Nintendo Wii Discussion

[AndyC]

What Alabama said about the Gamecube and Dramcast is true. Retailers such as Game and Gamestation never pushed them. If you went into the shop there would be playable hubs for Playstation and latterly X-box, but not the others. Their games would be kept in a corner at the back of the store with a little poxy stand. It was like in video stores when the porn is kept in a corner at the back, people will slip by and take a curious peak but don't want to face the embarrassment of picking a case up or even worse going to the counter to pay for it.

T.V. advertising was also poor for both these consoles, are remember the dreamcast adverts being particularly shit and Game cube was only advertised at the start.
D.S. will undoubtedly do a lot better as they seem to sponsor every program on telly.

[UNFORGIVINGPAIN]

NES   starting at   $5
SNES starting at   $8
N64  starting at  $10

WTF? what happen to $1 and $2 games?

[Tynstar]

ouch

[Tan]

WTF? what happen to $1 and $2 games?

probably the same thing that happened to getting the classic controller in the box

[The Metamorphosing Leon]

no they weren't pushed ,you couldn't move here for seeing PSX and PS2 shit all over the place when they came out and you know its going to be the same for the PS3, its no wonder the local scum only buy that as thats all they know some dumb bastards now even think they are all called Playstations.







P.S. Playstation is a shit and gay word

Well for a long time everyones mom called anything video game related a Nintendo because it was the big thing that all the non-hardcore gamer "scum" owned.

Well now everyone has a Playstation, the tables have turned.

Sony currently gets more space because it has more games and still sells consoles.

P.S. Wii, nuff said.

What Alabama said about the Gamecube and Dramcast is true. Retailers such as Game and Gamestation never pushed them. If you went into the shop there would be playable hubs for Playstation and latterly X-box, but not the others. Their games would be kept in a corner at the back of the store with a little poxy stand. It was like in video stores when the porn is kept in a corner at the back, people will slip by and take a curious peak but don't want to face the embarrassment of picking a case up or even worse going to the counter to pay for it.

T.V. advertising was also poor for both these consoles, are remember the dreamcast adverts being particularly shit and Game cube was only advertised at the start.
D.S. will undoubtedly do a lot better as they seem to sponsor every program on telly.

It's not about the stores, other than they put what sells in front, as far as the displays and stuff goes it's about the company's $$. If you've got the $$ to start out with then you can go nuts advertising.

[chrisbid]

companies pay for shelving space in stores, nintendo did not put much money in marketing in europe (not just commercials, but marketing on the whole) and got the less desirable shelf space

[shaggy]

On another note I think the video was pretty nice.

[AndyC]

Come on, walking into a game store is just likely walking into one big advert. You have big placards depicting the big new releases at the front doors, you have the hubs with the new big games, by the front doors. Even the make-believe charts they produce are just a con to get the casual gamer or even worse, the guilable parent to buy what they want you to buy.

On the subject of TV advertising over here actual games systems being pushed seems a rare occurence with the adverts being aimed more at specific games, these usually being established series or big budget titles. Public opinion is always going to favour the way they are directed by the media in whichever way it is portayed. 

[The Metamorphosing Leon]

Well what I'm trying to say is that there isn't some global conspiracy trying to push Sony or Microsoft products. It all boils down to money talks, nothing walks.

[TraderJake]

Reggie is my hero

We're reaching out to every publisher, frankly every day. I'll be spending some time later today with the folks over at Take Two to see what type of support they can give our console ... the fact is there will be M-rated content on the Wii console. EA has already announced that they're bringing The Godfather to our console. And we want every single best-selling game to be available on Wii. Whatever that content is.

[Alabama-Shrimp]

Well what I'm trying to say is that there isn't some global conspiracy trying to push Sony or Microsoft products. It all boils down to money talks, nothing walks.

No one said it was a conspiracy, and as far as i know the game company's dont pay for shelf space so its all down to the shop.

As for the "scum" comment that was me being stupid but what i mean really is the masses that buy what are essentially badly made games/cheap games in there millions meaning that the new innovative and well made games/systems get ignored and pushed out in favorer of yet more crap like the sports games "updated" year on year.

[The Metamorphosing Leon]

I knew what you meant about "scum" and I, for the most part, agree with you in the fact that there is a large majority of people out there who are uneducated about gaming but still want to game and so buy whatever TV, or me , tell them too.

I just wouldn't call them scum is all, because they'll find you, and chase you, and catch you, and lynch you.

And I don't think companies pay for shelf space, they just pay for displays. But whatever system, or game, is selling the best is going to have the most shelf space, you'd be an idiot as a retailer not to have an entire wall dedicated to Madden 2007 and instead have it covered with some weird Japanese game that, no matter how good it may be, no non-gamer gamer has ever heard of. Sony has a million billion games and have sold a million billion Playstations so they've got the most shelf space.

[AndyC]

you'd be an idiot as a retailer not to have an entire wall dedicated to Madden 2007

You'd be an idiot if you did over here. Substitute Madden for FIFA 07 or Pro Evolution 6.

[The Metamorphosing Leon]

Ah, yes. I forgot about that strange football you have over there.

[AndyC]

Yes, the one were you use your feet.