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« on: March 14, 2013, 10:48:02 PM »

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smartphones are eating away at their handheld sales.
Umm....no they're not. Considering the 3DS is outselling the DS(which is the best selling console of all time) I find that to be untrue Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: March 14, 2013, 10:50:30 PM »

Percentage-wise, smartphones have well overtaken their share of the market from Nintendo.
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« Reply #2 on: March 14, 2013, 10:59:15 PM »

Percentage-wise, smartphones have well overtaken their share of the market from Nintendo.
My point is that sales don't reflect that at all. You can't even compare the two. You can't have the same gaming experience that you would on a Vita/3DS and transfer that to a smartphone. Nothing will change there. A touch screen can't compare to actual analog/buttons. The smartphones number 1 audience is people who are just looking for a quick distraction, not a good/deep gaming experience.
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« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2013, 11:30:59 AM »

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smartphones are eating away at their handheld sales.
Umm....no they're not. Considering the 3DS is outselling the DS(which is the best selling console of all time) I find that to be untrue Tongue

Hmmm methinks you are not so well versed on the subject

"Rather than the classic stoic Japanese executive, the man has been unusually honest and contemplative about his company’s recent decisions. He admitted that 3D is not an audience lure, that it was a mistake to not embrace digital distribution, and he’s adamantly defended some of Nintendo’s unusual hardware design decisions. Iwata was clearly humbled by the failure of the 3DS in 2011—a 50 percent pay cut will do that—and his direction of the company since reflects lessons learned."
http://www.digitaltrends....lled-handheld-gaming-yet/

As for the DS being the best selling handheld of all time.
I owned 2. My cousin owned 2, his sister owned 4, my grandmother owned 3, when i was in college i knew a group of ~30 kids who all owned 2-3.(In almost every instance it was to get a new model or because the old one had broken.)

Primarily the people i have listed were not buying many releases and they certainly were not buying games that were a "good/deep gaming experience."

Funny that you are defending this so much when years ago you were bragging about how many millions of units blackberry had sold (since you loved yours so much) and how it was going to replace handheld gaming. Unfortunately almost all of your posts were deleted so i can't quote it.

Meanwhile over at Apple
"One Apple product, something that didn’t exist five years ago, has higher sales than everything Microsoft has to offer. More than Windows, Office, Xbox, Bing, Windows Phone, and every other product that Microsoft has created since 1975. In the quarter ended March 31, 2012, iPhone had sales of $22.7 billion; Microsoft Corporation, $17.4 billion."
http://www.forbes.com/sit...re-than-all-of-microsoft/


"Apple's Q4 2012 earnings are out, and the data provided gives us an insight into how well the company performed over the last quarter relative to historical data.

Let's start with Apple's flagship product, the iPhone.

The quarter only covers nine days of the iPhone 5 launch, so this is not the favored quarter to expect stratospheric sales. Nevertheless, Apple sold 26.9 million units, making it the iPhone's third best quarter ever (behind the first two quarters of 2012), and up 58 percent on the same quarter a year ago."
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« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 11:37:34 AM »

Percentage-wise, smartphones have well overtaken their share of the market from Nintendo.

People buy smartphones for more than gaming, most don't game on it at all or have free games. The only people buying 3DS' are those wanting to game. The two hardly overlap at all and its all wishful analyst and marketing drivel.
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« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2013, 11:48:57 AM »

http://finance.yahoo.com/...ale=off;source=undefined;

So if Nintendo still has the top selling handheld of OMG EVAR, smartphones are not hurting their sales, WiiU and Wii did not hurt their sales and they controlled the bulk of the market vs PS3 and Xbox 360 why has their stock gone into the crapper for the last 5 years with seemingly no end in site?
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« Reply #6 on: March 15, 2013, 12:14:47 PM »

http://finance.yahoo.com/...ale=off;source=undefined;

So if Nintendo still has the top selling handheld of OMG EVAR, smartphones are not hurting their sales, WiiU and Wii did not hurt their sales and they controlled the bulk of the market vs PS3 and Xbox 360 why has their stock gone into the crapper for the last 5 years with seemingly no end in site?
Nintendo had a very nice stock jump last week. While the Wii U is currently not making them any money at all, the 3DS continues to sell very, very well and continues to pump software sales for them. So, I think it is you who is not well versed in the subject, there is no arguing the facts. The mobile market is not affecting the handheld market at all...
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« Reply #7 on: March 15, 2013, 12:49:18 PM »

Nintendo sees a incline leading up to a 3DS press release Oct 5 2012.

Stocks peak 17.63 that day. Decline there after.

Nintendo sees an incline leading up to the Wii U North American release. Stocks peak 16.51

ZombiU bundle announced Nintendo is down to 11.69

Luigi is announced as Nintendos focus for this year. Nintendo stays in a 3day lull at a rock bottom 11.39

March 7th Nintendo announces digitally distributed content stocks continue modest rise to 12.71

Bounce up and down 50 cents for the last few days. Pickachu #DS XL announcement left them down 50cents from the day before at 13.69


So no matter how you slice it.
Their stock is down ~3$s since the WiiU system release date and has been on a pretty massive downtrend for the last 5 years since the initial WOW factor of the DS and Wii have worn off and literally every person you know has one regardless of age, race, or financial status bought one.
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« Reply #8 on: March 15, 2013, 01:10:03 PM »

What I think of when I see threads like this:

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« Reply #9 on: March 15, 2013, 01:13:16 PM »

What I think of when I see threads like this:

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i thought the same thing Lol, love that picture
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« Reply #10 on: March 15, 2013, 02:46:15 PM »

The mobile market is not affecting the handheld market at all...

I dont look at sales numbers or any other BS that you guys I talking about. What I see when I am out is kids are on smart phones and i-Pads no DS/3DS/Vita. So I would say that phones are hurting the handheld market.
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« Reply #11 on: March 15, 2013, 04:23:32 PM »

The mobile market is not affecting the handheld market at all...

I dont look at sales numbers or any other BS that you guys I talking about. What I see when I am out is kids are on smart phones and i-Pads no DS/3DS/Vita. So I would say that phones are hurting the handheld market.
But that's not to say they don't already own a Vita/3DS at home and just didn't bring it with them. Let's face it, you bring your cell phone everywhere you go. I own an Android phone and I bring it with me when I go out, that doesn't mean I play a whole lot on it. I have downloaded about 6 or 8 games from the app store, mostly Angry Birds/Fruit Ninja etc. I kill time with them when I am out, 5 mins here, 10 mins there. And then I go home and play my consoles/handhelds. I just don't see why the phone market is a threat to the handheld market, phones aren't capable of running the games that handhelds are. And oddly enough there is Gunman Clive that had good sales on both Android/iOS and then it came to the 3DS eShop, and the 3DS eShop version was the best selling version to date. I see both markets existing alongside each other. But the differences between them are night and day, the phones can't do what the handhelds can, and the handhelds have no features like a phone has.
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« Reply #12 on: March 15, 2013, 04:32:08 PM »

The mobile market is not affecting the handheld market at all...

I dont look at sales numbers or any other BS that you guys I talking about. What I see when I am out is kids are on smart phones and i-Pads no DS/3DS/Vita. So I would say that phones are hurting the handheld market.

Even before smartphones were a thing and the GBA ruled the day I almost never saw anybody out in public with one in my area, but just asking somebody if they had one ended up with over half of them saying they did. Link has a pretty big point. Not everybody wants to take a handheld and a pocket full of games out in public, they take up too much space despite their 'handheld' classification.
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« Reply #13 on: March 15, 2013, 04:41:42 PM »

Care to explain the growth in the gaming section for mobile vs. the slowdown in growth for handhelds, and the inexplicably slow adoption of handhelds until they drop below mobile device prices?
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« Reply #14 on: March 15, 2013, 06:58:29 PM »

And the insane increase in "casual" gaming sales in general?
Meanwhile "real" gaming companies are going out of business left and right and major franchises can't save sinking ships.
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