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« on: June 29, 2020, 08:27:09 PM »

Collectorcast Episode 53: We choose to debate difficulty not because it is easy, but because it is hard

Our first gaming debate on the topic "All games should have difficulty settings."

It's a debate! Kelsy and Bil face off to the issue of difficulty settings in games. Who wins? You decide!

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Steven Davis - Twitter = @TheDisposedHero, Youtube = DisposedHeroVGM

Lego Batmobile: https://www.lego.com/en-c...vD_BwE:G:s&s_kwcid=AL!790!3!398862373662!e!!g!!lego%20batmobile&Buffer&cmp=KAC-INI-GOOGUS-GO-CA-EN-PS-BUY-SHOP-DC_Super_Heroes-BP-EX-RN-Batmobile

Destiny 2: https://www.bungie.net/7/...QAvD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

GTA V: https://www.rockstargames...options=&locale=en_us

Outer Wilds: https://www.mobiusdigital...ames.com/outer-wilds.html

Star Wars Squadrons: https://www.ea.com/games/starwars/squadrons

Metroid Prime 4: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metroid_Prime_4

Dragon Warrior III: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Quest_III

The Goonies II: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Goonies_II

Tecmo Baseball: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tecmo_Baseball

Where in Time is Carmen Sandiego?: https://en.wikipedia.org/...n_Sandiego%3F_(video_game)

Baseball Simulator 1.000: https://en.wikipedia.org/.../Baseball_Simulator_1.000

Pokemon Smile: https://smile.pokemon.com/en-us/

John Madden DUO: https://www.giantbomb.com...20TurboGrafx%20controller.

Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective Vol.2: https://en.wikipedia.org/...sulting_Detective_Vol._II

Camp California: https://www.giantbomb.com...mp-california/3030-37853/

Samurai Shodown Collection: https://www.snk-corp.co.jp/us/games/ssngc/

Zaxxon: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zaxxon

Bloodstained Curse of the Moon 2: http://curseofthemoon.com/en/2/

Imagine That!: https://www.amazon.ca/Ima...uters-ebook/dp/B0846535TR

Earthbound: https://earthbound.fandom.com/wiki/Main_Page

UN Squadron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.N._Squadron

Super Mario RPG: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_RPG

Final Fantasy IX: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_IX

Final Fantasy XII: https://finalfantasy.fand...om/wiki/Final_Fantasy_XII

Dark Souls Series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Souls_(series)

Mega Man Series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Man

Super Mario Series: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario

Crash Bandicoot: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crash_Bandicoot

From Software: https://www.fromsoftware.jp/ww/

Konami Code: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Konami_Code

Resident Evil 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resident_Evil_2

Cuphead: https://cuphead.fandom.co.../wiki/Cuphead_(video_game)

Metal Gear Solid: https://metalgear.fandom.com/wiki/Metal_Gear_Wiki

Rockband: https://en.wikipedia.org/...iki/Rock_Band_(video_game)

Rush 2012:

Nickleback Burn it to the Ground:

Bloodborne: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloodborne

Minecraft: https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Minecraft_Wiki

Kojima: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hideo_Kojima

LEGO Star Wars: https://en.wikipedia.org/...Star_Wars:_The_Video_Game

Super Mario Bros: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Bros.

Duck Hunt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duck_Hunt

Gone Home: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gone_Home

Walking Dead: https://en.wikipedia.org/..._Walking_Dead_(video_game)

What Remains of Edith Finch: https://en.wikipedia.org/...at_Remains_of_Edith_Finch

Back to the Future: https://en.wikipedia.org/...k_to_the_Future:_The_Game

Batman: https://en.wikipedia.org/...tman:_The_Telltale_Series

Wolf Among Us: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wolf_Among_Us

Chrono Trigger: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrono_Trigger

Castlevania Symphony of the Night: https://en.wikipedia.org/...ia:_Symphony_of_the_Night

Final Fantasy X: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Final_Fantasy_X

Rogue Legacy: https://rogue-legacy.fand...om/wiki/Rogue_Legacy_Wiki

Super Mario Galaxy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Mario_Galaxy

Portal 2: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portal_2

Street Fighter V: https://streetfighter.com/
Guilty Gear Xrd: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guilty_Gear_Xrd

NHL 94: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NHL_%2794

Call of Duty Warzone: https://www.callofduty.com/ca/en/warzone

PUBG: https://www.pubg.com/en-us/

APEX Legends: https://www.ea.com/games/apex-legends

Overwatch: https://playoverwatch.com/en-us/

Marvel vs Capcom 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/...com_3:_Fate_of_Two_Worlds

Super Meat Boy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Meat_Boy

Mega Man 3: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mega_Man_3

West Wing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_West_Wing
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2020, 08:48:10 AM »

laugh I like the Nickelback jab. laugh
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2020, 09:00:09 AM »

laugh I like the Nickelback jab. laugh

You would! I don't even want your vote now!
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2020, 11:44:26 AM »

laugh I like the Nickelback jab. laugh

You would! I don't even want your vote now!

P.S. I'm probably the only guy here that actually enjoys Nickelback.
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2020, 11:51:29 AM »

laugh I like the Nickelback jab. laugh

You would! I don't even want your vote now!

P.S. I'm probably the only guy here that actually enjoys Nickelback.

Bil likes then too. That's why he keeps bringing them up
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2020, 07:43:42 AM »

Really enjoyed the show, guys! Looking forward to more debates like this! 

I voted for Kelsey because I came in agreeing with his position and my mind was not changed by Bil's arguments. It seemed like on Bil's side he was bringing up examples that showed that the status quo is already conforming to the state he was arguing for.

I am grateful that you both set aside accessibility as completely different issue from difficulty at the start of the discussion, because I see difficulty and accessibility get conflated with each other A LOT.

For me the linchpin of Kelsy's argument was something he stated a few times: "Not every game is for every person." Frankly, this can be a hard pill to swallow but it is extremely important if you like variety and choice in games. Rather than wishing Bloodborne had an easy mode because I tend to enjoy easy games, I'm grateful that those who take pride in joining the 14% can do so, while I can make the choice to avoid the franchise entirely. There are many easy games out there, and in fact I think the argument can be made that games have trended easier over the past decade or so (which is part of why Souls-Bournes and their ilk are so special to the thrill-seekers out there).

You both did a great job, and this was actually one of your best episodes ever. Looking forward to more of this type of content.     
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2020, 07:50:55 AM »

Thanks so much for the feedback Shawn! Bil and I were both pretty nervous about this one (Chris was unfazed!). We would like to do more shows like this, but they are much more work than a normal show so we need to space them out a bit. Really appreciate the thoughtful comment.
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« Reply #7 on: July 30, 2020, 11:03:46 AM »

I tend to agree with your position, Kelsey, but I felt like Bil had the stronger overall arguments, so I voted that way. It was a really good discussion, though, with great points made for either position, and I think more episodes like this would be awesome.
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« Reply #8 on: July 30, 2020, 09:58:38 PM »

I tend to agree with your position, Kelsey, but I felt like Bil had the stronger overall arguments, so I voted that way. It was a really good discussion, though, with great points made for either position, and I think more episodes like this would be awesome.

Thanks for the feedback! I look forward to trying again later. Any particular arguments I had you felt fell flat or things you think I would have addressed?
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« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2020, 07:35:56 AM »

There's now topic for the current podcast so I guess I'll address it here:  What about the system no one is talking about?  The Intellivison Amico?!  This is actually the system I'm fired up about.
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« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2020, 08:53:03 AM »

There's now topic for the current podcast so I guess I'll address it here:  What about the system no one is talking about?  The Intellivison Amico?!  This is actually the system I'm fired up about.

I was really into the original concept, bit as it became a digital only platform I lost all interest. Far more excited to the Polymega and Analogue Pocket.
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« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2020, 01:45:40 PM »

There's now topic for the current podcast so I guess I'll address it here:  What about the system no one is talking about?  The Intellivison Amico?!  This is actually the system I'm fired up about.

I was really into the original concept, bit as it became a digital only platform I lost all interest. Far more excited to the Polymega and Analogue Pocket.

That's my reason why I haven't pre-ordered one yet, just one tiny blurb on physical releases saying they will cost more then $10 and be like collector editions.  Nothing on the look of the physical media, which games, box art, nothing.  August 4th is an Amico conference.  They need to show some physical details or I'm out.  I will NOT get a mostly digital or digital only system.
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