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Title: PS3 Delays
Post by: AndyC on September 06, 2006, 04:08:34 AM
It's just been announced that the PS3 has been delayed in Europe until March 2007. US release is still on schedule, they are putting it down to Blu-Ray supply problems. Personally I am not too bothered, as it is at the bottom of my next gen console wants with the Wii, 360 and DS coming before it.

I just see this being another nail in Sony's coffin.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: shaggy on September 06, 2006, 07:29:23 AM
Let's hope so.  Three consoles is too much to buy!


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 06, 2006, 08:11:31 AM
Especially at $600!

I was at a Sony store last week asking questions, and apparently, the only way you'll notice the difference in quality from Blu-Ray to HDDVD is if you have a 1080p HD TV.

Since 1080p TVs are just coming out now, I'm guessing that the majority of the gaming public that would buy a PS3 doesn't even have a TV capable of getting the most out of the console.

The sales associate mentioned that the Blu-Ray Players would be available in October at a cost of about $1K. When I asked about the PS3 and it's $600 price point, he had no explanation for why the player is going to be $1K, but 1 month later the PS3 would be $400 less. Something doesn't smell right about that.

Lastly, he mentioned that one drawback found in some of the early Blu-Ray players is slow load times.  Ugh.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tondog on September 06, 2006, 11:21:13 AM
I'm still pullin' for PS3. It's still my favorite of the upcoming 3 consoles, despite all the things that have been going on with it.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 06, 2006, 11:38:13 AM
I hope it gets delayed here until after X-Mas. That would hurt it a lot. Or they will ruch it here and they will break down a lot.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tondog on September 06, 2006, 11:46:31 AM
It's just going to launch with 400,000 units here

Despite all of this stuff that's going on, I still think PS3 is going to come out on top this time around. After seeing some videos of the Wii in action, it looks like the controller wil be making games more complicated than they already are. But again, I'll have to give it a shot before I decide.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: captain_nintendo on September 06, 2006, 12:35:22 PM
Yet another bad thing coming out of PS3 land.
We'll have to wait and see how it really does. But it already has a lot going against it. Blu Ray hasn't even caught on! The games are also going to be more expensive (cost of Blu Ray disc?)

I'll wait and see, but I dont see myself buying the PS3 anytime soon. I also dont see how anybody can see them clearly coming out on top in this next round of console wars? I mean unless Blu Ray really takes off and the cost goes down :hmm:


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on September 06, 2006, 12:46:18 PM
PS3 is going to be fine, and I still don't see the price making that much of a difference to those who are going to buy it.

And @Tondog, nothing has been going on with the PS3, it's just these weirdos who all have a grudge and find every little thing they can.

So why don't you all take your nay-saying away and just

[img width=393 height=216]http://www.bulatlat.com/images/4-17/bm%20shut%20up.jpg[/img]


P.S. It looks like I'm going to have to resort to extrene fanboyism to keep things balanced around here. So, X-Box is outdated and the Wii is a lame gimmicky concept that's overly cutesy and all around...just...Nintendo for you.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 06, 2006, 12:57:30 PM
The DS was a lame gimmick also right?


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: captain_nintendo on September 06, 2006, 01:02:55 PM
 :'( Oh know.... I cant stand any sort of realistic critism.



Oh yeah, the DS was such a lame gimmick :laugh: PSP =  :owned:
It's a good thing the Wii is going to be lame and gimmicky as well ;)


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: TraderJake on September 06, 2006, 01:10:51 PM
My God, 100,000 units for Japan at launch? Holy bejeezus.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on September 06, 2006, 01:13:55 PM
Did I say anything about the DS?

No. Scott said the DS was a lame gimmick.

I love the DS, I'm having sex with a DS right now.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: TraderJake on September 06, 2006, 01:19:54 PM
That's hot.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 06, 2006, 01:27:19 PM
He's having a DP with his DS and DS Lite.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 06, 2006, 01:28:55 PM
I wasnt calling the DS a gimmick. A lot of people said the DS was a gimmick is all. And the DS is selling rather well.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: captain_nintendo on September 06, 2006, 03:36:31 PM
I'm having sex with a DS right now.



Awesome! :rofl:


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: AndyC on September 06, 2006, 03:44:04 PM
I never criticised the PS3 directly,  it's that you have to look at it and weigh up the pro's and con's of each machine, Sony's con's, in my opinion, far outweigh the pros. Just look at all three next gen systems in a bigger picture, the cost, the games and the unique extras. Sony I feel loose out on all three accounts.

Im not a Sony hater either, just look at my collection the majority of my games are on PS1 and PS2, I just think they are making too many mistakes and disillussioning too many fans.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 06, 2006, 03:44:33 PM
PS3 is going to be fine, and I still don't see the price making that much of a difference to those who are going to buy it.

And @Tondog, nothing has been going on with the PS3, it's just these weirdos who all have a grudge and find every little thing they can.

So why don't you all take your nay-saying away and just

[img width=393 height=216]http://www.bulatlat.com/images/4-17/bm%20shut%20up.jpg[/img]


P.S. It looks like I'm going to have to resort to extrene fanboyism to keep things balanced around here. So, X-Box is outdated and the Wii is a lame gimmicky concept that's overly cutesy and all around...just...Nintendo for you.

Leon, these aren't "little" things. Console price. Software price.  A new proprietary technology as the software medium and the fact that it has little public interest. These are MAJOR issues!



Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: James on September 06, 2006, 03:52:01 PM
Leon, these aren't "little" things.Software price.
Speaking of which...

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Games-Nintendo-Wii-PC-Video/b/ref=amb_link_0/026-7999739-0054050?ie=UTF8&node=16377051


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: AndyC on September 06, 2006, 04:00:32 PM
James they are just cashing in on pre-orders, in Nintendo want to compete with the more powerful machines they can only sell their games at no more than thirty quid surely, but if all three of them charge full whack, we aren't really going to have much choice. Anyone else sense collaboration between the marketing of the three companies,

"Hike them prices up, and see how much the punters will pay".


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tondog on September 06, 2006, 04:38:43 PM
And @Tondog, nothing has been going on with the PS3, it's just these weirdos who all have a grudge and find every little thing they can.

I totally agree. Everyone is just blowing every small thing out of proportion. Like, just look at how big a deal the dropping of the HDMI cable was. Now everyone is saying Sony is doomed when they are launching with the same amount of consoles in the US as 360 did a mere year ago. People normally hate who's in number one, and Sony is it in this case.

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A new proprietary technology as the software medium and the fact that it has little public interest.
Blu-Ray isn't proprietary. It's meant to be a new replacement for DVD. It doesn't only work in PS3, and it has many, many backers.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 06, 2006, 05:09:26 PM
The main reason I dont like what they are doing with the PS3 is they are forcing you to go with Blu Ray. Blu Ray COULD be the next Btemax. And who was responsable for Betamax ........SONY!

I don't think the PS3 is going to be a huge bomb. Do I wish it would? YES! Sony has too many fanboys and Madden freaks for it to be a total bomb.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 07, 2006, 06:23:41 AM
Here's some more info:

http://editorials.teamxbox.com/xbox/1725/PlayStation-3-Worldwide-Launch-PostPWNED/p1



Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Antimind on September 07, 2006, 07:30:12 AM
I've been asking a lotta folks in my area at game stores about PS3 interest and there is practically NONE. $600 USD translates to app $700+ and with 13% tax not too many people in Manitoba are interested. The guys at one of the busiest EBs in the city say that only 4 people have expressed interest in the PS3. I'm NOT one of them.

Xbox 360 is currently dominating and Wii is the must have console. The interest in Wii is so incredible that nobody is offering pre-orders except Toys R Us and they already have so many that they don't expect but maybe 10% of those to be fulfilled out of the first few shipments.

I think the price does have much to do with it. I don't know anyone who can afford to put out that kind of money for a console let alone games. Judging from current game prices up here the PS3 titles will prolly go for over $100 a pop.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: James on September 07, 2006, 09:20:53 AM
Here's some more info:

http://editorials.teamxbox.com/xbox/1725/PlayStation-3-Worldwide-Launch-PostPWNED/p1



And people say Playstation has idiotic fanboys as if Xbox doesn't. ::)


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tondog on September 07, 2006, 10:09:07 AM
I don't think the PS3 is going to be a huge bomb. Do I wish it would? YES!
Why? What's wrong with competition in the industry? What's so bad about PS3 that you wish it would bomb?

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Sony has too many fanboys and Madden freaks for it to be a total bomb.
Kind of like how Xbox has too many fanboys of average FPS games for it to bomb. Don't even get me started on Madden. I do not like that particular game, but I will defend it to the bitter end.

I think the price does have much to do with it. I don't know anyone who can afford to put out that kind of money for a console let alone games. Judging from current game prices up here the PS3 titles will prolly go for over $100 a pop.
Everywhere I've seen says that the PS3's games will be priced about the same as what 360 games go for.

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And people say Playstation has idiotic fanboys as if Xbox doesn't.
Absolutely. That article is the worst-written piece of fanboy trash I've ever read in my entire life. Fanboys are the main thing that I don't like about console gaming. Why can't more people be fans of the games instead of specific consoles?


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 07, 2006, 12:49:03 PM
I don't think the PS3 is going to be a huge bomb. Do I wish it would? YES!
Why? What's wrong with competition in the industry? What's so bad about PS3 that you wish it would bomb?

I don't mind competition. I hate Sony's arrogance.

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Sony has too many fanboys and Madden freaks for it to be a total bomb.
Kind of like how Xbox has too many fanboys of average FPS games for it to bomb. Don't even get me started on Madden. I do not like that particular game, but I will defend it to the bitter end.

I agree with the FPS on the Xbox360. I am not a fanboy of the 360. I have one but I havent played in months.

I think the price does have much to do with it. I don't know anyone who can afford to put out that kind of money for a console let alone games. Judging from current game prices up here the PS3 titles will prolly go for over $100 a pop.
Everywhere I've seen says that the PS3's games will be priced about the same as what 360 games go for.

Wait and see is what I am doing. I have heard same as the 360 I have heard more.

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And people say Playstation has idiotic fanboys as if Xbox doesn't.
Absolutely. That article is the worst-written piece of fanboy trash I've ever read in my entire life. Fanboys are the main thing that I don't like about console gaming. Why can't more people be fans of the games instead of specific consoles?

All console have fanboys. I didn't read the article so I won't comment on that.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: captain_nintendo on September 07, 2006, 12:52:18 PM
Everywhere I've seen says that the PS3's games will be priced about the same as what 360 games go for.

Sony hasn't given it's prices on games out yet. So if anybody is quoting prices, they are WRONG Sony has hinted at pricing, but I have not seen Sony come right out and give pricing as of yet.

Blu Ray disc do cost more. So Yes I can see the PS3's games costing a bit more. Unless Sony plans on eating the cost. (which may be the case)





Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tan on September 07, 2006, 01:44:16 PM
people seem to think gaming fanboys are different than Ford vs. Chevy, Remington vs. Mossberg, butter vs. margarine.  ::) everyone's a fan of something, but the internet exaggerates the worst ones because somehow they seem to type faster than the rest of us.  :P

the reason people can't be fans of the games versus the consoles is because no game is created equal, there's always something about one that you like more than another, and advantages to each platform when there's a multi release.

do i think the prices for games are crazy? not really, sure i paid $90cdn for Oblivion collector's edition, but i paid $39.99 for PDZ collector's. sure i've paid $59.99=69.99cdn for 360 games, but i've also got them used for less than $20. in the end it evens out. besides why complain about game prices when you've invested hundreds into the hardware? if you can't handle the prices of games you made a big mistake buying the system in the first place, that's called consumer ignorance and it's no one's fault but that of the buyer. In the end if a 360 or PS3 cost $50 and games $1 new people would still find things to complain about.

It's like Racism and discrimination has been replaced by Fanboyism, where people can freely bash each other under the cover of free speech and brand loyalty. People can mouth off at each other behind the safety of their screens at home because they don't have to worry about big guys ripping their faces off in person, the fanboy thing is a symptom of the internet, it's been around since the days of BBS and hardly shows it's ugly face in public.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 07, 2006, 01:55:18 PM
Shutup Tan you make to much sense.  ;D ;D ;D


Like you said I really dont care about the price of the games that much. I will wait and get them used or discounted. $600 for a system is a bit much though.

What ever happened with not being able to play used games on the PS3? I know Sony did a patent on the tech but is it in the PS3?


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on September 07, 2006, 02:24:13 PM
Hell no, that was a rumor.

I still think that the price is not that much of a factor for those who are really going to buy it. I've said it before and I'll say it again, Americans spend on what they want, or what they want to need, my next door neigbors are not very well off, yet they have an HD TV, a PS2, and a pretty nice PC. They just wrack up the bills on credit cards.

And there'll always be the wealthier class to who it doesn't matter and the kids who save up their money.

As far as the fanboy thing, I just like to argue. Hell, I'm not probably going to buy a PS3 for a long time. I just don't like people bashing it when it's so completely badass and all the other systems suck (that was sarcasm).

And that article was retarded, they're just scared because 360 is going to be outdated in two months.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: captain_nintendo on September 07, 2006, 03:53:51 PM


And that article was retarded, they're just scared because 360 is going to be outdated in two months.

I hope that was sarcasm as well?? :-\

Becuase you wont be able to see a difference in the games. At least not in the beggining. Maybe down the road, but even then, people bought PS2 games when the Xbox version was Soooooo much better ::)

The 360 has the ball rolling now. The 360 has more consoles in homes now. And the the 360 cost less.

Only time will tell how the next generation of the console wars goes.

Go Wii go ;)


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on September 07, 2006, 04:00:20 PM
Well, when nearly everything I've said in this thread has been sarcastic what do you think?

Go away Wii, you suck and everyone hates you ;)


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 07, 2006, 05:32:26 PM
I'm in the same camp as Tynstar regarding Sony's arrogance.

Before E3 I was giving the PS3 the benefit of the doubt. But the way the Sony execs have kept spouting off since then with their arrogant remarks, I'm hoping they fail miserably. The clincher being "It's a computer."...how stupid is that?

I do like the PS2. Really. It may have been the last of the current-gen consoles that I've purchased, but it does have a good list of exclusive titles that I've enjoyed.

It just seems to me that Sony is the only company of the 3 that's approaching the next gen of consoles by belittling its competition and disrepecting the intellect of it's consumers. And I don't see that changing. Which is why I hope that Nintendo and Microsoft gain as much ground as they can in stealing market share from Sony.

That's just my $.02.


 


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: ganonbanned on September 07, 2006, 05:49:28 PM
someone told me that apperently regardless of where you are you have to buy a special HDMI cable to play it that costs $75-$100


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 07, 2006, 06:04:47 PM
@ganon, I'd love to see that in print somewhere.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on September 07, 2006, 06:33:25 PM
This is what he said about PS3 being a computer:

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No, it doesn't concern me and I don't think it concerns the consumer either. Once you adopt a game system as your primary entertainment device, that's what you want. We think that Playstation 3 is the place where our users will be doing their gaming, their movie watching, their Web browsing and a lot of other computer entertainment functions. That will satisfy them. Playstation 3 is a computer. We don't need the PC.

It makes sense, I mean most "American Idiots" only use their computers for AIM, web browsing, and gaming, why not lock it all into the same box they stare at all the rest of the time?

P.S. I love you American Idiots, please don't lynch me.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on September 07, 2006, 06:44:31 PM
someone told me that apparently regardless of where you are you have to buy a special HDMI cable to play it that costs $75-$100
@ganon, I'd love to see that in print somewhere.

Why would Sony add that with it anyways? I mean you never get cables for jack in ANYTHING. Most people don't even have the capabilities to use it yet. HDMI won't even be prominent till like 2012. At this point in time if you have the cash to buy a 1080 capable TV you won't mind spending the 40$ (I looked it up) for a cable.

I also looked up a few other things, and I'm right. Like I said, at this point HDMI is unimportant. Blu-Ray won't need it for quite some time. It's just a port that will be useful in years to come.

So I think I'll say: Look, the 360 and Wii don't even HAVE an HDMI port, how lame ;).


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tondog on September 07, 2006, 07:30:45 PM
HDMI isn't required for PS3.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: TraderJake on September 07, 2006, 07:40:53 PM
This is great, classic, infighting.

Here is some more fuel for the fire.

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No 1080p Games?

Sony took flack in the press earlier this week when it emerged that the HDMI-equipped PlayStation 3 would ship without an HDMI cable. This would have potential consequences for Blu-ray movie playback, which the US PlayStation 3 site says requires an HDMI cable for 1080p. But Sony has today confirmed with Kikizo that this isn't necessarily so.


 

Both models of the PlayStation 3 will be able to play games and movies in 1080p, SCEE's Jonathan Fargher told Kikizo. Whether you're watching Resident Evil: Apocalypse or playing Gran Turismo HD, you'll be able to enjoy a full 1080p signal through component cables.

According to Sony, the official US PlayStation 3 site's caveat that the HDMI connection is required for 1080p signals in Blu-ray movies is fallout from uncertainty over the Image Constraint Token - a next-generation anti-piracy measure.

Kikizo reported earlier this year that Sony has seemingly neutered the ICT, allowing full HD signals to bypass the HDMI requirement.

As it turns out, though, unless you're using the PlayStation 3 mainly as a Blu-ray movie player, you're not going to be getting much 1080p content anyway.

Sony has made an issue of pointing out that 1080p, which the Xbox 360 is incapable of, is the Holy Grail of "full HD". As it stands now, the only game that is running in 1080p, said Fargher, is Gran Turismo HD - a tech demo crafted by Polyphony to showcase what the system is capable of.

Gran Turismo HD
This is in line with our earlier report, where a development source told Kikizo that, "even with [final hardware] in mind, reaching good frame rates at 1080p with next-gen graphics is almost impossible. Instead many developers, ourselves included, are reworking so they run at 720p. "

Whether you'll ever be able to buy Gran Turismo HD is up in the air. However, Sony did confirm that an announcement would be made at the Tokyo Game Show later this month.

If Gran Turismo HD is not released as a full game, it is possible that Sony could release it as a download through its PlayStation Network Platform.

With the PlayStation 3 a virtual no-show at Games Convention in Leipzig, all eyes are now on PlayStation boss Ken Kutaragi, who will deliver the keynote address at the Tokyo Game Show later this month. Sony is planning to use TGS as the PlayStation 3's coming out party and it has already confirmed that 27 games will be playable at the show.


http://games.kikizo.com/news/200609/018.asp


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on September 07, 2006, 10:00:45 PM
Now now, let's keep this fair and not go copying and pasting. Actually I don't care, I'll take it all since I've read it all already.

Like I said, HDMI will happen, but in like six years. Hell it might not even be prominent in this generation (sure won't be in any other system :P) but it's probable it'll be around near this generation's end.

Sony probably shoulda just stuck the port on there and been quiet about it. But now that the cat's out of the bag they had to stick that thing on their site or get sued.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Antimind on September 07, 2006, 10:24:10 PM
besides why complain about game prices when you've invested hundreds into the hardware? if you can't handle the prices of games you made a big mistake buying the system in the first place, that's called consumer ignorance and it's no one's fault but that of the buyer.

That's just as bad as saying why buy a dvd player if you can't afford to plunk down the loot for 10+ movies within the first month. Why should anyone be denied entertainment all together just because they're poor? I know plenty of poor people who own consoles and only pick up a few games a year.

When it comes down to the price per-game I know quite a few people that will go with the cheaper option provided there are a few games to their liking in the lineup.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tan on September 07, 2006, 10:53:20 PM
i'm not saying that people should be denied entertainment, i'm saying something like a ps3 or 360 is a huge investment, and you shouldn't expect to be able to raid bargin bins when they first come out. it's like buying a SUV then complaining about gas mileage,
you buy a ps3, extra controller and a ps2 mem card adapter i'm sure your hitting the $1000cdn range, and if you've commited that much to the system your not poor or under-privileged, in fact quite the opposite.
don't take me for a elitist snob, i've been poor all my life, and whatever i've got i've worked hard for, alot of budgetting is required for me to maintain my 360 game supply, but i do it with both eyes open, i don't fool myself that i'm on easy street because i threw down hundreds on a game system, i know it's a continual investment and i accept it, if i don't like it i don't buy it, but i certainly don't hide behind ignorance when i can't afford a certain item.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 08, 2006, 09:49:06 AM
Arrogance-Arrogance-Arrogance-Arrogance-Arrogance-Arrogance-Arrogance-Arrogance-Arrogance-Arrogance-Arrogance


Tan is an elitist Snob!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tan on September 08, 2006, 10:22:17 AM
who do you think bought this?

[img width=320 height=240]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v463/Tanthalas/e2_12.jpg[/img]

Daddy needs his bling too you know :king:


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 08, 2006, 10:34:02 AM
I think it is gold paint. Now it is real gold I would have to say SELL IT!!!!!


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tondog on September 08, 2006, 04:04:13 PM
A real gold faceplate for the 360 would be the coolest thing ever. Now if only we could get it a grill somehow.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Cobra on September 09, 2006, 06:44:25 AM
I will like to point out that in Australia, the cut down PS3 will cost us no less than $829, but for the full fetured PS3 with silver trim, all we need to do is pay $999.

I'm not going to argue, as I have liked Sony as much as I like Pokemon ever since I made it all the way through a mint condition Wild Arms on my PS1, witch was also well kept, just to have it freeze when I killed the final boss. I still have not seen the endining to this day. But to be perfectly honest, I could make an entire list of hate about Sony but I wont.

What I am amazed about though, is no one has complained about Sony wanting them to ditch their hard earned DVD collection, even though after over 100 DVDs you still can't get a few of your personal favs from VHS on DVD. So lets start that again, and see how many more movies wont be ported over this time shall we? I'm honestly not surprised the support in Europe for it is lacking.

But I'm also amazed no one took a stab at the chance of the PS3 blowing up into flames like their batteries.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tan on September 09, 2006, 11:04:51 AM
forgive my ignorance on Sony's BD-ROM features, but does the PS3 have upconversion capabilites? because having a video scaler would go a long way in making a PS3 a more preferrable player than a standalone unit IMO.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tondog on September 09, 2006, 12:57:09 PM
forgive my ignorance on Sony's BD-ROM features, but does the PS3 have upconversion capabilites? because having a video scaler would go a long way in making a PS3 a more preferrable player than a standalone unit IMO.
I don't know for sure, but my best guess is that it does. Don't quote me on that though.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 09, 2006, 01:07:54 PM
Can you watch DVD's on a Blu Ray disc player?


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tan on September 09, 2006, 03:28:21 PM
i had assumed both HD-DVD and Blu-Ray are both backwards compatible, besides it has to read PS2 DVDs as well.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: James on September 09, 2006, 03:38:52 PM
From what I gather, BluRay can't read DVDs but the PS3 has two optical drives.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tynstar on September 09, 2006, 04:47:24 PM
Thanks


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tondog on September 09, 2006, 11:31:11 PM
Uh, blu ray can read dvds, and ps3 only has one optical drive.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Cobra on September 10, 2006, 01:50:53 AM
Did a little Google search of Blu Ray for the heck of it.
Tondog is probably right about that, there are apparently going to be two types of Blu Ray lenses, ones that can only read Blu Ray, and those that are also backwards compatible.

While personally I think it's silly for a replacement for the DVD to already be lunched when there are those who still use VHS even, only time will see how it all goes.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 10, 2006, 03:51:41 AM
Here's some early reviews from users on circuitcity.com.

http://www.circuitcity.com/ssm/Customer-reviews-for-Samsung-Blu-ray-Disc-Player-BD-P1000/sem/rpsm/oid/147994/rpem/ccd/productDetailReview.do#tabs



Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Cobra on September 10, 2006, 05:37:54 AM
If you thought a whole bunch of bad reviews about Blu-Ray were the biggest problem facing Sony, think again! Look below. (By the way, were there any good reviews on that site? I gave up about 10 - 20 reviews in)

[img width=468 height=247]http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/banner91.jpg[/img]
[img width=468 height=251]http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/banner10.jpg[/img]


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: James on September 10, 2006, 04:41:54 PM
Uh, blu ray can read dvds, and ps3 only has one optical drive.
I can't remember where I read about it now. It was probably just a rumour on an internet forum.

Maybe it was Blu-Ray players. I'm sure someone said about more advanced players being backwards compatible with one lense, and the others have DVD lenses in them as well as the BluRay lense.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: Tan on September 10, 2006, 06:49:24 PM
if I'm not mistaken i believe i read somewhere that they are making a triple layer disk that has DVD, HD-DVD and blu-ray all on one disc, but it won't be ready for awhile.


Title: Re: PS3 Delays
Post by: phoenix1967 on September 11, 2006, 10:21:30 AM
If you thought a whole bunch of bad reviews about Blu-Ray were the biggest problem facing Sony, think again! Look below. (By the way, were there any good reviews on that site? I gave up about 10 - 20 reviews in)

[img width=468 height=247]http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/banner91.jpg[/img]
[img width=468 height=251]http://www.destructoid.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/08/banner10.jpg[/img]


I gave up also. But with over 250+ consumers responding with their reviews, for it to get such low marks says a lot about the product quality.