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« on: May 16, 2018, 07:09:22 PM »

(This was originally a Reddit thread, but I wanted to share it with more people. The price data is a few months out of date now, but things won't have changed much. It's also only generation 5-8, for reasons outlined below.)

People often say that Nintendo games are more expensive, or even that they never go down in price. Sometimes people clarify that they only mean first party titles. As someone interested in collecting I've been curious about this for some time, so I decided to look into the average price of games on different platforms. I entered the prices of 50 games in loose, complete in box (CIB), and new condition for 19 systems, generations 5 through 8.

Chart and bar graph of the results: https://imgur.com/a/M8ujD

Since I grouped by company, here are the generations for reference:

5th: N64/Playstation/Saturn

6th: Gamecube/Gameboy Advance/Playstation 2/Dreamcast/Xbox

7th: Wii/DS/Playstation 3/Playstation Portable/Xbox 360

8th: Wii U/Switch(I guess)/3DS/Playstation 4/Vita/Xbox One

Some notes and takeaways:

None of Switch's games are even a year old yet, while most of XBone's and PS4's are, which is part of why its games are so expensive. I also had to include almost every physical release on the Switch, so there is some obscure stuff there.

Nintendo games are indeed more expensive on average, although I expect the gap to be smaller when the Switch is as old as the PS4, and 3DS is basically tied with the Vita.

One to two generations old seems to be the sweet spot for cheap games.

The Xbox 360 has the cheapest games on average, but Xbox, PS2, and PS3 are pretty close.

I thought first party games would be consistently more expensive than third across the board, but it was only true for Nintendo games (sans DS) and Saturn.

The Gamecube had the largest difference between first and third party prices.

Some systems had many more first party titles among the games I used than others (N64, Wii, DS), so the third party prices could be fairly different if more games were included.

New prices don't become too crazy until 3 generations back.

Panzer Dragoon Saga was the most expensive game included - $510.1 CIB, while Madden NFL 2002 for PS2 and World Series Baseball on Xbox were the cheapest CIB at $2.78

2,850 prices were used in total for this data.

Methodology

It's difficult to know what a good representative sample is, but I wanted to focus on games people are likely to want to buy, and cut out shovelware. First I looked for a wikipedia page like https://en.wikipedia.org/...PlayStation_4_video_games

and added the 15 best-selling. Then, I went to metacritic and added the 15 highest highest rated games that didn't include anything I'd already added. I filled out the rest by going back and forth between these lists. For systems without a nice wikipedia list, or not featured on metacritic I googled for best of lists.

I only included games released in the U.S. with a physical release. Why only physical? When people discuss these game prices it's usually in the context of the second-hand collecting market. Digital stores price games based on very different criteria, and there's less complete data available. This means no DLC, or digital-only, and few indie games were included.

Only the most basic edition of a game was included - no collector's edition, no Nintendo Selects or Greatest Hits, no plastic instrument bundles.

This method includes a lot of yearly sports titles, which possibly shouldn't count. The original Xbox's games are especially sports-laden. I'm not very familiar with these games, but someone who loves sports games, and is buying older games might pick up the ones with the specific mix of mechanics they like, right? Or maybe the ones with team rosters they enjoy. Regardless, I didn't want to pick and choose which sports titles would count, so I included whatever came up. These sports games are a bit cheaper than other genres (it's hard to quantify how much cheaper), somewhat dragging down the average price of systems with many of them.

I considered first party to be games published by Nintendo, Sony, Sega, or Microsoft. I originally was considering only games developed by those companies, but things get complicated and subjective quickly that way.

I stopped at generation 5 because metacritic does not go back further, and sales data can be sketchy before then. There are also some big outliers the further back you go. Several SNES games can cost over $600, if I included any of those the average would be thrown off.

Price data was retrieved from https://www.pricecharting.com/ from late December 2017 to early January 2018. All prices are in US dollars.

If you want to see the whole spreadsheet with the specific games, here you go: https://docs.google.com/s...megrHfp8/edit?usp=sharing

It's ugly and I didn't care about writing the complete names or fixing typos. Scroll down if you want to play with the bar graph.
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2018, 09:48:02 AM »

Very cool analysis! I enjoyed looking at what you correlated here, and while I'm not an analytics person, the graph you showed does seem to be representative of what I've seen "in the wild" relative to prices. Your conclusion about the Game Cube is spot on, based on everything I've seen.  Nintendo first party titles tend to hold their value fairly well, and in some cases (SSBM, for example), have even shot up to more than original retail. In a game store the other day, I saw that game at $80, and Super Mario Sunshine was holding steady at $50, which is pretty high for a game that many consider to be the black sheep of the 3D Mario games.

It's difficult to know what a good representative sample is, but I wanted to focus on games people are likely to want to buy, and cut out shovelware.

This is an interesting approach, and something that makes some of the numbers even more interesting. There's a TON of shovelware on some of the consoles, so I find it odd that the median price of a 1st party original PlayStation game would be $5+ over that of 3rd party games, if you're weeding out shovelware and stuff like the agetec line. There are a lot of 3rd party RPGs and niche games that are sought after and expensive, so it's odd that the PlayStation's gap is so wide. That same logic applied to the DS makes perfect sense as to why 3rd party is slightly more expensive. It had a huge library full of shovelware, but it also had a large number of niche games and Atlus releases (among others) that didn't sell extraordinarily well, or had smaller print runs, so those are going to be more expensive, compared to 1st party titles that, while they hold their value okay, can't be priced too high because of the sheer number of them in the wild, given the runaway success of the DS. It's odd to see the Xbox 360 come down to just below the original Xbox, but it makes sense in a way - even though it's newer, the 360 sold so well initially that there's a huge proliferation of games for the console, so the sheer number of them in the wild, compared to how similar games would have sold on its predecessor, means that the supply for these things is just that much greater.

Welcome to RF Generation! I would be curious to see further analysis like this, for sure!
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« Reply #2 on: May 23, 2018, 02:15:33 AM »

Very cool project! I'm glad to see that I've been targeting the right systems recently. Over the last couple years I've focused on Wii and 360, with a little of PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube thrown in (among other less targeted systems) under the feeling that those systems seem to be at the sweet spot for prices right now. Of course everything is going up, so there's no reason to wait on other more expensive systems, but I really want to take advantage of the good prices on the cheap ones while I still can...especially PS2, I feel like it has huge potential to go up in price with all the RPGs it has.

Great job!
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« Reply #3 on: May 23, 2018, 08:32:23 AM »

Very cool project! I'm glad to see that I've been targeting the right systems recently. Over the last couple years I've focused on Wii and 360, with a little of PS2, Xbox, and Gamecube thrown in (among other less targeted systems) under the feeling that those systems seem to be at the sweet spot for prices right now. Of course everything is going up, so there's no reason to wait on other more expensive systems, but I really want to take advantage of the good prices on the cheap ones while I still can...especially PS2, I feel like it has huge potential to go up in price with all the RPGs it has.

Great job!

Good observation, and that echoes my thoughts as well. I'm going fairly hard after PS2, Xbox, some Game Cube, and then PS3, Wii and 360 stuff, since it's relatively inexpensive, and you can often find decent games in pawn shops, Goodwill, etc., depending on the area you live.  A lot of the games I'm picking up are collection fillers, and are likely stuff I'll never play, but snapping that stuff up now means that in a few years, when this stuff isn't as plentiful, and the PS2/Xbox,GCN crew gets real nostalgic for these systems, and want to start picking up some games, I will have a few titles that I'd be willing to part with, in order to obtain some of the pricier stuff I might want otherwise.
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