Fuck you guys are behind the times

Wii
Tales of Symphonia: Dawn Of The New World
- massive coverage in the March 08 issue of Nintendo Power
- direct sequel of Tales of Symphonia
- spinoff title - aside from the regular Tales fare there is a Pokemonesque monster capture system in place. Only two new "main" characters will fully be members of your party
- Symphonia characters return - playable
- Lloyd is trying to stop you - bad like Mithos or bad as in Kratos bad?
Xbox 360
Tales of Vesperia
- confirmed for release by Play magazine
- Famitsu was shocked by the Play article and called Namco to confirm. Namco confirmed and the phone transcript is available on Famitsu's site
- Being released in North America first
- no platform has been announced for Japanese release yet
Now no release dates have been confirmed as of yet but... It appears that Vesperia will be released on Sept 30th to commemorate the 10th anniversary of the release of Tales of Destiny in North America. The interview pointed most of us in that direction. Note that Namco released a collector's edition, director's cut of Destiny in Japan for the anniversary. Since we didn't have Destiny at the time, it's only fitting for ToV to arrive on that date. The first Tales series game to come here first - in time for the anniversary. I just wish they'd release Destiny 2 here.
What's that? Destiny 2 was released here? WRONG! Destiny 2 in North America is actually Tales of Eternia! ToD 2 was NEVER released here and is a direct sequel to Destiny

Release date speculation for ToS 2 so far is that it'll for sure be by the end of 2008 (again with the anniversary). Here's what us Tales experts think:
October 10th: NA Abyss release date, Abyss was JAP anniversary game.
December 15th: The JAP 10th anniversary of Tales, also Abyss release date
December 23rd: Tales of Phantasia SFC JAP Playstation release date - first game in the Tales series.
I think: Dec 15th is the best bet and about 95% accurate. If Vesperia does come out on Sep 30th it's damn near a for-sure thing. Dec 15th is THE Tales anniversary so it's only fitting that the Symphonia sequel arrive then. Especially since it's the only sequel we'll be getting. We got screwed on Destiny 2.