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Title: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: EZ Racer on March 31, 2020, 02:21:16 PM
Each month, RFGen members have been asked to submit a list of their personal top 20 games for a system-

In January, we looked NES-http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=19248.0
February was the Super NES-http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=19263.0
And in March, the Sega Genesis-http://www.rfgeneration.com/forum/index.php?topic=19279.0

For April, we'll be looking at Nintendo's first 3D based console, the N64-

[img width=500 height=312]https://cdn.hswstatic.com/gif/n64-3.jpg[/img]

Launching in 1996, the N64 directly competed with the Sony Playstation and the Sega Saturn, as some of the first home consoles based on 3D technology. The N64 was unique in that it was the last major home console to used cartridge based games, until the Switch in 2017.

But what were the best games? That's for you to decide!

How to participate:

1. Make an ordered list of whatever games are your favorites for the system being covered that month.

-Make your list about what games you think are the best that system has to offer, NOT necessarily the most important. (For example, Super Mario Bros. is one of the most influential games in VG history, but not many would call it a better game than SMB3)

-Also, your list needs to be limited to games you have personally played. Don't include a game just because you've heard it's good, include a game because you know it's good.

-For a few of the games, try to include a few thoughts on why that particular game made your list. That way, those not as familiar with the game can see why it's one they should put on their radar.

2. Personal Message EZ Racer with your ordered list.

Just put "Top 20 games for the (whatever system we're covering that month)" in the subject line. Throughout the month, I will be compiling the results, and release a full list based on votes sent in. I will be putting extra weight on games voted for the top of the lists, so please make sure that your games are listed in numeric order. The reasoning behind a private vote is so that each member's vote can be their own, not influenced by what they think others would want.

The voting cutoff each month will be the last day of the month at 11:59 EST.

Also, the question has come up in previous lists about non-NA exclusives. After seeing the previous lists, I think it best to stick to only NA and PAL releases, that way RFGen members from across the pond can have a voice. But later in the year we'll do something for Japan exclusive titles.

I know a few that have told me they were looking forward to doing an N64 list, so hopefully we'll have great participation with this list.

Participants-

Disposed Hero*
Wempster*
Crabmaster2000*
EngineerMike*
shaggy*
blcklblskt*
Schlibby*
bombatomba*
bickman2k*
Misto*


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Disposed Hero on March 31, 2020, 02:47:46 PM
I had an N64 growing up, but it's a system I haven't revisited as much in recent years. I should still be able to put together a Top 20 list though.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: douglie007 on March 31, 2020, 05:18:45 PM
20 might be hard for me to come up with, but I'll try


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Wempster on March 31, 2020, 06:11:25 PM
It's finally time for my favorite system!  Now to pare down a list....


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on April 01, 2020, 12:18:24 AM
This should be an easy one to put together


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on April 01, 2020, 10:04:33 AM
I want to try doing this. This will be harder than the Genesis. 


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on April 01, 2020, 02:32:19 PM
Asking for EngineerMike. If we can't come up with a top 20 can we submit a top 15,8,12, etc.... 

;)


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: singlebanana on April 01, 2020, 02:48:52 PM
Yeah, I am going to sit this one out.  I'm not a fan of the system and really have only played maybe a handful of games on it. It wouldn't be fair for me to rank a game high on this list just because I have played so few others.  However, I am very much looking forward to seeing everyone's lists and trying out some of their lesser known picks.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on April 01, 2020, 03:37:25 PM
Yeah, I am going to sit this one out.  I'm not a fan of the system and really have only played maybe a handful of games on it. It wouldn't be fair for me to rank a game high on this list just because I have played so few others.  However, I am very much looking forward to seeing everyone's lists and trying out some of their lesser known picks.

There has to be some kind of way to involve people that are not as familiar with systems. Maybe something like if you only submitted a top 10 your games would rank as if they started at 10-20 so they wouldn't have major impacts on the scores of the top 10 games? Just spit balling, but I feel like there is a way that people with less knowledge of a platform could still participate. I'd really like to figure this out because it would be great going forward if a lesser known console is chosen (3DO, TG16, etc) especially if we already have people struggling on a popular one like the N64.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Mr_Stubbes on April 01, 2020, 04:41:02 PM
I missed out on getting my Genesis list together due to other priorities, but I think I should be able to get an N64 list together.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on April 02, 2020, 12:48:14 AM
Asking for EngineerMike. If we can't come up with a top 20 can we submit a top 15,8,12, etc.... 

;)

Thanks for the needed laugh, buddy! I will be able to come up with a list. There is at least 20 decent games for N64...I’m pretty sure...


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: MetalFRO on April 02, 2020, 03:00:53 PM
This one I'm certain I'm not qualified to participate in. I've probably only played around 20 N64 games. Perhaps not even that many. I've definitely played a few great ones, and a couple stinkers, but my knowledge of the library is not wide enough to want to weigh in. I look forward to the list, though, because I think there's enough good content on the console to warrant list.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on April 02, 2020, 10:42:11 PM
I'll be lucky to barely get 20 and I will bet you majority of the games will be Rare games!


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: EZ Racer on April 03, 2020, 06:01:46 PM
After seeing many of the comments from people unsure if they can come with a top 20, and giving it quite a bit of thought, I'll throw this out there-

If you want to participate, but are unsure if you can come up with a full 20, go ahead and still submit a list. For lists with less 20, I will adjust the rankings to compensate for the missing games, and I'm still working out exactly what will work best for all.

For instance, if someone only submits 12 games, I will do my best to spread them evenly so the top games on the list count equivalent to the high ranks on a full 20 list, and the bottom be equivalent to the bottom of a full list.

Bottom line, if possible send a full top 20 list. But if you can't come up with a full 20, go ahead and submit what you can and I'll make it work. I still hope to get as much participation as we can.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on April 04, 2020, 06:17:35 AM
After seeing many of the comments from people unsure if they can come with a top 20, and giving it quite a bit of thought, I'll throw this out there-

If you want to participate, but are unsure if you can come up with a full 20, go ahead and still submit a list. For lists with less 20, I will adjust the rankings to compensate for the missing games, and I'm still working out exactly what will work best for all.

For instance, if someone only submits 12 games, I will do my best to spread them evenly so the top games on the list count equivalent to the high ranks on a full 20 list, and the bottom be equivalent to the bottom of a full list.

Bottom line, if possible send a full top 20 list. But if you can't come up with a full 20, go ahead and submit what you can and I'll make it work. I still hope to get as much participation as we can.

:)


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on April 08, 2020, 03:12:31 PM
Got my list together for this one now. Once I got my list down to 20 games I sorted them into A, B and C tier games and that made ranking them MUCH easier than my last few lists. Probably going to use that method going forward. Was surprised where I put a couple BIG games on that system. Some real gems that I'm excited to see where they rank on the overall lists too.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on April 09, 2020, 09:52:09 AM
I got my 20 all picked too. I just need to come up with reasons, for why I picked them.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: EZ Racer on April 14, 2020, 08:32:09 PM
With three lists in, this could end up being a very interesting list. Already a few surprises. Looking forward to seeing what else comes in.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bombatomba on April 15, 2020, 11:22:24 AM
I'm working on a list now.  Just need to add come additional comments.  I only have a list of fifteen though :(


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on April 15, 2020, 09:39:57 PM
Comments are hard to do, for this one.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bombatomba on April 16, 2020, 01:14:01 PM
Comments are hard to do, for this one.

My biggest issue is finding games to put on the list!  I played a bunch of them at one point, but I just don't remember anything about them.  So in an effort to fill out the list, I've made a list of N64 games I know I played, then am watching videos trying to find inspiration. then trying to rank them.  That is my advise to anyone having issues with the N64, and this should also work with consoles with fairly limited libraries.

I'm giving myself four days, then submitting.  Period.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bickman2k on April 16, 2020, 02:35:05 PM
Okay, I sent my list out.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on April 16, 2020, 03:13:16 PM
List in!  It's a Rare good time!


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on April 17, 2020, 05:42:09 PM
List finalized and submitted. Had a surprisingly good time compiling this list and I'm excited to see everyone else's choices that go beyond the Marios and Zeldas.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on April 18, 2020, 12:27:25 PM
List submitted. For the whole process of coming up with this list, I weighed each game in two parts. First, how nostalgic and fondly, I remember most of these games. Second, How well do these games hold up, and could I still enjoy them.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bombatomba on April 18, 2020, 01:03:26 PM
Submitted my list.  Sorry for being too wordy (couldn't help it) but I did get it up to 20.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: EZ Racer on April 22, 2020, 10:46:32 AM
Awesome to see all the involvement in this month's list.

A personal note-

My hope for all the lists is that they can be a resource for finding games to take interest in. This morning I picked up a game from a local shop mainly because it appeared on 2 lists (so far) and was cheap. I doubt I would have noticed it otherwise.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Disposed Hero on April 22, 2020, 12:11:08 PM
I haven't played many of these games for 20+ years, so I really wanted to pop some of them in and play them for a while before finalizing my list, but I don't think I'm going to have time to do that now. Most of my placement will rely heavily on memory and nostalgia. My list will likely be submitted at the last minute, as usual.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on April 23, 2020, 03:27:08 PM
Awesome to see all the involvement in this month's list.

A personal note-

My hope for all the lists is that they can be a resource for finding games to take interest in. This morning I picked up a game from a local shop mainly because it appeared on 2 lists (so far) and was cheap. I doubt I would have noticed it otherwise.

When this is done, let us know what game it is.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on April 24, 2020, 08:53:52 AM
Awesome to see all the involvement in this month's list.

A personal note-

My hope for all the lists is that they can be a resource for finding games to take interest in. This morning I picked up a game from a local shop mainly because it appeared on 2 lists (so far) and was cheap. I doubt I would have noticed it otherwise.

When this is done, let us know what game it is.

For sure


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bickman2k on May 05, 2020, 03:19:41 PM
Are there any of the extra lists coming?


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: EZ Racer on May 07, 2020, 12:42:58 AM
So it was crazy at the top for the N64 list, and while not completely surprising, only 68 total games received a vote, even with 10 voters. Compare that with 98, 93, and 105 for the NES, SNES, and Genesis respectively.

Plenty of games still got some love, though-

Single Votes through 13th place

20th place

Cruisin USA
Tony Hawk Pro Skater-
"The starting point in a fun series of skateboarding games."
Mystical Ninja- "This isn't a great game in any way, but it features some of the most exceptionally badly and hilariously translated dialog of any game in recent memory.  In fact, why haven't more people talked about this?  Slightly open world obviously inspired by Mario 64 (but with no camera controls) and some seriously wacky characters make this a game that you should at least try for thirty minutes.  I couldn't stop laughing."
Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero- "I know this game does not get a lot of love but I thoroughly enjoyed it.  It has its flaws and every one is warranted but I liked getting some backstory on the character and playing an action/fighting game.  This game isn't for everyone one, and if this was the 90's I would tell you to "rent" this one, but if you have a chance, try it out and see if you like it."
Kirby 64- "The Kirby formula of using power ups in different parts of the games to open up new levels and secrets is very addictive. This Kirby game is just a little slow pace and rough to go back to compared to most of the others which is why the lower rank."
Hydro Thunder- "-Another multiplayer racing title. Also the only console version that supports 4 players if I recall correctly. Of Midway's racing series on the console, I've always enjoyed Rush more (both in the arcade and at home), but Hydro Thunder is still a fun title to play when friends are over."

19th place

Mario Tennis
Pokemon Puzzle League-
"Another game with FMV for the 64?! This is a Tetris Attack clone that looks great on the N64 and plays very well."
Duke Mukem 64- "While this is stripped down and censored version, it does have 4 player Dukematch and some new weapons and levels."
Rampage: Universal Tour- "I didn't like this one as much as World Tour, but it gave me more Rampage, and a heck of a lot more monsters to choose from."

18th place

Space Station Silicon Valley-
"A quirky puzzle platform game that is just weird enough to keep your attention."
Turok 2- "When it was released Turok 2 was a stunner of a game.  Working at a game store, I remember the complaints against the original, but when we got our paws on part 2 everything just ceased.  It just looked so darn good!  I even remember gaming magazines in awe, showing screenshots with captions like "This is really what the game looks like" and stuff like that.  Not my favorite controls though."

17th place

Shadowgate 64
Ogre Battle 64
Hexen-
"It's more or less a Doom clone but with a gothic fantasy setting. A decently fun game in its own right, but what really made this game stand out to me was the splitscreen co-op. I remember playing through the entire game with a friend and having a lot of fun with it."

No game received a single 16th place vote

15th place

Mischief Makers-
"One of the most unique games I have ever played. Almost every stage is different from the one before it, and just when you think you've seen everything the game has to offer, it throws yet another curve at you. The controls can be a bit awkward, but once you get the hang of it, it's a fun ride."
Mortal Kombat 4- "A solid port of the arcade game."

14th place

Turok: Rage Wars
Rampage: World Tour-
"Rampage is the first game I ever played on an arcade cabinet. At 8, my mom would let me have a buck in quarters, and go to the 7-11. It was there I would discover and fall in love with this strange game, that let you play as a monster, destroy a city, and eat people. It was a double whammy, as I was discovering Kaiju at the same time. Flash forward 10 years or so, and Midway would give me Rampage:WT. Same concept but so much better."

13th place

Dr. Mario 64
Killer Instinct Gold-
"For a system with very few fighters (and even fewer good ones), they were fortunate to get a great sequel to Killer Instinct with Gold. It does what a sequel does best and doesn’t mess too much with a good thing. Just adds a few new characters and makes it looks and sound even better."

Much more to come...


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on May 07, 2020, 07:44:28 AM
3 of mine gone.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Disposed Hero on May 07, 2020, 09:12:07 AM
That's two gone for me, one of which I'm not surprised by in the slightest.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on May 07, 2020, 12:57:54 PM
That's two gone for me, one of which I'm not surprised by in the slightest.

One I'm not surprised, the other two I would have thought at least one other person would have picked it.  Especially one of them.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: EZ Racer on May 07, 2020, 03:27:59 PM
Single votes 11th or better

11th place

Vigilante 8-
"While a great many of my N64 experiences were really about circumstance (I was working in a game store with little to do but games), Vigilante 8 was a game I sought out. See, I had bought, played, and loved a quirky combat-driving sim on PC called Interstate '76, and when I heard that the characters and cars had been ported to a new game on consoles, I knew I had to check it out. Of course this game is really nothing more than the N64 answer to Twisted Metal (and people would love or hate it based on that) and not my beloved alternate 1970's take on Mechwarrior, but for me the immediate recognition of the license was enough to hook me and keep me coming back."
Shadowman- "Based on a comic book, this game is a guilty pleasure for me. When Shadowman was released, I was a young adult, and craved the kind of dark story and content, that this game provided. While the controls and graphics might not stand out, compared to other N64 games, it still had enough fun to keep me in. One might say that this game almost incorporates a Metroidvania style, requiring you to backtrack, to get through sections. I thought the voice acting was amazing at the time."

10th place

San Francisco Rush 2049-
"Along with the other games in the Rush series on the console, my brothers and I played these games constantly. I really enjoyed the customization aspect as well as the stunt mode. Whenever we went to the arcade, we'd always make sure to play the arcade cabinet version of this game."

9th place

Body Harvest-
"This is a fun, though not terribly good, action-adventure game.  It is a little bit harder to classify than some games of its day, but for the most part you are moving around the stages, moving constantly from vehicle to vehicle to see what they can do, and kill aliens.  This is one of the titles where the gameplay outclassed the graphics, meaning that at the time I had no issues forgetting what a muddy mess I was looking at, mainly because I saw a new car or tank to play with behind a building.  I guess it was no mistake then when I latched hard onto the same kind of think when DMA Designs (later Rockstar North) would develop the GTA games."

8th place

Forsaken 64-
"An amazing port of the PC 6DoF (six degrees of freedom) shooter with the strangest marketing (that anyone working a game store at the time could testify to).  It gave me the ability to place this amazing game when I didn't have the PC to run it on, and man is it fun.  Makes me dizzy sometimes as you fly through tunnels, dodging and juking to avoid and return enemy fire, but a ton of fun.  Not too much to say about it, but maybe avoid if you are sensitive to motion sickness."

7th place

WCW/NWO Revenge-
"This was my favorite wrestling game until the early WWF Smackdown games on PS1 dethroned it. My friends and I poured a ton of hours into this."

6th place

NFL Blitz 2001-
"Really, the series could be all over this list, but this is the version I played the most. A very close arcade conversion with 4 player support makes it a blast for a group!"

5th place

Nightmare Creatures-
"I am one of the people that can, without fear or discrimination, say that I loved the first Nightmare Creatures game on PSX.  So what does this version offer?  Analog control and an increased draw distance, while not compromising on the atmospheric soundtrack, which is all I really need.  It still retains all of the annoyances and quirks that detractors have used against it, and thus isn't a game that one could recommend to people.  But I totally dig it!"

4th place

Mario Party 3-
"Same formula, the third time around, but still good. This one really seemed to kick up the CP's, which made it sort of a human vs computer dynamic, rather than a free-for-all. Plenty of rounds played with good friends, having laughs well into the night."


That's it for the single vote getters, but lots of game got 2 or 3 lower rank votes.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Disposed Hero on May 07, 2020, 04:55:11 PM
That's another one out for me! Three total so far.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bombatomba on May 08, 2020, 08:10:15 AM
:)


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on May 08, 2020, 09:46:49 AM
I'm only 2 down total so far! Best I've done for any system so far.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on May 08, 2020, 10:31:20 AM
No more out for me!


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on May 08, 2020, 10:32:50 AM
Shadowman- "Based on a comic book, this game is a guilty pleasure for me. When Shadowman was released, I was a young adult, and craved the kind of dark story and content, that this game provided. While the controls and graphics might not stand out, compared to other N64 games, it still had enough fun to keep me in. One might say that this game almost incorporates a Metroidvania style, requiring you to backtrack, to get through sections. I thought the voice acting was amazing at the time."

Damn it, I forgot about this game!  I love it.  I would have probably put this in my top 10.  Dammit!


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: singlebanana on May 08, 2020, 03:56:28 PM
Shocked that Mischief Makers or Ogre Battle didn't crack the Top 20. Should be an interesting list. Looking forward to hearing about some worthy titles I may not own for this system.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: MaterialHandlerMike on May 09, 2020, 01:11:03 PM
Shadowman- "Based on a comic book, this game is a guilty pleasure for me. When Shadowman was released, I was a young adult, and craved the kind of dark story and content, that this game provided. While the controls and graphics might not stand out, compared to other N64 games, it still had enough fun to keep me in. One might say that this game almost incorporates a Metroidvania style, requiring you to backtrack, to get through sections. I thought the voice acting was amazing at the time."

Damn it, I forgot about this game!  I love it.  I would have probably put this in my top 10.  Dammit!

That was me.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Disposed Hero on May 09, 2020, 01:33:41 PM
So guys, what are some of your favorite soundtracks/tunes for the system? I'm going through various soundtracks while trying to put music to the top 20 video and am discovering some really great stuff!


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on May 09, 2020, 03:02:11 PM
So guys, what are some of your favorite soundtracks/tunes for the system? I'm going through various soundtracks while trying to put music to the top 20 video and am discovering some really great stuff!

Banjo Kazooie comes to mind right away for its music. Otherwise nothing jumps out at me.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on May 09, 2020, 04:38:03 PM
So guys, what are some of your favorite soundtracks/tunes for the system? I'm going through various soundtracks while trying to put music to the top 20 video and am discovering some really great stuff!

Banjo Kazooie comes to mind right away for its music. Otherwise nothing jumps out at me.
  I was going to say Banjo, too, but honestly, I haven't played the N64 in 10+ years so I don't remember much about the music.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Disposed Hero on May 09, 2020, 05:53:38 PM
Cool, I've never played the Banjo games and haven't listened to the soundtracks, but I'll have to check those out.

Some of the ones that I was really getting into were Goldeneye, F-Zero X, and 1080 Snowboarding. I love the thrashy goodness of 1080's title screen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJA5KmN5d7g&t=


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: EZ Racer on May 10, 2020, 11:45:21 PM
Apologies for overlooking one of the single vote games-

One 18th place vote

007 The World is not Enough


And now for the Multi-vote Also Rans-

Extreme G (#17, #16)

Goemon's Great Adventure (#18, #14)
"Supposed to be the sequel to the Mystical Ninja game, but who the heck knows.  What I do know is that this game features a lot of 2.5D gameplay, and while it still isn't great, it is still fun enough to see through to the end, and not because terrible dialog!"

"Super goofy and colorful action heavy game that messes around with some other genres in small doses. Very fun and very funny."

Pokemon Stadium (#16, #14)
"Nothing was more satisfying then battling your friends with your own pokemon on the TV."

"Along with Pokemon Stadium 2, seeing my Pokemon in 3D was immensely cool as was the ability to play my Game Boy games on the 64. These have great collections of mini games."


Hybrid Heaven (#19, #10)
"A neat little Christmas RPG! The combat is the selling point here where you use wrestling moves in a turnbased combat system! You can disable opponents apendages by breaking them which in turn limits their attack options and vice versa when they are used on you. It’s got some really awful dialogue to go along with it’s bizzare sci-fi story. If you’re in the mood for a good gaming “B-Movie” this should scratch that itch."

A weird turn based fighting RPG.  I've never seen any other game try something similar.  I loved the battle mechanics in this game and it's still a game I like to revisit."


Beetle Adventure Racing (#15, #7)
"My dad has always been into American cars and has never shown an interest in racing games featuring foreign cars. I was definitely surprised when he brought this game home and we all absolutely loved it. There are a ton of secrets in each level, and this game was a constant in our multiplayer sessions."

"A racing game themed around Volkswagen Beetles sounds so so very dumb. The really amazing track designs make this game really shine though. Very inventive courses with amazing shortcuts for those looking out for them."

WinBack (#14, #7)
"Introduced a brilliant cover system that would be popularized by later games.  This one still holds up really well and has a solid and entertaining story mode."

WCW vs NWO World Tour (#18, #14, #12)
"AKI & THQ really nailed the wrestling formula with this game and established the formula that many future wrestling games were based on."

"I didn't watch a lot of wrestling growing up, but I really loved the N64 wrestling games. 4 player fun!"

"I'm not that interested in wrestling games but I played this at my brothers and it became an instant favorite.  This was at a time when wrestling games became more involved and included different move sets and being four player made it all the more fun.  We had TONS of fun playing four player and is recommended for four player fun!"


Gauntlet Legends (#19, #18, #9)
"Another great arcade conversion that hits the N64 complete with 4 player support. So much fun with a crowd!

"I've mostly played this game in single player, but it does support up to 4 players. I've never been a huge fan of hack and slash games, but I think the settings and relative simplicity of the game are what drew me in. This game makes me wonder if the unreleased Dragon Sword would have given this game a run for its money."


Turok: Dinosaur Hunter (#19, #16, #9)

Mario Golf (#13, #13, #12)
"Its Mario. Its Golf. Its a really fun, quirky golf game that provides a challenge, while not taking itself too seriously."

"Simple is best with sports games on console and Mario Golf keeps it easy to understand and hard to master. Lots of great courses and some interesting modes to play around with."

"A fun arcade style golf game with Mario characters. More 4 player fun!"


1080 Snowboarding (#20, #18, #17, #13)
"A fun "extreme sports" game that appealed to the skateboarder my youth.

"The first of many great racing games to appear on my list. It’s got a small cast, board selection and tracks, BUT everything that is included is great. No crap to cut. And it’s got some fun unlockable characters and boards that take some serious skill to open up."

"The first snowboarding game I ever played, and the only one since that I have gotten invested in. I remember really enjoying this game back in the day."


Conker's Bad Fur Day (#17, #11, #7)
"This is such a weird adventure game that got people to care about it by being gross.  I didn't get a chance to play it until a couple years after it was released (when it was about $5) and was blown away that it was even a thing.  I mean...  wow.  I don't think there is even a PG-13 way of describing what even happens in this game.  Given the time it came out (and the console) it feels very much like a swan song from a dying company, and includes everything from heavily inebriated and belligerent animals, well endowed flowers, operatic feces, and tons of movie references and fourth wall breaking.

"Another one of the games I wasn't allowed to watch my dad play. Going back years later made it obvious, and I'll play this game when I'm in the mood for a more adult version of Banjo Kazooie."


Mario Party 2 (#6, #3)
"I love the Mario Party franchise. It was the most innovative way of utilizing the N64's 4 controller ports, for a completely revolutionary action/board game. Mario Party 2, just stands out as my favorite, of the three on N64."


I didn't save quite as many Honorable Mentions for this list, as there was a large gap in points between Mario Party 2 and the lowest scoring HM. Stay tuned...


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: EZ Racer on May 11, 2020, 12:01:27 AM
Awesome to see all the involvement in this month's list.

A personal note-

My hope for all the lists is that they can be a resource for finding games to take interest in. This morning I picked up a game from a local shop mainly because it appeared on 2 lists (so far) and was cheap. I doubt I would have noticed it otherwise.

When this is done, let us know what game it is.

For sure

So, as promised- the game I picked up was Hybrid Heaven. Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but again I hope the lists can be a bit of a resource for finding out about otherwise unknown games, as well as discussing the classics.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: singlebanana on May 11, 2020, 08:50:55 AM
So guys, what are some of your favorite soundtracks/tunes for the system? I'm going through various soundtracks while trying to put music to the top 20 video and am discovering some really great stuff!

Conker's actually has great iconic music


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on May 11, 2020, 08:52:42 PM
Awesome to see all the involvement in this month's list.

A personal note-

My hope for all the lists is that they can be a resource for finding games to take interest in. This morning I picked up a game from a local shop mainly because it appeared on 2 lists (so far) and was cheap. I doubt I would have noticed it otherwise.

When this is done, let us know what game it is.

For sure

So, as promised- the game I picked up was Hybrid Heaven. Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but again I hope the lists can be a bit of a resource for finding out about otherwise unknown games, as well as discussing the classics.

Oh awesome! Who was the other guy I need to high five for putting this gem on their list as well?


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on May 12, 2020, 07:50:11 AM
Awesome to see all the involvement in this month's list.

A personal note-

My hope for all the lists is that they can be a resource for finding games to take interest in. This morning I picked up a game from a local shop mainly because it appeared on 2 lists (so far) and was cheap. I doubt I would have noticed it otherwise.

When this is done, let us know what game it is.

For sure

So, as promised- the game I picked up was Hybrid Heaven. Haven't had a chance to try it yet, but again I hope the lists can be a bit of a resource for finding out about otherwise unknown games, as well as discussing the classics.

Oh awesome! Who was the other guy I need to high five for putting this gem on their list as well?

It wasn't me but I have this game and have yet to play it.  After reading the quotes I need to play this game!


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on May 12, 2020, 07:50:23 AM
Another three off my list.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: MetalFRO on May 12, 2020, 08:15:11 AM
Goemon's Great Adventure is actually one of the few N64 games I have that's off the beaten path. Fun little game, though it's one I haven't put enough time into. And while I haven't played the N64 version of Gauntlet Legends, the Dreamcast version is awesome. Fun game.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bickman2k on May 12, 2020, 09:04:39 AM
Man, I should have kept an eye on this thread after I asked for updates... 8 of my games have been mentioned across the various extra lists so far.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Disposed Hero on May 12, 2020, 09:13:52 AM
I probably should have included Mario Golf on my list. I played it quite a bit back in the day but have mostly forgotten about it over the years.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: singlebanana on May 12, 2020, 10:00:03 AM
Once again, great work Racer!


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bombatomba on May 12, 2020, 11:18:42 AM
I probably should have included Mario Golf on my list. I played it quite a bit back in the day but have mostly forgotten about it over the years.

I have never played the game, but really wish I had, and I might have done the same.  I cannot help to notice that Camelot is the dev for this title, and I am a huge fan of Mario Golf on GBC.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Disposed Hero on May 12, 2020, 12:19:47 PM
Alright, the final list is on the front page, so I'm laying my cards out on the table:

1.   Mario Kart 64 – My friends and I spent countless hours playing this, and I'm pretty sure I absolutely dissected this game, conquering every mode and unlocking everything. The battle mode was always a hit during multiplayer sessions.

2.   Goldeneye 007 – Rare's unique take on the FPS genre struck a chord with many people, myself included. Large levels with multiple objectives depending on difficulty setting, tons of weapons and gadgets to use, and that sweet battle mode. Many hours were spent playing both the single-player campaign and the multiplayer battle mode.

3.   Resident Evil 2 – One of the best survival-horror titles of all time receives a great port for the N64. What’s not to like?

4.   Super Smash Bros. – Another game I poured a ton of hours into, both by myself and with friends, unlocking everything and completing every challenge in the game. I always enjoyed the fast-paced chaotic action of this series.

5.   Super Mario 64 – I've never been a big fan of 3D platformers, and for the longest time Super Mario 64 stood as the only one I really enjoyed. A revolutionary title for its time, and a game I still enjoy just as much now as I did in 1996.

6.   The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time – A turning point for one of the all-time greatest video game series. Some of the sequels have improved and refined the experience over the years, but this entry still stands the test of time, no pun intended.

7.   WCW/NWO Revenge – This was my favorite wrestling game until the early WWF Smackdown games on PS1 dethroned it. My friends and I poured a ton of hours into this.

8.   Mario Party – I spent a lot of time playing this with friends and family. Ending friendships has never been so much fun!

9.   Star Fox 64 – My favorite entry in the Star Fox series by far. The gameplay is fun and smooth with multiple paths and stages throughout, and the game is always endearing with its personality and charm. A great game that still holds up today!

10.   Doom 64 – Some bad level design rears its head more often than I’d like, but it's a fun game otherwise, and the classic Doom action never gets old!

11.   Star Wars: Rogue Squadron – A great flight combat game set in the Star Wars universe. If you enjoyed the opening Hoth level of Shadows of the Empire but lost interest once the third-person action stages started, then definitely check this game out!

12.   WCW vs. NWO World Tour – AKI & THQ really nailed the wrestling formula with this game and established the formula that many future wrestling games were based on.

13.   Diddy Kong Racing – Takes the Mario Kart formula and introduces some new elements such as aerial vehicles. Not quite as good as Mario Kart, but I still had a lot of fun with this one back in the day.

14.   Paper Mario – I didn't play this game until after playing The Thousand Year Door, and honestly I found this game to be pretty disappointing in comparison. However, this is still a solid RPG, and when it comes to RPGs on the N64, beggars can't be choosers.

15.   Mischief Makers – One of the most unique games I have ever played. Almost every stage is different from the one before it, and just when you think you've seen everything the game has to offer, it throws yet another curve at you. The controls can be a bit awkward, but once you get the hang of it, it's a fun ride.

16.   The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask – There are a lot of tedious elements in this game, but I still enjoy the core Zelda mechanics. It's a pretty good game when it gets out of its own way.

17.   Hexen – It's more or less a Doom clone but with a gothic fantasy setting. A decently fun game in its own right, but what really made this game stand out to me was the splitscreen co-op. I remember playing through the entire game with a friend and having a lot of fun with it.

18.   Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire – It's kind of a jankfest other than the classic opening Hoth level and a few other flight stages, but I played this game a ton as a kid and will always have a soft spot for it.

19.   Wave Race 64 – The first racing game ever released for the N64 was something unique and really caught my interest at the time. I rented this game a few times and remember having a lot of fun with it.

20.   1080 Snowboarding – The first snowboarding game I ever played, and the only one since that I have gotten invested in. I remember really enjoying this game back in the day.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Link41 on May 12, 2020, 02:23:47 PM
So guys, what are some of your favorite soundtracks/tunes for the system? I'm going through various soundtracks while trying to put music to the top 20 video and am discovering some really great stuff!

Banjo Kazooie comes to mind right away for its music. Otherwise nothing jumps out at me.
  I was going to say Banjo, too, but honestly, I haven't played the N64 in 10+ years so I don't remember much about the music.
Super Mario 64 also has some great tunes as does Donkey Kong 64.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: Crabmaster2000 on May 13, 2020, 08:39:00 AM
Really really great to see so many people adding their comments for this one! Lots of cool thoughts on these games. I think some of you misunderstood the list though as Donkey Kong 64 is a bottom 20 N64 games contender. Also very surprised to see Jet Force Gemini and Blast Corp so high. Those are not great games (and I have a lot of love for Jet Force Gemini).


1. Star Wars: Rogue Squadron - I surprised myself when formatting my list that this came out as my number 1. I knew I really loved it, but I’ve never really stacked it head to head with other N64 games. This is one of the greatest licensed games, one of the best Star Wars games and one of the best air combat games. Lots of new lore added to the franchise, with a great dose of familiar nostalgia hits thrown in for good measure too. Get to fly missions as multiple iconic ships from Star Wars across a really impressive variety of awesome locations. The missions you get rewarded with for getting medals on each stage are just some of the best rewards off all time for your hard work. What a masterpiece!

2. Goldeneye 007 - My personal favorite FPS game. I like the classified folders with info pre-mission. I like the objective based levels. I like the ability to play each level at the difficulty level you’re ready for at that time. I like every stage having its own time based target to unlock a neat or silly secret. Just a joy from start to finish whether I’m in the mood to play it short and sloppy or really sink in and 100% it.

3. Super Mario 64 - The game that showed the rest of the world how 3D platforming was done. And it’s still one of the best examples in the genre! Camera issues aside this is still an incredible game that’s a joy to play.

4. Resident Evil 2 - One of the greatest horror games ever. Very cool story, limited resources, sparse save rooms, legitimately scary enemies, multiple campaigns and some cool rewards for mastering the game.

5. Legend of Zelda Ocarina of Time - The template for 3D adventure games for decades now. Still holds up great and has some wonderfully simplistic story telling, great dungeons, clever puzzles, amazing atmosphere and some of the most iconic music of all time.

6. Star Wars Episode 1 Racer - One of my favorite racing games of all time. I don’t know if any game has ever captured the feel of a movie scene so perfectly before. So many great tracks, amazing vehicles upgrade system and a true sense of speed and danger.

7. Pokemon Snap - I don’t know how to make this game sound fun by describing it. It just is. Taking pictures of Pokemon (I’m not a huge Pokemon fan) should be the worst. Think of is like an on rails shooter if you have to, but just give it a try.

8. Banjo-Kazooie - One of the all time greats when it comes to 3D platforming. Just enough collectables to keep it obtainable and not overwhelming like many of its contemporaries (and even it’s sequel). Amazing use of music and sound. Fun progression of power ups and a great sense of humor.

9. Legend of Zelda Majora’s Mask - This is a great kind of sequel/spin off. Just try something totally off the wall different, but in a familiar framework. Very unique and special game that will have you stressed as you play, but ultimately very rewarding.

10. Star Fox 64 - Probably the best on rails shooter of all time. Awesome theme, cool music, great controls, neat style varied paths, individual level rankings and different types of vehicles make each playthrough different enough that it calls you back to try again even after you beat it.

11. Mario Golf - Simple is best with sports games on console and Mario Golf keeps it easy to understand and hard to master. Lots of great courses and some interesting modes to play around with.

12. Killer Instinct Gold - For a system with very few fighters (and even fewer good ones), they were fortunate to get a great sequel to Killer Instinct with Gold. It does what a sequel does best and doesn’t mess too much with a good thing. Just adds a few new characters and makes it looks and sound even better.

13. Perfect Dark - Slap a heavy coat of sci-fi paint on Goldeneye and you get some Perfect Dark. Cool mission based levels with a good mix of action and stealth. Through in a  few extremely memorable weapons and a goofy alien sidekick and you’ve got a classic!

14. Beetle Adventure Racing - A racing game themed around Volkswagen Beetles sounds so so very dumb. The really amazing track designs make this game really shine though. Very inventive courses with amazing shortcuts for those looking out for them.

15. F-Zero X - I don’t think there is a bad F-Zero game, but this one is probably the weakest imo. Doesn’t quite capture that feeling of fast like a lot of the other games in the series.

16. 1080 Snowboarding - The first of many great racing games to appear on my list. It’s got a small cast, board selection and tracks, BUT everything that is included is great. No crap to cut. And it’s got some fun unlockable characters and boards that take some serious skill to open up.

17. Goemon’s Great Adventure - Super goofy and colorful action heavy game that messes around with some other genres in small doses. Very fun and very funny.

18. Hybrid Heaven - A neat little Christmas RPG! The combat is the selling point here where you use wrestling moves in a turnbased combat system! You can disable opponents apendages by breaking them which in turn limits their attack options and vice versa when they are used on you. It’s got some really awful dialogue to go along with it’s bizzare sci-fi story. If you’re in the mood for a good gaming “B-Movie” this should scratch that itch.

19. Kirby 64 - The Kirby formula of using power ups in different parts of the games to open up new levels and secrets is very addictive. This Kirby game is just a little slow pace and rough to go back to compared to most of the others which is why the lower rank.

I also made a mistake and should have Mario Kart in number 9 and the rest bumped down one spot.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bickman2k on May 13, 2020, 08:45:43 AM
Here's my list.

1. Super Mario 64 - Weird that the best game was a launch title... Defined how 3D games were controlled. Still a lot of fun to play.

2. Super Smash Bros - Launched a series of fighting games with easy controls to pick up, but so much underneath it.

3. Paper Mario - A fun start to a new series that included platforming, puzzles, and RPG mechanics that is still a fun play.

4. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time - While not my favorite in the series, it's still a solid title in the first 3D entry.

5. Mario Kart 64 - Great 4 player fun, expanded battle mode, an easy "just one more" title.

6. NFL Blitz 2001 - Really, the series could be all over this list, but this is the version I played the most. A very close arcade conversion with 4 player support makes it a blast for a group!

7. Star Fox 64 - Increased game play speed, huge bosses, and plenty of variety make this a must have title. Oh, and thanks for the Rumble Pak.

8. Pokemon Snap - An on rails shooter (get it?) where you take pictures of Pokemon. Lots to explore, plenty of secrets and unlockables that give you additional replay value.

9. Gauntlet Legends - Another great arcade conversion that hits the N64 complete with 4 player support. So much fun with a crowd!

10. Banjo-Kazooie - A solid Rare platform collect-a-thon that controls solidly and has a lot of great and varied environments.

11. Shadows of the Empire - One of the best opening levels in gaming. A nice mix of levels that show off a lot of different Star Wars environments and characters.

12. Donkey Kong 64 - The game that brought the Expansion Pak to the N64. Refined some of the Banjo-Kazooie enhancements to make another solid 3D platformer.

13. Mario Golf - A fun arcade style golf game with Mario characters. More 4 player fun!

14. WCW vs NWO World Tour - I didn't watch a lot of wrestling growing up, but I really loved the N64 wrestling games. 4 player fun!

15. Mortal Kombat 4 - A solid port of the arcade game.

16. Mario Party - DANGER! DANGER! Your palms and analog sticks are in for some pain!

17. Wave Race 64 - Pretty good water physics, a good soundtrack, and just plain fun.

18. Space Station Silicon Valley - A quirky puzzle platform game that is just weird enough to keep your attention.

19. Duke Nukem 64 - While this is stripped down and censored version, it does have 4 player Dukematch and some new weapons and levels.

20. Tony Hawk Pro Skater - The starting point in a fun series of skateboarding games.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bombatomba on May 13, 2020, 01:50:40 PM
1. Super Mario 64 – Man, what a great game.  Before release I grasped at every bit of info I could of this game waiting on release of the N64, so much that I didn't notice until a month later that there really wasn't anything else to play!  The movement just feels so natural, and the one big complaint against the game (the camera) still manages to feel better than most other 3D platformers.  Much like the contributions of the original Super Mario Bros back on the NES, Super Mario 64 is the defacto standard for what a 3D platformer should be.

2. DOOM 64 – My second favorite original DOOM console port, and the dimmest (visually speaking) game I have ever played in my life.  I am sad to say that while I have owned this game for decades, I couldn't play it properly until I finally attached my N64 to an LCD less than ten years ago, but it was worth the wait.  While not as atmospheric as the PSX port, DOOM 64 stands above some of the others simply because the it just looks and plays better than the others.  Recently bought it on Switch and playing through it all over again is a joy.

3. Paper Mario – I passed up this game because I wasn't a big fan of Mario RPG on SNES.  Now I really regret not playing it more when I had the chance, because man did the price jump!  At the time I was like, "I only want the edgy stuff on the console that loads a lot!" and nonsense like that, so naturally I avoided it.  While not overtly goofy, Paper Mario provides the perfect gateway to Mario & Luigi (which I played first), and I find the art so charming and attractive.  I do wish they had more "paper" style puns, but that would come later, I guess.  Now I get my Paper Mario kicks on the 3DS with its many sequels and spin-offs, but it stings a little to know that I could have been having this kind of fun twenty years ago.

4. Goldeneye – Goldeneye, much like Super Mario 64, is not just a N64 standard, but a standard of its genre (at least back in its day).  Up until this point FPS games on console tended to follow the same template of trying to juggle how to handle verticality (or "looking"), and the results were usually substandard.  Try and explain this to a PC gamer (who had always had superior controls) and they would laugh.  Until Goldeneye.  This game actually let me feel like I was controlling a secret agent, and Agent 007 would glide effortlessly through levels, quickly neutralizing enemies with his signature silenced pistol.  Visually it hasn't aged as well (unless you are emulating), but I find Goldeneye fun to this day.

5. Nightmare Creatures – I am one of the people that can, without fear or discrimination, say that I loved the first Nightmare Creatures game on PSX.  So what does this version offer?  Analog control and an increased draw distance, while not compromising on the atmospheric soundtrack, which is all I really need.  It still retains all of the annoyances and quirks that detractors have used against it, and thus isn't a game that one could recommend to people.  But I totally dig it!

6. Perfect Dark – Perfect Dark, like Conker, is another game that I picked up very late for super cheap (in fact, for the same price at the same place), and look what we have here; we have a coherent story, voice acting (though sometimes a bit muffled) and quite frankly fantastic gameplay that feels like an evolution of Goldeneye, and playing Perfect Dark after the masterpiece that was Goldeneye (and many of the mediocre to good shooters the N64 had to offer) really made you realize how much higher the bar could be set with something simple as presentation, which was the same thing that we on the PC had played with the original Half-life.  Excellent game, really top shelf.

7. Conker's Bad Fur Day - This is such a weird adventure game that got people to care about it by being gross.  I didn't get a chance to play it until a couple years after it was released (when it was about $5) and was blown away that it was even a thing.  I mean...  wow.  I don't think there is even a PG-13 way of describing what even happens in this game.  Given the time it came out (and the console) it feels very much like a swan song from a dying company, and includes everything from heavily inebriated and belligerent animals, well endowed flowers, operatic feces, and tons of movie references and fourth wall breaking.

8. Forsaken 64 – An amazing port of the PC 6DoF (six degrees of freedom) shooter with the strangest marketing (that anyone working a game store at the time could testify to).  It gave me the ability to place this amazing game when I didn't have the PC to run it on, and man is it fun.  Makes me dizzy sometimes as you fly through tunnels, dodging and juking to avoid and return enemy fire, but a ton of fun.  Not too much to say about it, but maybe avoid if you are sensitive to motion sickness.

9. Body Harvest – This is a fun, though not terribly good, action-adventure game.  It is a little bit harder to classify than some games of its day, but for the most part you are moving around the stages, moving constantly from vehicle to vehicle to see what they can do, and kill aliens.  This is one of the titles where the gameplay outclassed the graphics, meaning that at the time I had no issues forgetting what a muddy mess I was looking at, mainly because I saw a new car or tank to play with behind a building.  I guess it was no mistake then when I latched hard onto the same kind of think when DMA Designs (later Rockstar North) would develop the GTA games.

10. Mario Kart 64 – What is there to say about this?  It's Mario Kart, but with hills and power slide boosts.  And four player split screen deathmatch.  Used to play a lot of this at one point in my life, and it was the only non-single player game that I would play.  The main races are fun, but for me, nothing beats that four player deathmatch.

11. Vigilante 8 – While a great many of my N64 experiences were really about circumstance (I was working in a game store with little to do but games), Vigilante 8 was a game I sought out. See, I had bought, played, and loved a quirky combat-driving sim on PC called Interstate '76, and when I heard that the characters and cars had been ported to a new game on consoles, I knew I had to check it out. Of course this game is really nothing more than the N64 answer to Twisted Metal (and people would love or hate it based on that) and not my beloved alternate 1970's take on Mechwarrior, but for me the immediate recognition of the license was enough to hook me and keep me coming back.

12. Blast Corps – This game took a genre that I dislike (puzzle games) and made it about stuff that I like (blowing stuff up) using a variety of construction/destruction vehicles, many of them real life. Most people like the dragon-punch robot the best, but my favorite is the large truck with the sides that pop out.

13. Star Wars: Rogue Squadron 3D – Star Wars flight sim on console, which is basically all that needs to be said.  Not super complicated but still has plenty of fun stuff to keep players from putting it down for too long.  I loved it because of the license and the feel of the ships (though wished they had more), liked it because of the punishing difficulty, and hated it because of the V-wing missions.  Just die in a lake, stupid V-Wings, seriously.  Not worth a single gold medal.

14. Goemon's Great Adventure – Supposed to be the sequel to the Mystical Ninja game, but who the heck knows.  What I do know is that this game features a lot of 2.5D gameplay, and while it still isn't great, it is still fun enough to see through to the end, and not because terrible dialog!

15. Resident Evil 2 – Although my collection would speak otherwise (RE2 for PC, N64, and PSX), I don't like RE2 all that much.  But this port was something special, if nothing due to the level of skill that it took to cram two discs of content onto a single cartridge.  Even to this day it blows my mind (and I think speaks heavily to the skill of the developers) to play this game and know the storage medium was the source of ridicule from the fans of the "disc consoles."

16. Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire – This game didn't age all that well, I don't think, but when it came out many people (including me) tricked themselves into thinking it was wonderful.  We loved the brand so much that we went crazy at the mere mention of new content.  Much like Super Star Wars on the SNES before it, I ate up Shadows like it would disappear at any moment, caring nothing for any faults.  As far as I cared, it look and sounded great, and let me fight IG-88!  Who cared if I had to do weird acrobats to destroy an AT-ST with a blaster (because I ran out of missiles).  I finally got to find out what Han Solo's tiny blurb in Empire Strikes Back (bounty hunter in Ord Mandell) was about!

17. The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time – Confession time, I don't like the last half of this game at all and have never beat it on my own (though I like it enough to pick up the 3DS remake and pick it up every now and then to play).  The first time I walked into Hyrule field it felt grand, like it was exactly what I wanted: an open world Zelda game.  The sense that I could roam the land as if I lived here was real, and although I have a real love/hate relationship with this title, it was but another brick in the wall to build my love of open world-style games.

18. Turok 2 – When it was released Turok 2 was a stunner of a game.  Working at a game store, I remember the complaints against the original, but when we got our paws on part 2 everything just ceased.  It just looked so darn good!  I even remember gaming magazines in awe, showing screenshots with captions like "This is really what the game looks like" and stuff like that.  Not my favorite controls though.

19. Jet Force Gemini – I really have mixed feelings about this game.  On one hand, it can be a lot of fun, with enemy AI taking falling back and taking cover.  But on the other hand, I don't really feel like I ever got a good bead on what exactly is happening in this game.  It's quirky, but as I move from area to area, killing bugs and searching the landscape for allies and ammo, I sometimes get a bit dizzy, and in a game like this that is bad, because Jet Force Gemini is HARD, and with limited continues I don't think I will ever see that ending outside of YouTube.  Won't stop me from trying though.

20. Mystical Ninja – This isn't a great game in any way, but it features some of the most exceptionally badly and hilariously translated dialog of any game in recent memory.  In fact, why haven't more people talked about this?  Slightly open world obviously inspired by Mario 64 (but with no camera controls) and some seriously wacky characters make this a game that you should at least try for thirty minutes.  I couldn't stop laughing.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: shaggy on May 13, 2020, 07:09:56 PM
1. Goldeneye 007 It's Goldeneye and four player fun.  Enough said!
2. Blast Corps  When I saw this game in Nintendo Power I knew I had to get it.  In this game you need to clear the landscape so a run away missile can get from the bottom of the screen to the top.  It doesn't sound exciting but it is!  I hunted down a copy and it is still worth every single penny.  This is a hidden gem on the N64 and you NEED to go get this game.
3. Diddy Kong Racing
4. Jet Force Gemini
5. Banjo-Tooie
6. Super Mario 64
7. Resident Evil 2
8. Star Wars: Shadows of the Empire When I got my N64, this was not one of the first games I bought but my brother did get this.  I played this at his house and loved it!  Needless to say, I borrowed his copy until i beat it.
 The graphics at the time were not bad (they don't hold up today), the gameplay was really good, and I enjoyed every aspect of this game.  A great Star Wars title.
9. Perfect Dark
10. Mario Party
11. Conker's Bad Fur Day
12. Banjo-Kazooie
13. Donkey Kong 64
14. Turok: Rage Wars
15. Zelda: Ocarina of Time
16. Turok: Dinosaur Hunter
17. Shadowgate 64
18. WCW vs. NWO: World Tour  I'm not that interested in wrestling games but I played this at my brothers and it became an instant favorite.  This was at a time when wrestling games became more involved and included different move sets and being four player made it all the more fun.  We had TONS of fun playing four player and is recommended for four player fun!
19. Gauntlet Legends
20. Mortal Kombat Mythologies: Sub-Zero  I know this game does not get a lot of love but I thoroughly enjoyed it.  It has its flaws and every one is warranted but I liked getting some backstory on the character and playing an action/fighting game.  This game isn't for everyone one, and if this was the 90's I would tell you to "rent" this one, but if you have a chance, try it out and see if you like it.

You'll notice 9 out of my 20 games are Rare games.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: bombatomba on May 14, 2020, 08:00:25 AM
I don't think I've ever played either Shadowgate 64 or Gauntlet Legends.  I did not do a slow crawl through the library of the N64 like I'm doing with the GB, and I wonder if I did would have still picked the same games?


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: blcklblskt on May 19, 2020, 10:24:44 AM
Here's my list:

1.) Star Fox 64
-One of my favorite games of all time due to its incredible replayability, tight controls, addictive gameplay and of course, "amazing" voice acting. I try to play through this at least once a month

2.) Pokemon Snap
-Another one of my favorites. This is a pretty unique rail-shooter that I'll take down from the shelf at least once a year to wipe the game save and replay the entire game through again.

3.) Banjo-Kazooie
-In my opinion, the pinnacle of that generation's 3D platforming games. Great graphics and tight gameplay, along with great music and sound effects make this a great game.

4.) Super Mario 64
-Super Mario 64 packs in a great art style, incredibly nuanced movement physics, awesome music and an endless amount of lore in terms of development secrets (did you know those black dots in the smoke cloud when Mario gets burned were actually supposed to be transparent smoke clouds? There was a bug in the code that went unnoticed for 20 years that caused this issue! https://www.retrorgb.com/...fixed-after-24-years.html) into a 4mb cart. I'm very excited to see what Nintendo does with their Super Mario collection upcoming for the Switch, and I'm hoping they include rumble like the Shindou version in Japan did.

5.) The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
-A game I imagine will be tops on many lists, this is the first Zelda game I can remember watching my dad play through when I was a kid. I still hum Epona's Song constantly.

6.) Paper Mario
-One of my favorite art-styles on the Nintendo 64. Although the game can be a bit too easy, it's still fun to play through every once in a while

7.) Beetle Adventure Racing!
-My dad has always been into American cars and has never shown an interest in racing games featuring foreign cars. I was definitely surprised when he brought this game home and we all absolutely loved it. There are a ton of secrets in each level, and this game was a constant in our multiplayer sessions.

8.) Blast Corps
-Another unique title that I still enjoy playing. A bonkers story, annoyingly-addicting sound bytes, and fun and unique gameplay make this one of the must-plays on the console.

9.) Wave Race 64
-I'll echo what everyone else will likely say about this title - great water physics! Another early title for the Nintendo 64 that blew me away visually. The game also has fun gameplay and the upbeat announcer always make me laugh. If you can import the Japanese-only Shindou (Rumble Pak) version, it's a fun addition to the game that I wish came out over here.

10.) San Francisco Rush 2049
-Along with the other games in the Rush series on the console, my brothers and I played these games constantly. I really enjoyed the customization aspect as well as the stunt mode. Whenever we went to the arcade, we'd always make sure to play the arcade cabinet version of this game.

11.) Mario Kart 64
-Continuing with the multiplayer theme of the console, this was another title that received heavy gameplay when I was growing up.

12.) F-Zero X
-A racing game that didn't get much playtime growing up due to its difficulty, I enjoy playing this one occasionally as an adult. From a technical perspective this is one of the few 64 games that ran at 60 fps so its interesting to how much detail had to be chopped in order to get it to hit that target. After getting an Nintendo 64DD, I had to pick up the Expansion Disk for the additional tracks and the track editor. The expansion disk definitely make me a bit sad wondering decades later what could have been had the 64DD not been DOA.

13.) 1080 Snowboarding
-A fun "extreme sports" game that appealed to the skateboarder my youth.

14.) Pokemon Stadium
-Along with Pokemon Stadium 2, seeing my Pokemon in 3D was immensely cool as was the ability to play my Game Boy games on the 64. These have great collections of mini games.

15.) Diddy Kong Racing
-I loved the variety in this game along with the hub world. This is another great racing game for the console.

16.) Resident Evil 2
-Being a (mostly) Nintendo family growing up, I wasn't used to watching FMV sequences in video games. Visually, this game was good enough to give me nightmares as a kid, and the zombie sound effects spooked me. This was the first game I can remember where my mom made us play in the basement while my dad was playing. Good times.

17.) Conker's Bad Fur Day
-Another one of the games I wasn't allowed to watch my dad play. Going back years later made it obvious, and I'll play this game when I'm in the mood for a more adult version of Banjo Kazooie.

18.) Gauntlet Legends
-I've mostly played this game in single player, but it does support up to 4 players. I've never been a huge fan of hack and slash games, but I think the settings and relative simplicity of the game are what drew me in. This game makes me wonder if the unreleased Dragon Sword would have given this game a run for its money.

19.) Pokemon Puzzle League
-Another game with FMV for the 64?! This is a Tetris Attack clone that looks great on the N64 and plays very well.

20.) Hydro Thunder
-Another multiplayer racing title. Also the only console version that supports 4 players if I recall correctly. Of Midway's racing series on the console, I've always enjoyed Rush more (both in the arcade and at home), but Hydro Thunder is still a fun title to play when friends are over.

Honorable mentions: Get an RGB mod/HDMI mod with de-blur! It makes an immense difference!

And a couple of Japanese-exclusive games:

Sin and Punishment
-A Japanese exclusive (unfortunately) which looks incredible, is incredibly fun, and thankfully doesn't require much knowledge of Japanese to have a great time.

Custom Robo
-Although Custom Robo and Custom Robo V2 are Japanese-only, there is an English-language patch available for the first game that works on an Everdrive 64. I'm a big fan of Custom Robo and the various nuances that go into creating each robo, and being able to play it in English makes it that much more enjoyable.

Bakuretsu Muteki Bangai-O
-Another Japanese exclusive, also by Treasure, that makes use of the D-Pad and Joystick controller layout. One of the few 2D games on the Nintendo 64, it looks great today and plays great. I have to try the Dreamcast version at some point.


Title: Re: RFGen's Top 20 N64 games
Post by: jcjeremy518 on June 28, 2020, 05:58:03 AM
The game I like to play the most from list put together is Super Mario 64