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Title: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: UNFORGIVINGPAIN on April 16, 2007, 12:20:17 PM
Virginia Tech Shooting Kills at Least 20


Title: Re: A Completely Unrelated Series of Thoughts.. Part 5
Post by: Hydrobond on April 16, 2007, 01:09:45 PM
32

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266310,00.html


The scary part is I almost went there.  And I would most certainly have been in that building at that time had I chosen to go there.


Title: Re: A Completely Unrelated Series of Thoughts.. Part 5
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 16, 2007, 02:46:36 PM
Jesus, one shooter?

He must have been freaking locked and loaded and or be a crack shot to have taken down so many people.


Title: Re: A Completely Unrelated Series of Thoughts.. Part 5
Post by: Hydrobond on April 16, 2007, 02:54:29 PM
Yeah, leave it to an engineer to do something efficiently.


Title: Re: A Completely Unrelated Series of Thoughts.. Part 5
Post by: Izret101 on April 16, 2007, 03:46:28 PM
lol that shouldn't be funny.

I only caught a tidbit while i was taking rediculous computer courses for my new job.
It was pretty much the same things over and over. But the test are all timed. So when finishing early you just hve to keep clicking back and forth so that the timer runs up to the exceptable minimum time.

Most definately the most effective way to make someone learn something.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: TraderJake on April 16, 2007, 03:52:05 PM
This is horrible, sad, tragic. Imagine if it happened at your school. What if someone pulled a gun out at Cary Quad and then subsequently went on a shooting rampage in the Electrical Engineering Building. How about if it was Calhoun Hall followed by Baldwin Hall? It certainly strikes a nerve, this incomprehensible act. Perhaps it is because he chose to kill engineering students, I don't know, but this is truly a horrible event and I pray for the family and friends of everyone injured or dead, in addition to those injured.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: ganonbanned on April 16, 2007, 04:11:27 PM
This sucks, I hope they dont blame games.



Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: James on April 16, 2007, 04:47:47 PM
That's sad and somewhat shocking. I think I heard this is the ninteenth school shooting in ten years. I'm amazed at how one person could kill so many people in this way. Were they all spaced out or were they in a busy classroom or what?


 :-\


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: ganonbanned on April 16, 2007, 04:49:39 PM
That's sad and somewhat shocking. I think I heard this is the ninteenth school shooting in ten years. I'm amazed at how one person could kill so many people in this way. Were they all spaced out or were they in a busy classroom or what?


 :-\

they were spaced out throughout the campus, it said so on MSN.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 16, 2007, 04:53:16 PM
This is horrible, sad, tragic. Imagine if it happened at your school. What if someone pulled a gun out at Cary Quad and then subsequently went on a shooting rampage in the Electrical Engineering Building. How about if it was Calhoun Hall followed by Baldwin Hall? It certainly strikes a nerve, this incomprehensible act. Perhaps it is because he chose to kill engineering students, I don't know, but this is truly a horrible event and I pray for the family and friends of everyone injured or dead, in addition to those injured.

I imagine it daily, that's why I carry a knife. I'd charge the motherfucker.

If you're ever somewhere a shooting is happening, and you see someone running towards it rather than away from it, that's me


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: James on April 16, 2007, 04:58:20 PM
I imagine it daily, that's why I carry a knife. I'd charge the motherfucker.

If you're ever somewhere a shooting is happening, and you see someone running towards it rather than away from it, that's me
Will you be charging at them with your razor edged keyboard?


It's nice to think we'd be heroic when it happens, but in reality we'll probably freeze then get shot and die in a puddle of bodily fluids.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Hydrobond on April 16, 2007, 05:03:27 PM
^The guy killed one person in a residence hall and then proceded to kill 30+ in the engineering building.


33+ now.  
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,266374,00.html


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 16, 2007, 05:07:21 PM
I imagine it daily, that's why I carry a knife. I'd charge the motherfucker.

If you're ever somewhere a shooting is happening, and you see someone running towards it rather than away from it, that's me
Will you be charging at them with your razor edged keyboard?


It's nice to think we'd be heroic when it happens, but in reality we'll probably freeze then get shot and die in a puddle of bodily fluids.

I don't care if I got shot, I just want to be remembered as the badass guy that charged the gun toting maniac with a knife. If I take him down all the more +rep.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Tynstar on April 16, 2007, 06:10:59 PM
I imagine it daily, that's why I carry a knife. I'd charge the motherfucker.

If you're ever somewhere a shooting is happening, and you see someone running towards it rather than away from it, that's me
Will you be charging at them with your razor edged keyboard?


It's nice to think we'd be heroic when it happens, but in reality we'll probably freeze then get shot and die in a puddle of bodily fluids.

I don't care if I got shot, I just want to be remembered as the badass guy that charged the gun toting maniac with a knife. If I take him down all the more +rep.

Unless you have been in that situation before you have no idea what you would do.

This is truly  tragic  but am I surprised? Not at all and that's sad.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: TraderJake on April 16, 2007, 06:13:35 PM
That's sad and somewhat shocking. I think I heard this is the ninteenth school shooting in ten years. I'm amazed at how one person could kill so many people in this way. Were they all spaced out or were they in a busy classroom or what?
 :-\

they were spaced out throughout the campus, it said so on MSN.

No, only two killings happened in the dorm, the other 30 happened in the engineering building from what I've read. Certainly not really spread out.

Oh, and

http://kotaku.com/gaming/virginia-tech/breaking-idiot-thompson-blames-va-shooting-on-games-252702.php


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: bum-man on April 16, 2007, 06:58:44 PM
Oh, and

http://kotaku.com/gaming/virginia-tech/breaking-idiot-thompson-blames-va-shooting-on-games-252702.php
That sucks, it doesn't suprise me but it sucks because people who don't know him may think he knows what he is taking about.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 16, 2007, 07:13:23 PM
I imagine it daily, that's why I carry a knife. I'd charge the motherfucker.

If you're ever somewhere a shooting is happening, and you see someone running towards it rather than away from it, that's me
Will you be charging at them with your razor edged keyboard?


It's nice to think we'd be heroic when it happens, but in reality we'll probably freeze then get shot and die in a puddle of bodily fluids.

I don't care if I got shot, I just want to be remembered as the badass guy that charged the gun toting maniac with a knife. If I take him down all the more +rep.

Unless you have been in that situation before you have no idea what you would do.

This is truly  tragic  but am I surprised? Not at all and that's sad.

But I have an idea of what I would do, and it's badass.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: ganonbanned on April 16, 2007, 08:05:38 PM
what would you do?


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Hydrobond on April 17, 2007, 09:59:14 AM
Update:

The shooter has been confirmed as Cho Seung-Hui, a South Korean studying Engrish at VT. 
http://www.reuters.com/article/topNews/idUSN1631133620070417?&src=041707_0954_TOPSTORY_gunman_identified

Wikipedia moves too fast:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_Tech_Shooting

Some guy made a list of victims (incomplete so far, but with myspace links.)
http://www.bloggingwv.com/virginia-tech-victims-list-and-their-myspace-pages/

Some people on Fark are saying that in South Korea you are required to serve two years in the military, which would explain his marksmanship.  I don't know, and havn't been able to find, if he actually served or if he came to the US to escape it.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Hydrobond on April 17, 2007, 10:58:40 AM
[img width=700 height=559]http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/9439/4548aa4a2b64e21892c524bsc3.jpg[/img]

edit: source http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tables/viortrdtab.htm


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 17, 2007, 11:54:09 AM
Oh boy, English Lit, that's my major.

Oh well, less competition.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: captain_nintendo on April 17, 2007, 01:35:51 PM


Oh, and

http://kotaku.com/gaming/virginia-tech/breaking-idiot-thompson-blames-va-shooting-on-games-252702.php

Figures  ::)

Rich Delicious chocolate is an idiot.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Hydrobond on April 17, 2007, 02:40:52 PM
Definition of a hero:  http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKN1723680320070417?src=041707_1420_TOPSTORY_live%3A_memorial_service


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: captain_nintendo on April 17, 2007, 03:26:25 PM
Definition of a hero:  http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKN1723680320070417?src=041707_1420_TOPSTORY_live%3A_memorial_service

Nice


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: shaggy on April 17, 2007, 03:29:53 PM
Some people on Fark are saying that in South Korea you are required to serve two years in the military, which would explain his marksmanship.  I don't know, and havn't been able to find, if he actually served or if he came to the US to escape it.

From what I have read he is 23 and I believe they said he had been here for I think 12 years which would put him at 11 when he came over here.  I don't think they have kids in their military.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 17, 2007, 04:24:28 PM
I blame 300.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Hydrobond on April 17, 2007, 05:23:52 PM
Some people on Fark are saying that in South Korea you are required to serve two years in the military, which would explain his marksmanship.  I don't know, and havn't been able to find, if he actually served or if he came to the US to escape it.

From what I have read he is 23 and I believe they said he had been here for I think 12 years which would put him at 11 when he came over here.  I don't think they have kids in their military.

Yeah, it was just a guess, from before a lot of that information was available. 


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: captain_nintendo on April 18, 2007, 09:59:04 AM
I thought this was cool:

 Nationals = AWESOME (http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/baseball/mlb/04/17/bc.bbn.nationals.virginia.ap/index.html)


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Tynstar on April 18, 2007, 10:46:51 AM
That is pretty cool.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: OatBob on April 18, 2007, 10:42:18 PM
Rich Delicious Chocolate is an idiot.

Yeah, I can't wait until he is disbarred.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Tondog on April 19, 2007, 08:19:42 AM
Rich Delicious chocolate is an idiot.
RDC needs a life other than taking advantage of the misfortunes of others.

captain_nintendo: that link is amazing. I'm so glad the Nationals did that.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Tondog on April 19, 2007, 09:58:56 AM
Rich Delicious Chocolate just got pwn3d...

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/04/19/no-video-games-found-in-vt-shooters-dorm/


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 19, 2007, 11:38:01 AM
I can't believe the fucking media retards showed those videos of ol' Cho. That's exactly what the little loser wanted them to do, he wanted to leave his mark on the world; way to give it to him you sensationalist knuckle-heads.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: den68 on April 19, 2007, 03:51:22 PM
no kidding, MSN was LOADED with pics of the guy and videos today.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: TraderJake on April 19, 2007, 04:02:38 PM
Since this thread now has a slight gaming spin, here is more on RDC

http://kotaku.com/gaming/hardball/clip-jack-thompson-gets-hardballed-253501.php


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 19, 2007, 04:29:44 PM
Someone trained on Super Columbine Massacre? I certainly hope not, as it's a crappy SNES quality RPG.

As for the rest...I personally believe I could stay calmer in a similar situation and it probably would have something to do with my time spent playing AA. But in no way does it make me want to kill (innocent) people. Hell, I live immersed in violence, our whole society does. Perhaps J.T. has a point in saying that these games can train you; but what's more to blame is what drove this kid to do this. It wasn't games, or movies, or any media that drove him to it. It was how he was raised and how he was treated by others.

Or he was completely insane from the get-go.



Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Tynstar on April 19, 2007, 04:37:59 PM
If video games drive kids to kill JT would of died long ago.


Cops: What did you hear the shooter yell?

Witness: BOOM HEAD SHOT


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 19, 2007, 04:46:35 PM
Hehe true dat


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Tan on April 19, 2007, 06:29:14 PM
If video games drive kids to kill JT would of died long ago.

If this was the early 80's:

Officer: "Did you see anything?"

Gamer: "Wakka Wakka?"

If this was the early 90's:

Officer: "Did you see anything?"

Gamer: "Scorpion Wins, Flawless Victory!"


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Tynstar on April 19, 2007, 07:23:23 PM
If video games drive kids to kill JT would of died long ago.

If this was the early 80's:

Officer: "Did you see anything?"

Gamer: "Wakka Wakka?"

If this was the early 90's:

Officer: "Did you see anything?"

Gamer: "Scorpion Wins, Flawless Victory!"

 :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: OatBob on April 20, 2007, 03:06:22 PM
Well, I'll just keep on beating the dead horse and post yet another followup to Mondays tragedy and how it doesn't relate to video games.

There was no connection to violent interactive entertainment. (http://kotaku.com/gaming/feature/op-ed-smartbomb-author-on-va-tech-shooting-253949.php)

MSNBC agrees with Kotaku: Jack Thompson is a tool. (http://kotaku.com/gaming/va-tech-shooting/msnbc-agrees-with-kotaku-jacks-a-tool-254118.php)


Our hearts are with the families and friends of those who died Monday at Virginia Tech.  God bless.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Tondog on April 20, 2007, 03:09:08 PM
Even Rush Limbaugh doesn't think video games caused it. Come on. RUSH FREAKIN LIMBAUGH!


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: The Metamorphosing Leon on April 20, 2007, 09:05:00 PM
That's because Rush Limbaugh knows what's going on in this country.


Title: Re: Who the Hell Does Such a Thing (Split from a Completely Unrelated...)
Post by: Hydrobond on April 20, 2007, 11:51:19 PM
That's because Rush Limbaugh knows what's going on in this country.

I didn't want to spark an argument, but I would agree with this comment.  Rush is usually pretty level headed, but tends make fun of the the left rather than show why his view is better. 

Sometimes I think Rush is even a bit too far right for me.  Mike McConnell would be spot on.  (I can't wait to here Dave's response to this.)