Add Onlive to the database?

[Tynstar]

There doesn't seem to be much support for the digital marketplace on here.

We have Steam, XBLA, XBLI, PSN and WiiWare. What else do you want?

I would love for some Tablet/Mobile support

Those are not dedicated game systems so no IMO.

[Sirgin]

There doesn't seem to be much support for the digital marketplace on here.

We have Steam, XBLA, XBLI, PSN and WiiWare. What else do you want?

I would love for some Tablet/Mobile support

To be honest, allowing tablet/mobile games opens the game for a million different platforms. I can see why people want the digital games from the console manufacturers in the DB (I wouldn't) because atleast those are well-defined.

There are a million different phones, adding them all would clog up the DB. Having Snake on my Nokia 3410 doesn't really need to be in the DB, imo. You'll say "oh, I only want the iPod added" but before you know it, people will be asking for every phone imaginable. DB accuracy/correctness also comes into question when you start adding platforms that are hard/impossible to verify.

Those are not dedicated game systems so no IMO.

Seconded.

[blcklblskt]

Yes, let us add millions of shovelware apps to the database!

In all seriousness though, tablet/mobile games don't belong on the site.  PSN/Steam/XBLA/WiiWare are all a stretch as it is.

[Tynstar]

Yes, let us add millions of shovelware apps to the database!

In all seriousness though, tablet/mobile games don't belong on the site.  PSN/Steam/XBLA/WiiWare are all a stretch as it is.

I agree

[NES_Rules]

I'm glad to see its still pretty universal that we don't want cell phone games in the DB. I personally don't want them in there, but that's ultimately a decision of the users of the site and we will add them if it ever becomes a large majority of the users that want them added.

[Sirgin]

but that's ultimately a decision of the users of the site and we will add them if it ever becomes a large majority of the users that want them added.

Is that really true? You can always draw a line and say this is as far as it goes.

Some members might perceive a need to catalogue a lot of things they own. That doesn't mean RFG has to cater to every one of those needs.

Doesn't the same reasoning apply to strategy guides and board games? It's nice to consider suggestions for DB scope expansion, but in the interest of the site, it would be wise not to alienate the core users. It wouldn't be a pretty site to see RFG devolve into a jack of all trades, master of none type of DB.

[Shadow Kisuragi]

Ultimately, the users drive the needs of the site. We just facilitate what we can. Most of the staff are of the opinion that we should improve what we have before moving forward, which I'm definitely on board with. However, at the same time, we can't neglect what is coming along in the future. If we were to have a lot more active community like NintendoAge, we could bring more staff on board, which would allow us to do more "interesting" things like Strategy Guide integration, arcade PCBs and possibly even proper PC and non-traditional marketplace systems like iTunes/Google Play (strictly limited to the "Gaming" apps).

We just don't have enough staff members to spread around all of that knowledge to, which would result in Sirgin's concern of declining quality for the site. For now, we'll certainly support what we can, but mobile/tablet is FAR beyond the scope of what we can support, even if we SHOULD be supporting it.

P.S. If someone wants to go about fixing our PC database, feel free - but it's indicative of what would occur with mobile/tablet support.

[Tynstar]

but that's ultimately a decision of the users of the site and we will add them if it ever becomes a large majority of the users that want them added.

Is that really true? You can always draw a line and say this is as far as it goes.

Some members might perceive a need to catalogue a lot of things they own. That doesn't mean RFG has to cater to every one of those needs.

Doesn't the same reasoning apply to strategy guides and board games? It's nice to consider suggestions for DB scope expansion, but in the interest of the site, it would be wise not to alienate the core users. It wouldn't be a pretty site to see RFG devolve into a jack of all trades, master of none type of DB.

I agree with this 100%

[Razor Knuckles]

Although I do have my XBLA and Virtual console games logged into the database I wouldn't shed a tear if they were to be removed.

This website, at least to me is more about collecting. How can you collect digital games? Can you post them on the small scores thread?

If anything I feel like a separate website should be set up just for digital stuff to keep it clean.

We minus well have a database for emulators and ROM's we downloaded at this point if were going down this path.

[NES_Rules]

If you feel that we should submit the games as "Region Free", however, I would need to look into if that's correct or not.

We just got our first submission for a game for OnLive, did you ever find out if the games are Region Free? I tried researching it, but google wants to keep replacing "onlive" with "online" and by the time I took the other consoles out of the search results, I ended up with this thread as a top result.

[Izret101]

LOL

Onlive has around 300 games released for it.
Ouya when it launches is supposed to be compatible with the service also. So if people take interest in Ouya there might be confusion as to what games go where when the time comes.

I can't find anything online that says the games would not be region free.
Since you are basically doing a remote access of a game running on someone elses PC i highly doubt they are running multiple versions of games on various servers.
Region free is the way to go IMO

[NES_Rules]

LOL

Onlive has around 300 games released for it.
Ouya when it launches is supposed to be compatible with the service also. So if people take interest in Ouya there might be confusion as to what games go where when the time comes.

I can't find anything online that says the games would not be region free.
Since you are basically doing a remote access of a game running on someone elses PC i highly doubt they are running multiple versions of games on various servers.
Region free is the way to go IMO

If the Ouya is using OnLive, the games would still be OnLive games. Just like playing Steam games on your PC, doesn't make them PC games in our DB.
I'm assuming they're all region free as well. But I'm thinking some titles may not be available in certain regions, but it'd be the exception rather than the rule, much like Steam.
So unless someone objects, I'll add the one in queue as Region Free and we'll do that for any others that come in.

[Izret101]

Did a bit of reading and it looks like there are some differences between countries
http://en.wikipedia.org/w...ist_of_OnLive_video_games

US/Canada has the most stuff available but parts of Europe are not allowed access to certain things. No reasoning given but it still looks like everything is the same.
Since it is all digital i would assume it is just blocked based on IP or whatever else they can use to determine your location

[Shadow Kisuragi]

Same deal applies with Steam - it's Regionwide unless there's a specific release for it. Steam has a nice appID/GUID system that they use that can identify these, but I'm not sure what OnLive uses for its applications.

[Izret101]

HEY WAIT A MINUTE!
"PlayPack is a monthly subscription service whereby customers have full access to video games for as long as they are offered in the PlayPack. PlayPass is a service whereby customers purchase a pass to play a video game. The pass can be for as long as it is offered on OnLive or, for some video games, three or five days."

It is a goddam rental service. At least with Steam, XBLA, WW, PSN you buy a game and "own it".
No OnLive "software" in the DB.