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« Reply #15 on: November 09, 2005, 07:02:09 PM »

Here's an interesting interview with Mr. Thompson from last Feb.  I've bolded some of the more interesting statements.  

CBS: What constitutes violence in video games?

JT: There's no real debate over that. Any M-rated game has violence levels unacceptable and definitionally harmful to anyone under 17. The industry will rue the day it accepted this labeled scheme.

CBS: What percentage of all games made would you say are violent, based upon your previous definition of violence in video games?

JT: This gets to a fundamental lie being propagated by the video game industry.
GTA [Grand Theft Auto series] has sold 30 million units, with San Andreas expected to hit 20 million on its own. It's the #1 seller in the world right now. That fact alone does not square with ISA and ESRB's dodge that "the majority of games are not violent or M-rated." What matters is how many units delivered are violent, and to whom they are being delivered.

CBS: How many hate or violent crimes would you say are linked to or directly related to violence in video games?

JT: I have no earthly idea, and no one can guess at that. I can tell you that some crimes would not occur but for the violent entertainment. For the families of the deceased, that is the only statistic that matters.

CBS: Does age or sex play a factor in violent, aggressive behavior?

JT: Sure, the sex and violence centers of the brain overlay one another, which is why the increasing mix of sex and violence is troubling. Armies have been known to go on rape rampages after battles because the violence stimulates sexual aggression. How lovely that GTA weds sex and violence in the same game. We are training a generation of teens to combine sex with violence, just what America needs.

CBS: Is there a correlation between playing violent video games and acting in a violent manner?

JT: Of course. Every parent who is paying attention knows that it is garbage in, garbage out with kids.

The heads of six major health care organizations testified before Congress that there are "hundreds" of studies that prove the link. All the video game industry has are studies paid for by them, which are geared to find the opposite result. Lawyers call such experts "whores."

CBS: Is gaming escapism?

JT: Yes, just as Ted Bundy escaped into pornography. It is not a release of aggression. It is training for aggression.

CBS:Do you think the interactivity of game violence makes it different than violence on television, which is passive?  

JT: Of course, as you actually grow neural pathways called dendrites that enable you to perform more easily the physical acts of violence. Plus, from a psychological perspective, to act out of virtual violence in a virtual setting is far more damaging than just viewing it. You enter into the violence, you become the protagonist.

CBS: Different mediums, as they've come along, have had their share of controversy. From pulp horror and graphic novels, to movies, music and television; is this part of a cycle?

JT: Yes, it is the last cycle. These are murder simulators. Manhunt has been called the video game equivalent of a snuff film. I am working with an Oakland, CA prosecutor in a murder trial in which the older gang members used GTA 3 to train teens to do carjackings and murders. The Army uses these games to break down the inhibition to kill of new recruits.

Look at the Institute for Creative Technologies created by DOD to create these killing games. Tax dollars paid to the industry to create the games to suppress the inhibition to kill, and then the industry turns around and sells these games to kids. One instance is Pandemic Studio's Full Spectrum Warrior. If it works for soldiers, of course it works for teens. The video game industry has absolutely no rebuttal to that argument. NONE.

CBS: Is the self-imposed rating system for video games enough? Is the ESRB working? What is the relevance of a rating system for video games if the powers that be will black-list certain games because of their graphic content?

JT: No, of course it's not working. Senator Lieberman and Dr. Walsh just had their latest "Video Game Report Card" news conference. Underage kids can buy the most violent games half the time. I just successfully sued Best Buy and compelled them to institute a new nationwide policy. They will now ID anyone appearing to be 21 or younger to make sure no one under 17 buys M-rated games. This is a huge development. You really need to report that. It is an industry first.

CBS:How does free speech factor in?  

JT: There is no right of children to buy adult entertainment. None.

CBS: Are parents paying attention to what their kids play?

JT: Nope.

CBS: Do you think that video games are similar to sports? There are much-touted statistics that link aggression levels to video game playing, but isn't that precisely what happens in any kind of competition?

JT: I'm sorry, but a basketball games goal is to score more points, not maim the other player. That is where sportsmanship comes in. There is no sportsmanship in any GTA game. None.

CBS: According to the Center for Child Death Review, 1,242 kids were murdered with guns and 174 children died from accidental firearm-related injuries in 2000. Aside from stories that get covered in the news [like Columbine], there are few, if any, actual statistics that show how many children's deaths are directly linked to video games. Do the facts speak for themselves? Or is it just that nobody is really keeping tabs?

JT: The federal government found that in the school year 2003, there were 48 school killings. The year before that there were 16, and the year before that 17. Something is going on. I submit that the video game generation is coming of age.

CBS: Where does the accountability lie? Are parents responsible for their children's behavior? Society?

JT: There is plenty of blame to go around. The parents must do a better job, but you know what? When we were on 60 Minutes the Sunday after Columbine (we predicted Columbine on NBC's Today eight days before it happened) with the parents in Paducah, Ed Bradley asked Joe James "Isn't this a parent's responsibility?" Joe said "Ed, I'm trying to figure out what I did wrong. I had my daughter in school and in a pre-school prayer meeting where she was shot and killed. If I hadn't raised her right, she'd be alive today."

You see, the industry is selling these games to kids whose parents are reckless. How is that Joe Jame's fault? We need to punish the industry and the parents who are putting innocent people in harm's way.

You just watch. There is going to be a Columbine-times-10 incident, and everyone will finally get it. Either that, or some video gamer is going to go Columbine at some video game exec's expense or at E3, and then the industry will begin to realize that there is no place to hide, that it has trained a nation of Manchurian Children.

Kids took guns to school for 200 years in this country without turning them on one another. President Clinton understood that if we want to do something about gun violence, we need also to look at the stimuli to use those guns. 3000 gun laws on the books. Not a single law on the books to stop the sale of murder simulators to kids. Idiotic.

Carl Sandberg, Lincoln's great biographer, defined freedom as "moving easy in harness." The selfish, childish video game industry accepts no harness. Their freedom is pure license.

They are about to pay a wicked price, and I aim to make sure they pay it.
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Here's the link:
http://www.cbsnews.com/st...tml?CMP=ILC-SearchStories
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« Reply #16 on: November 09, 2005, 07:04:39 PM »

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CBS: Does age or sex play a factor in violent, aggressive behavior?

JT: Sure, the sex and violence centers of the brain overlay one another, which is why the increasing mix of sex and violence is troubling. Armies have been known to go on rape rampages after battles because the violence stimulates sexual aggression. How lovely that GTA weds sex and violence in the same game. We are training a generation of teens to combine sex with violence, just what America needs.



Ummm i don't think he understood the question. His mind is SOo in the gutter.
Bad JT.
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« Reply #17 on: November 10, 2005, 11:04:54 AM »

I'm getting really tired of hearing him say the word "none".  A word that absolute should be used in moderation.

"Never say never."

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« Reply #18 on: November 10, 2005, 12:49:10 PM »

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I am working with an Oakland, CA prosecutor in a murder trial in which the older gang members used GTA 3 to train teens to do carjackings and murders. The Army uses these games to break down the inhibition to kill of new recruits.


Yup, after playing GTA those teens know just how to steal a car. All you have to do is walk up to it  and press triangle. And shooting someone involves nothing more then a tap of R1 followed by O.
If JT's going to attack a game he should go after America's Army. Which is made by the Army for the Army and the most realistic shooter out there. Besides that, the only gaming I can think of as realistic is aiming a pistol in MGS2 and 3, which isn't very realistic. Realistically folks.
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« Reply #19 on: November 21, 2005, 04:24:30 PM »

http://ps2.ign.com/articles/668/668345p1.html

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Jack Thompson's Alabama License Revoked
Controversial attorney thrown off of GTA lawsuit.
by Wade Steel

November 21, 2005 - Controversial Miami-based attorney Jack Thompson has been removed from a lawsuit filed by the families of two slain police officers and a police dispatcher against Sony, Rockstar Games, and game retailers. Furthermore, the judge in the case revoked Thompson's license to practice law in the state of Alabama citing Thompson's behavior as the cause of the sanction.

In our previous coverage of the trial, we reported that Thompson had voluntarily withdrawn from the case because he felt that the "other side [meaning the trial defendents] wants to make me the issue." However, Judge Moore, the case's presiding jurist, issued a stinging 18 page report in which the judge rejected Thompson's claim of voluntary removal and stated that Thompson was effectively thrown off of the case for actions "before this Court [that] suggest that he is unable to conduct himself in a manner befitting practice in this state." Furthermore, Moore has referred Thompson's conduct to Disciplinary Commission of the Alabama Bar for "appropriate action." Such actions could potentially include complete permanent disbarrment from the practice of law in the state of Alabama.

The removal of Thompson from the case does not necessarily represent the end of the trial as his long-time associate Ray Reiser will assume the role of lead counsel for the case's plaintiffs.

Not one to take such things lying down, Thompson fired back at Judge Moore by claiming the the judge has "has violated... The Alabama Canons of Judicial Ethics by his unfortunate, improper, and prejudicial acts in this case, at the expense of three bereaved Alabama families."

We will continue to keep you informed on the status of this case as developments warrant.


That's a problem solved.
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« Reply #20 on: November 22, 2005, 07:45:38 AM »

Ah hahahaha.  I'm not surprised one bit.  Good riddance.
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« Reply #21 on: November 22, 2005, 08:11:34 AM »

I was quite happy when I read that.
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« Reply #22 on: November 22, 2005, 08:34:06 AM »

Well, Thompson has since filed to overturn the decision.  Check out the news from gamepolitics.com:

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Not only did he file a motion to overturn Judge Moore's action, he indicated that he would be reporting the judge for alleged ethical violations.

In addition, Thompson alluded to a mysterious "fixer." In a letter to the state's Judicial Inquiry Commission, Thompson wrote:

"...We had heard going into this civil case, before it was even filed, that a particular Western Alabama lawyer had to be part of our litigation team or Judge Moore would not give us a fair hearing... This lawyer himself claims, openly, that 'Judge Moore will not allow you to survive summary judgment if I am not on the case.' For too long we have heard swirling around this Judge allegations of improper influence..."

"...This is almost like My Cousin Vinnie, but with the benign Judge in that comedy replaced by the Judge in And Justice For All... Beyond the allegations of others that cases before Judge Moore can be fixed by the lawyer who claims to be able to fix them... "

While Thompson has avoided naming the alleged "fixer," he filed a curiously-worded motion with the Fayette County Court yesterday, asking for its help in obtaining local counsel. The motion contained this sentence:

"Undersigned has received recommendations as to who would be best local Alabama counsel for that purpose, and the name that keeps popping up is Clatus Junkin."

The story is front-page stuff in Alabama this morning. The Tuscaloosa News quotes Junkin as saying, "If he's talking about me, I'm not that dumb. It questions the integrity not of me so much as the judge. I'm not foolish enough to imply that I could [influence Judge Moore]."

Junkin told Tuscaloosa News reporter Robert Dewitt that he had "one five-minute conversation with Thompson to reconcile differences between Thompson and attorneys who at the time represented the family of one of the police officers. He said he talked to Thompson about working with the plaintiffs but would not agree to some of Thompson's conditions, such as giving Thompson complete control of any contact with the news media."
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« Reply #23 on: November 22, 2005, 11:06:35 AM »

Somebody buy the movie rights quick.
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