Sachen NES

[philosophyst]

Hello all!  I have a question about games made by the "Sachen" company.  What are these games usually considered in the NES collecting community?  I have two of them, a BINGO 75 and then a "4-IN-1" which has four different, uh, nudie type games on it. (Bingo 75, Lucky 777, Honey Peach, Chess Academy).  The Bingo 75 by itself, I do see from time to time on ebay but I have never seen another 4-in-1 Sachen cart.  

Would these usually be put in the same category as the pirate multi-carts (which I also have two of) or something else?  Whatever the case, the Sachen games are a nice addition to my NES collection, I just don't know much about their history.

BTW, if you haven't played Honey Peach before and get the chance, it's a pretty neat little game.  Like strip Rock, Paper, Scissors.  

[Tynstar]

I would put them in the pirate category. I scanned a few of the Sachen game for this site but have not up loaded them yet because we dont have a section for them.

Oh yeah welcome to the forums. Go introduce yourself here.

http://www.rfgeneration.c...on=display;num=1086703181

[captain_nintendo]

Yep , tynstar scanned my 2 Sachen games There is a guy on DP and he sellls on ebay called nesgod and he knows alot about them. I personally dont know too much about them.

By the , are you the same guy who I was talking to over at dp this morning ?  

[Sauza12]

Considering that they were coded for NTSC sets and we don't have the rampant pirate scene that they have in Asia, I think that these were initially produced to be sold in the US.  I've had a couple of theories aboiut these, and the one that makes the most sense to me is that Sachen was going to try a strategy similar to what Zellers did for the Atari 2600.  

The only problem was that Nintendo was a lot more sue happy than Atari ever was and that scared them off a little bit.  I think from that point on, the companies product was bought by mom and pop game stores that heard about them through word of mouth.

Mind you I don't have any evidence to back up my theory, but it seems to make sense to me.

[philosophyst]

By the , are you the same guy who I was talking to over at dp this morning ?  

It's me.  Thanks for the link by the way, the site is nice and I am starting to add to the "My Collection".  That will help out for trades and such....and to keep track myself.  I still have to get my NES and Atari games in there so I'm a little ways off yet.

[Kamino]

I consider the sachens to be shady pirate carts. AFAIK, they were never sold in USA stores anywhere, but imported well after the demise of the system - a nice oddity to have on your shelf, but considering how shitty most of the sachen titles are...yeah, I don't count em.

[philosophyst]

a nice oddity to have on your shelf, but considering how shitty most of the sachen titles are...yeah, I don't count em.

That's right!  I totally forgot that they made other games besides the "Adult" titles.  

[thx1138]

Considering that they were coded for NTSC sets and we don't have the rampant pirate scene that they have in Asia,

I had a while a ago, 75 KILOS of pirated Famicom games.

[den68]

is Sachen really considered pirate? wouldn't they just be considered another unliscensed company like Color Dreams or Camerica?

I know Sachen is Taiwan based, manufactured all their own carts and sold them primarily in Europe. They also sold a few of their games to other unliscensed companies like AVE and HES.

[Tynstar]

One of the games I scanned was called Thunder Blaster Man or something like that and it was a rip off of Mega Man so I would call it a pirate.

[philosophyst]

Are the adult titles like Honey Peach and Bingo 75 originals?  What I mean is, are they just a hack of something else that I don't know of or did Sachen actually program these?

[Izret101]

is Sachen really considered pirate? wouldn't they just be considered another unliscensed company like Color Dreams or Camerica?quote]

I would put Sachen in this category. Are those games even in the database?
I don't remember seeing any of them.

[Kamino]

is Sachen really considered pirate? wouldn't they just be considered another unliscensed company like Color Dreams or Camerica?quote]

I would put Sachen in this category. Are those games even in the database?
I don't remember seeing any of them.

1) Wtf, that quote code is all messed.
2) They are in dp's newest database.
Also: Re: Piracy: IIRC, sachen had VERY few original games. 9/10 of their output was a hack.

[den68]

I'm not familiar with Sachen's games. I'd say if they are hacks that would qualify them as pirates and shouldn't be included in a database. the originals should qualify, or should they be left out all together since a majority of their games are hacks?

[Arrrhalomynn]

They're games people can own. I do think we should add them somehow.  Maybe a special 'hack' category besides the region categories.