not exactly. There's over 3000 players in the game right now. Attacks are technically 1 to 1, but there's clan support available. We're trying to get an RFG clan up there to see how the latter stages will work.

After you're initially ranked (when you're 24 hour immunity expires), you can only attack someone 100 ranks below you or 80 ranks above you. It keeps the game more balanced.

Oh OK . I just meant do you attack a computer opponent.  PvP stuff opens the door to to much cheating.

God Halo 2 has ruined my online experience. :(

No cheating in this game. It's really a simple game to pick up. And a very straightforward program (6th iteration). It seems to me that they've cleaned up any bugs they may have had...

I restarted because I didn't know what I was doing...

Hopefully I'm doing better now.

Ken

Yea this game is pretty impossible to cheat in.
Since it is browser based and the whole site is java(or flash?).
The closest thing to cheating has been a single clan(The Apostles) dominating the top 10 and much of the front page at one point. There are generally 2-4 big clans that fight back and forth on the few pages.
The second closest thing was ALOT of people got pissed off at a guy who joined payed for a gold account and then payed for a bunch of ingame money. They were pissed because he "ruined the game". When i pointed out he allso essentially payed for a few month of server time people seemed to chill out about it.

They are fix any kind of bug or mistake that comes up VERY quickly.
And if it effects a persons money there is a spot were you can withdraw it to recoup your loss.

I was asked my buddy and he said i could invite you all.
They are a more serious and competitive clan.
As for the RFGen clan lets just see how my buddies clan works out for us.
If other members are taking it too seriously (which has not happened in the past) i will break off for sure.

During round 3 or 4 i was helping essentially the same group of people organize bomb strikes against The Apostles with the help of the 2 other major clans.
This was to the minute percision across a few time zones so that the bombs would go off in certain guys bases at certain intervals.(One guy people even had a members online activity figured out for the perfect plant time)


And to top off the long winded and probably mostly unnecesasary post,
if you need some help don't hesitate to ask Ken.
I am on AIM, MSN, and also YIM(thanks to phoenix).

Added a little help/faq section to the first post.
Probably should have done it earlier.
It would have helped some of you out more
My bad :-/

It would be really cool to see more people get into it :)
Interacting with more members from the site is cool.
Also i should have sent out clan invites to everyone who has signed up below me already.
Except scoops.
Since he has a clan. If you want in with the rest of us scoops just get ahold of me :)

Ok - Restarting has helped me a lot so far I think.

I now have:

20 Oil Workers
53 Merchants
3 Heroes

Barracks lvl 1
Blacksmith lvl 1
Oil Facility lvl 2
Training Center lvl 1
Mobile Lab lvl 1
Hero Altar lvl 2

I also upgraded to a Village.

Ken

Sounds like you are doing better.
Best of luck and i will try and help as much as i can with advice still if you need it :)



After 24 hours i have
Hero at 87
Hero at 74
Hero at 54
Hero at 34
Hero at 4
Hero at 2

I have a Village(yes still)
Mobile Lab lvl 4
Blacksmith lvl 3
Training Center lvl 2
Bank
Oil Facility lvl 7
Fuel Warehouse lvl 2
Hero Altar lvl 5
Barracks
Clinic

Researched:
Offensive Battle Advisor
Stock Rise - maxed
Payout - maxed
Fuel Demand - lvl1(still)

What should I do next?

Get money to upgrade to a lvl 3 Hero Altar and get another hero? (Costs $5500)

or

Get money to upgrade to a lvl 3 Oil Facility? (Costs $9000)

Ken

Get the oil facility upgrades while you can!

I upgraded my fuel warehouse to level 3 and maxxed out fuel research.  Now I can sell fuel at $5/unit. Hero exp has been hard to come by, mine are now at 9,9,8,6 and 2.

Another 24 hours and here is where i stand
Hero at 108
Hero at 96  
Hero at 76  
Hero at 55  
Hero at 5
Hero at 3  

I have a Palace(had a village less than an hour ago :D)
Mobile Lab lvl 4(maxed)
Blacksmith lvl 3
Training Center lvl 2(maxed)
Bank(maxed)
Oil Facility lvl 7(maxed)
Fuel Warehouse lvl 2
Hero Altar lvl 5
Barracks  lvl2(by the time i get back from the ortho)
Clinic(maxed)

Researched:
Offensive Battle Advisor - (maxed)
Stock Rise - lvl2 (maxed)
Payout - (maxed)
Fuel Demand - lvl1(still)

Upgrading my Village cost me something like 9 grand to go up the two times today. I probably could have done some more effective building upgrades...
But at least this boosts defense

would you recommend gettting the next oil facility upgrade ($12K) or upgrate my fortification to a palace ($9K) first?

If you can get the money fast enough definately the oil facility.
If you think it will take too long or think you might get hit just upgrade to a Palace

Getting the money to do a significant upgrade is getting tougher and tougher. During the day, I can't access my game at work, so I'm getting sniped (although I'm getting experience). And when I get home there's always a few players within range of me that could snipe me and take my $$$ when I'm attacking someone else!

Since i have been out of school since i started back up i have been lucky.
I check it many times a day and see how many players are online within atack range of me.
When i am going to sleep i move all my guys on defense.

Also something i usually didn't bother to do before i am doing now.
Using agents to see a possible targets # of heroes and such.
I got lucky today though and i hit a guy for roughly 10k when he was still attacking people.
I left him with around 2.5k

edit:
Oh yea my buddy finyno11 quit the game. Sometime in the last 24hours.
Though he could have started a new account.
I must not have been the only person he was getting hit by daily.

Seeing as everyone is having trouble with money too.
I use to do this before and just thought about it now.

Your free 1,000$/200 gallons were just reactivated approx 30 mins ago(10PM central).
Don't withdraw this until a few minutes before 10PM tomorrow.

That way you will get 1,000$s and 200 gallons back to back.
If you have 1k in the bank and sell your fuel before you get your 400 gallons that should come out to at least 4k that you can make and dispose of in 1-2 minutes tops.

Been doing that already. But my daily ration comes in at noon. And I make sure that I bank $1K before I go to work in the morning.

Fuel is becoming increasingly important in the middle game!

I get my pay around 11pm.
Works out pretty good for me.

In anycase i have aleady deviated from my "plan".
Instead i made around another 10k in attacks ;)

My new updated info is
Hero at 121
Hero at 109
Hero at 90
Hero at 71
Hero at 5
Hero at 3

I have a Palace
Mobile Lab lvl 4(maxed)
Blacksmith lvl 3
Gaurd Forge(just cost me $4300)
Bomb Factory(just cost me $4500)
Siege Factory(just cost me $5800)
Training Center lvl 2(maxed)
Bank(maxed)
Oil Facility lvl 7(maxed)
Fuel Warehouse lvl 2
Hero Altar lvl 5
Barracks  lvl2
Clinic(maxed)

Researched:
Offensive Battle Advisor - (maxed)
Stock Rise - lvl2 (maxed)
Payout - (maxed)
Fuel Demand - lvl2

Ok!  I'm doing much, much better I think.

Buildings:

Mobile Lab Level 3
Blacksmith Level 1
Guard Forge Level 2
Training Center Level 1
Data Center Level 1
Bank
Oil Facility Level 4
Fuel Warehouse Level 1
Hero Altar Level 5
Clinic Level 1

Researched:

Stock Rise Level 2 (maxed)
Payout (maxed)
Fuel Demand Level 2

Hereos:

18
14
9
9
1
0

I need more Exp, but I think I'm getting along nicely!

Ken

Way to go! I still need to build up the data center...

how do you like having the gaurd forge?

I just got it, so I haven't had to use it yet.  But I did buy 10 Guard Dogs and 10 motion sensors.

Ken

I started a RFGeneration clan.
I don't know where Nimm has dissapeared too.....
He wouldn't just up and dissapear from the internet something must be wrong with him...

In anycase i tried sending you guys invites but it said "This player is already in a clan" so i don't know if it went thru or not.

Send it to me again.

Hey Iz, send it to me as well. I quit the other clan.

Welcome to both of you :)

Thanks, Iz.

Heroes currently: 70, 67, 64, 36, 20 and 5.

Have either of you guys started building up the data center and/or started using agents at all?

I have 2 agents.  I really haven't used them much though.  I only have hacker level 1 and firewall level 2.  Right now, all I'm doing is buying merchants to max them out.  I need 25 more to max them.

Ken

I still haven't upgraded my firewall yet. I need another 20 merchants to max out. I've been focusing on building up my armies on both O and D.

I did try using an agent on Offense, and it did provide me really good info. Since you can send them in on the X-5 blaster for only 7 gallons of fuel, you could save yourself the fuel that you would've used in the attack if the intel that he provides would've ended up in a losing battle for you.

At this stage of the game, I'm thinking about sending in an agent more regularly.

Pheonix.....You can send an agent on foot for only 4 fuel.

I also need 20 merchants now.  Then I'm going to do exactly what you're doing.  Beef up high on O and D men.

Ken

thanks. just tried it on my next agent mission. got caught this time; 2 xp, though.

I'm down to needing 14 merchants, then it's time for 2 days of beefing up my offensive and defensive troops.

Ken

Agents getting caught is good and bad.
Then gain EXP so they are more effective later.

I just bought the last of the buildings this morning i lucked out and was able to hit Grabarz for like 5k total.
Hit got 3,600 from me less than 20 seconds before i signed on.

I don't use agents too much. I have started doing base sweeps semiregularly since i found 3 cameras in my base. That was after i got clusterbombed >:(

Oh yea i suggest you guys don't invest on Vehicle Expansion until you have way more units. It doesn't allow for more Hero space in vehicles. Only the other units. Which is useless for me right now.

Something i should note to you guys.
Us listing our stats here is gtreat fodder for anyone on ZX who happens to click our Clanpage link hahaha
All the info they would need to decide on an attack ;)

Here are my current stats:
Oil Workers - 20/20
Merchants - 120/120
Hero at 121
Hero at 109
Hero at 90
Hero at 71
Hero at 5
Hero at 3

Agent at 3(offensive)
Agent at 0(defensive)

I have a Palace
Mobile Lab lvl 4(maxed)
Blacksmith lvl 3
Gaurd Forge
Bomb Factory
Siege Factory
Training Center lvl 2(maxed)
Data Center(newest building)
Bank(maxed)
Oil Facility lvl 7(maxed)
Fuel Warehouse lvl 3
Hero Altar lvl 5
Barracks  lvl2
Clinic(maxed)

Researched:
Offensive Battle Advisor - (maxed)
Defensive Battle Advisor - (maxed)
Stock Rise - lvl2 (maxed)
Payout - (maxed)
Fuel Demand - lvl4 (maxed)
Vehicle Expansion lvl 1

did you create a 2nd account? I noticed a terz205 in our clan...

My younger bro.
He played for awhile way back as an employe of mine too.

Unfortunately i couldn't get him as an employee because one of your employees can't sign up on the same IP as one you have used.

And i couldn't get ahold of either of you guys to get your Employer ID either.
So his account is useless
LOL

EDIT
BTW you guys have to make sure to pay your Clan Aid.
It is way cheaper for some reason than it was in the other clan.
Or so it seems...

EDIT 2
I thought i would add that i got bombed 3 more times.
I would assume by Grabarz.
Don't piss of rich people. LOL

I am probably ranked higher than i should be. The ranks arn't always right ;)
Whatever though. I am still moving up and now i am taking a more laid back only attack people who are online with alot of money and spend it quick take on the game.

In the mean time i am training up a more ubermassive army like you guys and upgrading "cheap" stuff.

Yeah. The uber-massive army seems to be more prevalent at this stage. I'm working at that moreso on the 'D'.

I think that if I don't get "hit" today, I'll upgrade my hero altar. Lately, my spy has been noticing people with 7 or 8 heroes.

Going up against maces is starting to piss me off...

Is there any way to heal an agent outside of $$$? It seems that they don't tick-heal like heroes do...

I think the only way to do it is with cash
Mine has been injured for awhile now.
And they are expensive to heal
:-/

Yeah. I think it's something like $6 per point...

I've been beefing up the defenses and the offense.  I REALLY need to upgrade my camp...I'm still at a Village...I should be able to fight for $6000 worth tomorrow morning.

Ken

I got enough to get the Fortress.  Now I need to get funds to increase to a Palace.  I am going to try and play this game as defensive as possible.

Ken

Playing as defensive as possible:
I did this today.
Got 800 gallons.
Sold it for 5$s per gallon
$4000 total.
Had approx 2k from ticks today.
Plus 1k in the bank.
grand total approx 7 grand

Now i have
180$
+ 120 gallons
+ tick money & tick oil
+ 1000$s and 200 galons to withdrawl tonight

I was reading their forums the other day, and the consensus was to never sell fuel...but they didn't explain why not...

2 reasons.
It detracts alot of fun and strategy from the game.
and
You make a TON less money that way.
18 gallons of fuel makes me 90$s selling it
or possibly 3,600+ if i attack with it(using one of the airplanes i don't remember what it is called)

Thunderhawk.

That makes sense, but if you lose the battle, the fuel is gone...often with a lot of troops that you will have to replace.

Hey, here's a tidbit. I used an agent in a successful attack on a player with ??? in $. The agent gave me the exact $ that the player had. In other words, agents can get around firewall protection. I'm guessing it's because the guy didn't have a guard forge, though.

BONUS! I just leveled up my hero altar, so I can finally get a 7th hero!

I did that around lunch time :)

Here are my current stats:

I have a Palace
Mobile Lab lvl 4(maxed)
Blacksmith lvl 3
Gaurd Forge lvl 3
Bomb Factory lvl 1
Siege Factory lvl 1
Training Center lvl 2(maxed)
Data Center(newest building)
Bank(maxed)
Oil Facility lvl 7(maxed)
Fuel Warehouse lvl 3
Hero Altar lvl 6
Barracks  lvl 3
Clinic(maxed)

Researched:
Offensive Battle Advisor - (maxed)
Defensive Battle Advisor - (maxed)
Stock Rise - lvl2 (maxed)
Payout - (maxed)
Fuel Demand - lvl4 (maxed)
Vehicle Expansion lvl 1

My offense/defense upgrading is working out very well.

I now have 700 Footmen, Archers, and Pikemen on Defense.  I'm going to push them all to 750, then start on my offense.

Ken

I am working on getting 700 footmen and pikemen myself.
If i wasn't training engineers and upgrading i could be well over that by now.

How do you get engineers and medics?  Also, what do engineers do?

Ken

Engineers repair 1 building point per tick

Upgrade your training center.

Here are my current stats:

I have a fortress
Mobile Lab lvl 4(maxed)
Blacksmith lvl 3
Gaurd Forge lvl 2
Siege Factory lvl 2
Training Center lvl 2(maxed)
Data Center
Bank(maxed)
Oil Facility lvl 4
Fuel Warehouse lvl 3
Hero Altar lvl 6
Barracks  lvl 2
Clinic
 
Researched:
Binoculars - (maxed)
Stock Rise - lvl2 (maxed)
Payout - (maxed)
Fuel Demand - lvl4 (maxed)

I could have upgraded another building but instead i spent 4500 on engineers.
I have all 10 now.
15,000 worth :-/

Debating if i should go for medics.

I now have:

Fortress
Mobile Lab lvl 4
Blacksmith lvl 2
Guard Forge lvl 2
Siege Factory lvl 2
Training Center lvl 2
Data Center lvl 2
Bank
Oil Facility lvl 4
Fuel Warehouse lvl 2
Hero Altar lvl 5
Barracks lvl 2
Clinic

Offensive Battle Advisor
Stock Rise lvl 2
Payout
Fuel Demand lvl 2

120 Merchants
20 Oil Workers
1 Engineer

2 Agents
6 Heroes

Offensive:
160 Archers
324 Pikemen
273 Footmen

Defensive:
750 Archers
750 Pikemen
750 Footmen

Ken

I have a Palace
Mobile Lab lvl 4(maxed)
Blacksmith lvl 3
Gaurd Forge lvl 3
Bomb Factory lvl 1
Siege Factory lvl 1
Training Center lvl 2(maxed)
Data Center
Bank(maxed)
Oil Facility lvl 7(maxed)
Fuel Warehouse lvl 3
Hero Altar lvl 6
Barracks  lvl 3
Clinic(maxed)
 
Researched:
Offensive Battle Advisor - (maxed)
Defensive Battle Advisor - (maxed)
Stock Rise - lvl2 (maxed)
Payout - (maxed)
Fuel Demand - lvl4 (maxed)
Vehicle Expansion lvl 1

Stats greatly changed again
Yes already ;)

Upgraded my hero altar and got my 7th hero!  

Ken

I stupidly saved up during the day.
I got hit and had 4.5ish of my 7 thousandish stolen :-/

I spent the left overs on soldiers for defense.

Iz, what have you put into your guard forge & firewall? My f-wall is at level 5 or 6 & I put a lot into cameras & motion sensors via the data center. Last night I was attacked by an agent that didn't get through, but haven't had a military attack on me in a couple of days (knock on wood)

That was the second time i have been attacked in 3 or so days.
The other one was not successful.

My Gaurd Forge is level 3.
10 gaurd dogs
10 motion detectors
now working on 10 security cams.

I upgraded my data center but haven't really bothered with upgrading hacker or firewall levels.
I always use to assume if the person has a firewall they have money to hide.
lol
I will probably start working on that since i have money to burn.(kinda...)

Yesterday I finally picked up the bomb factory and upgraded it to level 3. Haven't invested in any bombs just yet, though...still building up my armies.

I haven't bothered with my bomb factory either yet.

The only building i don't have is the Temple.
I shouldn't have bothered buying a bunch of the buildings i did or upgrading them either.

EDIT
I shoul add i never really liked bombs.
They can be found with a base sweep. Which can be expensive if you have a high blacksmith.

But they can be devestating if your really pissed at someone.

My ongoing project has been to see if I can get 9K built up without the risk of getting sniped so I can upgrade my fortress to a palace. There always seems to be someone online "waiting in the weeds"...

I can store 800 gallons.
Thats 4k right there.
+2000 daily withdrawl
+1000 bank

Means i only need to have 2k visible to pull that off.
Even less if i can be patient and let oil bbuild up to convert later.
And wait to withdraw...

For the $2000 daily withdrawl, I take it that  you are counting selling off the 200 gallons @ $5 each?

I guess it's just a matter of not attacking...I just have to be patient.

I deciceded to mostly give up on attacking when i went after someone who had 1 fewer Heroes than i did and i lost.
BAD.

Defending works just fine for me now :)
Untill i can horde up enough money to really screw people over ;)

Caught a break today with enough tick income, daily allocation, bank, and oil sales to be able to upgrade to a Palace!

Lately, I'm almost always sending in an agent before going in on the attack. If the situation is favorable, I go for it. If he gets caught and injured...experience! For 4 gal.($20), it's been a good investment.

Hey sorry i just dissapeared phoenix.
I thoughi had BRBed but i guess not.

IMO you don't want to go up against hammers.
I am going to guess you have clubs

Even though you out number him with heros you will still lose.

I got some attacks in today.
Upgraded my blacksmith.

I need better weapons but i am afraid how high it might boost me. In anycase i think i am going to research Binoculars tomorrow.
I got slaughtered because i didn't know how many archers a guy had on defense.

Yeah. Binoculars give good info!

I've got 5 hammers and 2 clubs. I guess the next upgrade is axes?

I just upgraded my Hero Altar again!  Now I just need $2500 for my 8th hero!

Ken

Got my 8th hero!  Now it's time for more troops!

Ken

Congrats :)
I don't know if i will upgrade my hero altar tonight or Seige Factory.
Since i want to get some sweet sieges to win some battles.

Siege factory level 3 gives you access to purchase catapults. I need to get back to attacking today as well.

I'm definitely gonna go crazy with troops for like 3 days.

I'm gonna buy all the footmen and put them on defense.  Then I'll do the same with archers.

Ken

I've been focused on building & security (guard forge) development the last couple of days, building up troops here and there.

Thats right i named my guys after MK characters.
It is only proper and fitting. I need to fix that Oscar name though...

:ownedsign: :ownedsign: :ownedsign: :ownedsign: :ownedsign:



:ownedsign:(but much less)


I was really proud of these 2 attacks :)
I upgraded my Hero Altar thanks to them |D

EDIT
Man that looks so much prettier in game.
With all the color and fancy doo-dads.

You need to get one of the females in there. Maybe change Oscar to Lei Mei or Kitana? Or the classic Sonya Blade?

My characters are named after my favorite sitcom of all time, WKRP in Cincinnati.

I got a message asking if we wanted to join some other clans going to war against the Moogle Mafia.

I sent the message and forgot to uncheck the delete button. Why that is checked by default i don't know.

I will post the guys response to the few questions i have and let you guys chime in on your thoughts. ;)

Ok here be the messages in chronological order.

Hmmm interesting. I have no objections to getting involved so long as we know what the plan is...

I just upgraded my blacksmith! I can finally buy axes now. I can't believe that there are still players that don't move their heroes back to defense at this level! I pimped a guy for $5400.

Hey Iz, what's your vehicle situation?

2 Night Hawks for my 8 heros.

I was busy running around and doing b-day stuff to attack.

I dropped a bomb off in some guys base because he pwned my finances yesterday morning 2 hours before i woke up.

There's a player named BUTTERCUP with over $31K. The trick is, her fortification is a Mothership. Looks like my next investment is a Condor.

Yea but whats the defense ;)

Upgraded my Oil Facility today, as well as my guard forge twice.

Ken

I'd love to get my oil facility upgraded at least 1 more level. Still sitting at level 4.

Upgraded my hero altar today to level 8, which will get me my 9th hero.  

Just put my siege factory to lvl 3

Ken

I bought the Condor and tried to attack BUTTERCUP's mothership, but it wouldn't let me??? I thought that since it was a space vehicle I could get there. It said something like "Insufficient Vehicle"...

WTF?
That doesn't make sense...

You might want to post about that on the forums or get in contact with c7tr7c.
I don't remembet how his name is spelt for sure but he is the owner/programmer of the game if memory serves

Bonuses reactivated.
Do them ASAP for 4k.
After a few days the value drops back to 2k instead
My bonus just bought me a Blacksmith upgrade.
Hello Axes

Where is the bonus link? I couldn't find it this morning...

I just upgraded my Oil Facility to lvl 6.  Yay for cheap Oil!

Ken

I just hit someone for $11000  LOL  Upgraded my hero altar!

Ken

I gotta get me $12K somehow...I could definitely use a level 5 Oil Facility...

On the left bar under the Extra.
5th one down

You should be able to get your 10k from me Izzy.  I am pretty sure I've met their criteria.

Ken

Oh shit.
Your right i can withdrawl for both of you i just checked after reading your post.

I told you guys i would give you each 5k but i have put up 5$s to get a gold account first.
So i am going to hold out a month if i can.
(Saving for Prom. I wasn't going to go but changed my mind.)

How about you take the $10k and upgrade something for yourself.  It's cool man.  No need to sink money into this game if you can help it.  I don't need the $5 that badly to make you pay $5.

Ken

I 2nd that.

Well i do plan on paying for the 15$ for the 3 months next round.
So you can both count on at least 5k then ;)

While typing i noticed i got attacked a few mins ago.
I lost 2.5ish thousand.
Attack the person back and got nearly 11k in 2 attacks
So i upgraded my Hero Altar again :)
9 heroes whoooo

hah here is the messages he sent me:

Good job.

"Attack only once"? Huh? I mean, if you don't do it, someone else will right?

That 4K bonus helped me to upgrade my oil facility to level 5, finally!  

More and more building damage is starting to hit, so I've been investing in engineers. I'm at 5 now.

dude, enough with this Zelderex nonsense. I've beaten both Far Cry's and you still haven't finished the first one.

I hit hit last night for $5k....I had 9 heros, he had 7, but he also had BB Guns....

I'm upgrading more troops again.

Ken

Don't invade our thread Den!  Zelderex owns!  Lol

Ken

Careful den, they may invade the other threads in retaliation and steal all our money.

Hahahaha  You ass :P

Ken

Upgraded my Hero Altar.
It is getting harder to decide what to upgrade.
I probably should have done my fortification.

People coming at me with these sieges are getting in to easy.

I've been getting attacked a lot by elmstreet. If either of you guys feel like lighting up that F####R, be my guest. I'm going to see if I can retaliate against him in the morning for some bucks.

Sorry he is too far back for me or i would have at least dropped some bombs of in his base.

I bought a hero this morning.
Now i am just chilling out.

I retaliated against him this morning to get $3300. We'll see what happens next...

BTW, I highly recommend using agents before any attack. My agent has enough experience now to be able to identify the firewall level of the opponent.

I really need to upgrade my blacksmith....I can't attack successfully w/o better weapons it seems.

Ken

I'm at Axes, but I haven't armed all my heroes with them yet.

Has anyone researched Vehilce Capacity yet? If so, does it increase the # of heroes you can carry?

I didn't research it, but it doesn't increas hero capacity.

Ken

Hey Iz, do you know when the round ends? Is it 5/31?

June 1st does start the new round.

Ken

I said that before too ;)


Right now i want to finish maxing out my units before i go out of my way to do anything else.
I figure in 3 days tops i could finish maxing my units.

Finally made it to level 6 on Oil Facility!

Decided to jump in on this game.  I've already registered, but how do I add you (Iz) as my employer AFTER I've already registered?

You can't.
You can only do it while you register. :-/

Send one of us a message on ZX thogh and you can still get an invite to the clan atleast :)

Well, shit.
:(

Upgraded my Siege Factory.

Seiges are very beneficial for attacking.
So i want t get that up higher too before i start attacking.

My defense is decent to say the least.

So, yeah...I am doing well now...

Ken

Hahaha These people are morons....

Ken

So yeah.  I decided to launch an all out offensive today.  And it worked.  Better than I could have wanted.  I hit up 4 different people this morning to take over $41,000!

I spent:
$12,000 on my Blacksmith
$15,000 on my Blacksmith
$7,500 on my Siege Factory
$2,700 on my Blacksmith Weapons (Maces)
and the rest on troops!

Ken

Holy Crap.
Nice steals :)

Damn straight! Any tips?

I bought a couple of trebuchets to upgrade my sieges. There's a guy that has an island that never keeps any heroes on D! I've got him for about $20K so far...

Lol  I think I just got lucky...I didn't even send in agents this time.  However, I did realize that just cause someone has 8000 troops, that doesn't mean they'll whoop ya.

Ken

Elduriel
sent me a message saying our clan didn't look like it was doing well and how we should join him.

He is the leader of Keepers of Hades or some crap.
I wanted to post his name because getting his message made me want to rank up to hurt him.
But i will just chill out back here till i can get sizeable upgrades to kill with :)

Yea you never know how many of those are actually on defense ;)

For starting in the game about a month and a half late, I think we're doing pretty darn well.

Ken

Agreed.

 Especially for your first tiem thru.
Which was what i said.

I should have copy pasted it.
Hopefully he sends me another message back.

How do you guys generate cash?  I've already taken advantage of the Bonuses and here's what I've gotten after about a day of trying to figure this out:

1 Hero
80 Archers
40 Pikemen
100 Footmen
1 Agent
16 Merchants
1 Engineer

1 Mobile Lab (Level 2)
1 Blacksmith (Level 1)

And I'm a "Village."

I also have 1 X-5 Blaster

Needin' some cash, 'cause I'm a spending freak.  :drool:

Attack! Attack! Attack! Most people don't have a hero on Defense in the early going, so you can rake up the $$$ quickly. Be sure to upgrade your hero altar so you can get that 2nd hero to protect your $$$.

If you haven't done them already, there are also a couple of Researches to help you out. Stock and the one below it (don't remember the name). Invest in that and you'll up your daily income from $800 to $1K.

And welcome to the game! This is a good time to get in because the game is going to reset on June 1, so playing for awhile now should give you some good ideas/strategies of what works & what doesn't.

BTW, don't worry about upgrading your blacksmith or fortification. It's going to rank you up and you may not have as easy of a time getting $$$ in the future.

In my opinion, you need to be all-out offensive.  Don't buy merchants quite yet.  You need to upgrade your Oil Facility and Hero Altar as soon as possible.  

Ken

Agreed.

Holy cow, I just founds links on Zelderex I wasn't aware of.   :speechless:

EDIT:  Well, I attacked someone and won, except "Our troops were very confused on what to do.  Our hero didn't posses any leadership skills."

I think I got lucky.

Ok, I'm attacking like a madman and bringing in the big bucks now.  None of the people I'm attacking have a hero...?

You need to do as much damage in the early going as possible.  Keep attacking, as long as you have fuel and you'll do great.  Remember, Oil Facility and Hero Altar.

Ken

This seems too easy....I'm running over everyone!  Not that I'm complaining...

Level 4 Hero Altar
Level 3 Oil Facility

Ok - Hero Altar 4 is fine for now - Get that Oil Facility up.  Then get your Siege Factory and Bank built.

Ken

By the way - What is your username in game?  We need to get you in the RFG clan!

Ken

Yes. Your hero altar should be fine for awhile. Build up that Oil Facility as high as you can. The later you get into the game, the harder it gets to upgrade.

And yes. The bank and siege will be important as well. Siege is a gradual thing, though. Level 1 and a couple of rock throwers will be okay for you for awhile.

And the game does get tougher...I promise you that!

Here's where my building stats are:

Oil Facility Lvl 4
Hero Altar Lvl 5
Baracks Lvl 2
Training Center Lvl 2
Mobile Lab Lvl 2
Blacksmith Lvl 2
Seige Factory Lvl 2
Bank

And I'm PCP1..love to join the clan!  Also have a couple of heroes.

Oil Facility is ALL you need right now.

Ken

I can't find you....What's your rank?

Ken

Site says I am unranked for another 30 minutes and that I can't attack anyone for another 30 minutes. ???

BAH  Your name is POP1 not PCP1

Ken

And your rank is 3042

Ken

Here is that volley of messages:

Nope, that's not me.  I'm part of the Hillbillies Corp.  |D

And I'm ranked #2021.

EDIT:  And I just got attacked with a few seconds of being ranked.  Damn!  Lost all my money, at least what wasn't in my bank.

Ok - I got ya this time - You weren't showing up for some reason.

Ken

You're ranking up fast! Good work.

Yea PCP your going to want to keep as little money visibly as possible.
Spend it on units or upgrades.
never leave a few k visible unless you have as many on defense.
(With a few heros as well.)

If you feel you have the extra $$$ to spend and you don't want your $ known, you can upgrade your firewall in the data center. If their hacker level is higher, though, they will still be able to see it. Also, if they have an agent get through, they will be able to identify your money.

I'm loosing more battles than I'm winning, but not by much.  I added another offensive hero, but when I do battles, I get the message that my heroes don't have enough leadership skills.  Is there any way to fix that, or does that just come with experience?  Oh, and I'm now ranked 1963, even though I feel like I'm getting my butt kicked on alot of these battles.

You'll get better w/ experience.  

Me, on the other hand, I can't win a battle now to save my life it seems.  

I don't know how I'm going to gain enough money to upgrade things.  I think I need another Thunderhawk and 3 more heroes.  Lol  Good luck to me....

Ken

@Mez, just sent you the aid you requested. What happened?

I requested aid?  I don't even know how to do that...

I was attacking earlier and my heroes got low on HP.  Very odd why it said I requested it.

Ken

Hmmmm...I clicked on the clan page and it was flashing red with the word "requested". So I sent the cash over.

I just did a game poll.
The first question i said absolutely.
The second one i don't know what it said but i said absolutely on accident.

I did the game poll for troop movement and said Absolutely Not.

I was absolutely for moving troops to offense and defense.

I wish i saw that second poll i voted on....

I am 100% pro troop movement because my strength rating is was 500 when my rank was more than 2x that :)
So that would mean having more troops would have more effect on your rank.

My thought is that it would make the game too defense-based and discourage attacking.

For example, if I know I'm not going to be online, I'll keep all my troops and heroes on D, right? Well, in order for someone to be able to mount a successful attack on me, they're going to have to bring everything they've got as well (considering the hero#s are equal) in order to have any opportunity to get any $$$ from me.

Then, if that becomes the way the game plays, the next strategy would be to cripple buildings with bombs. Again, everyone would build up guard forges and pump tick income into that.

If you don't have the ability to shift troops from O to D and back, you have to manage your resources much more efficiently. Which is what makes the strategy element of this game so much fun.

If they made you have to pay for troop movements like you pay for hero movements, then that could be a good way of keeping the strategic element, though. Like $1 per archer/pikeman/footman?  

You would have to pay for it.
I can't think of anyway that would work besides paying.

They don't let you do anything for free in the game.
lol

Oh yea after letting my money acrew all night i bought 450 footmen.

I can't let my money acrue at all.  In fact, I keep getting attacked relentlessly!  Something that's pissing me off a bit...at 6pm every night, I click on the button to withdraw my investments (fuel/money).  When I click on the button, my computer sits for several seconds, and then pops back up to my Main Office page, and someone has attacked me and taken all my investment money AND what little money I DID have.  My money then sits at $0.  This has happened twice in a row.  It's as if they're waiting to take it from me.  I can't get anything built up.  Plus, overnight, I had apparently acrude over $2,000, which is now all gone thanks to several attacks launched on me overnight.  Augh!  This game is frustrating! >:(

PCP, are you keeping heroes on defense? You have to pay $50 per hero, but it's worth it to protect your $$$. Also, you may want to use an agent to do a 'sweep'; someone may have put a camera in your main office to identify when you are online or not. Lastly, if you have a data center, you may want to build up your firewall so people don't know how much money you have. And be sure to stash $1K in your bank.

Just suggestions.

I just attacked someone that I thouht I could beat because I had 8 heroes to his 6 and we had about the same number of total troops. He kicked my ass with bows! I don't know what level of blacksmith you have to have in order to get bows, but they were doing 24 damage to my heroes. OW!

People can see if your onine o not by just going to the Players sectoin,

How in the world do I do those things?  And thanks for the help!

Don't feel bad...I had my pride handed to me on a platter by someone who had no weapons and beat me with fists and a lot fewer troops...and I have staffs!

Bought myself a Data Center...things seem to be going better. :D

To move your heroes, you have to go to the Units section in the left margin. When it opens up, check mark the heroes that you want and then select the button "Move to Defense ($50 each)"; then submit and your heroes will then be on defense. To move them back to Offense, you'll have to go through the same steps.

Man! It's getting tougher and tougher to find someone worth attacking! Everyone seems to be turtling and just accumulating defensive troops...you guys seeing the same thing? Another thing I am noticing though is that almost no one that I've been attacking has spy defense.

Because of all this defense-building, I'm focusing on maximizing my offense!

I'm seeing alot of people with MASSIVE offensive troops (4000+), but no heroes...so, I march in, they run, and I take all their money.  |D Of course that's after I send in an agent to scope things out first.  Yeah, alot of Defensive stuff going on and zero on spy defense.  It seems like once I built a Data Center and focused a little more on agents, things have gotten much, much better.

By the way, I have around 350-400 troops when I "invade" these 4000+ troop camps.  That's got to be humiliating when they all run and I take their money!

Hey guys, how are your heroes and agents looking as far as experience? I think mine are a little low.
H: 167, 166, 154, 137, 108, 72, 54, 49, 11, 2
A: 153, 22, 2

Lately, I've been starting to pick fights I might lose just so I can get my xp up.

I haven't been really attacking for the last week or more here are mine:
Exp
229
206
185
155
57
55
35
29
1
0

I have almost maxed everything.
Just 1k more archers.
Which i could do right now but i would rather do it 100-200 at a tie like i have been

Withdrew the money i got from phoenix and upgraded Blacksmith.
If people start attacking me now i know i screwed up
lol

How'd you get omoney from Phoenix?

Ken

It was that employee bonus.

I had like 8k saved up and then i withdrew the money from that.

Wow...That's awesome.

Ken

I bought my 3rd ThunderHawk.....If I can get another $12,000....I can have 10 heroes attack, and I think I'll be better off, even though it'll take 56 fuel per attack.

Ken

All I can afford right now are watchdogs and very minor upgrades...all of which seems to be helping amazingly enough!

Building up troops on O and D. Want to get a 3rd T-hawk and Hero Altar upgrade. Just bought a Ballista siege this morning, want 1 more.

Ok hearing about Ballista seiges makes me think this is neccassary.
I want some comparisons;

Palace:
Mobile Lab lvl 4 (maxed)
Blacksmith lvl 6
Gaurd Forge lvl 3
Bom factory lvl 3
Siege Factory lvl 4
Training Center lvl 2 (maxed)
Data Center lvl 2 (maxed)
Bank
Oil Facility lvl 7(maxed)
Fuel Warehouse lvl 3
Hero Altar lvl 9
Barracks lvl 3
Clinic

10 heros
2000 archers
2000 pikemen
4000 footmen

Mobile Lab lvl 4
Blacksmith lvl 6
Guard Forge lvl 4
Siege Factory lvl 5
Training Center lvl 2
Data Center lvl 2
Bank
Oil Facility lvl 6
Fuel Warehouse lvl 4
Hero Altar lvl 8
Barracks lvl 4
Clinic

9 Heroes
1800 Archers
2500 Pikemen
2000 Footmen

Haha   Strike that....Just upgraded to Hero Altar 9 and got my 10th hero after another round of attacking.  Having 3 Thunderhawks is really helping I think.  Not many people and defend 10 Heroes and 3000 troops.

Ken

Maxed my units with the money i got in school and over night.

I am going to try and start being more offense now.
I want to upgrade my seige factory so i ven get new sieges since i don't feel like buying lower ones to upgrade them in another day.

Hero Altar level 10 now.
If i didn't waste my efforts attacking i would have gotten it in faster than however long it has taken me...

Still sitting at level 9.

I think I figured something out regarding rankings. I had a couple of successful attacks recently and had heroes gain experience. I beefed up my D because I got pimped 2x today. This last ranking at 7PM, I dropped 10 ranks from 860 to 870. I'm theorizing that the more troops you have on D in proportion to the total troops, the game will rank you down for it. To further support this, for awhile I was just building up on O and not attacking or doing anything else, and it ranked me up.

Could be something to this...?

Been upgrading my barracks a lot lately (level 6 now). Still having a hard time coming up with the $13500 needed for the next hero altar upgrade. I've been getting attacked a lot more during the day lately. Maybe I need to upgrade my firewall (currently lev 6) first.

No one posted in this thread for 7 days. I am amazed.

I am upgrading barracks and buying units.
Thanks for bringing back the thread.
I didn't have the heart to do it myself.

BTW i was getting owned pretty bad for awhile.
I haven't been hit in 2 days though

Seems that mez has been doing the most ass-kicking lately.

Hehehehe

:D

Finally got to upgrade my hero altar!

And I had a couple of bomb attacks succeed! Very satisfying. No risk of retaliation unless they have clan members near my rank. Heh heh.

When you send bombs they don't know it was you unless you expressly tell the person you sent them.

Bombs leave no info about the sender.

That's great! And that's the way it should be because it's a spy attack. Revenge is sweet!

End of the round.

Mez and I finished in the top 400/450 out of over 3500 players. Not bad for a first try a month into the round.

Learned a few things. Definitely have to build up that hero altar and blacksmith lot sooner than I thought.And the fortification upgrades seemed pretty useless in retrospect.

Fun stuff.

@ Izret, thanks for the recommendation.

No prob :)

I really wish i could have gotten as into it as i wanted to.
I don't think i will be even in the next round... :-/

Just out of curiousity, I logged on for round 7, and they've added a TON of new stuff to the game! The research page has just EXPLODED with new things to add to economy, battle, etc.

I told myself I would sit out this round as well, but I'm drawn back in...here we go.

...
Not again.
More new stuff.
Gimme your employer ID and i will sign up under you.


I will try to be more active this time around.
No promises though. I haven't been able to really get into games lately.

Well playing them anyways.
I am in more of a collecting phase again.

Actually, I messed up. I upgraded the blacksmith too soon and it didn't give me the "are you sure?" message, so I deleted my account. I'll get back on in 10 minutes and will send you a message.

All right. I'm back in. I did all my attacking to get to a Level 5 Oil Facility and 10 Oil Workers, and level 1 Hero altar with a 2nd hero to stay on 'D'.

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